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2017-03-04 06:00 by Karl Denninger
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The byline on this article is misleading -- probably because of where it's published.

Salim Yusuf says new evidence fails to support many major diet recommendations.

There is no such "new evidence."

Yusuf presented evidence that many of the most significant and impactful nutrition recommendations regarding dietary fats, salt, carbohydrates, and even vegetables are not supported by evidence.

There was never evidence to support those "recommendations"; there was industry gaming, there was outright fraud (the "7 nations study") and there was and still is lobbying by various organizations.

The results from PURE will likely add fuel to the ongoing fiery debate over carbohydrates and fats. Yusuf displayed data showing that the incidence of cardiovascular disease in the PURE population increases as carbohydrate intake (as a percentage of total calories) rises.

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"We actually found that increasing fats was protective," he said. Low consumption of total fat was associated with increased risk.

In other words exactly backward from what has been promoted by your doctor.

These "guidelines" and "recommendations" have killed millions of Americans.  They have led to more than half of all adults being overweight or obese.  They have caused millions of cases of Type II diabetes and uncountable human suffering.

Do not believe for a second that any of this is or ever has been a "mistake." These are alleged experts; doctors and nutritionists.  How do we know they're full of crap -- either on purpose or via gross negligence? Basic physiology tells us how carbohydrates are processed in the human body.  Learning the basic physiology of humans is part of becoming a doctor or nutritionist and it's not an optional part either. In short these are people who claim to be experts, who as part of their "degrees" must, by definition, learn the basic facts of physiology and yet they then go on to set recommendations that make utterly no sense unless they are intentionally ignoring what they learned.

These people are directly responsible for roughly $400 billion a year in federal spending and countless more through private health plans, virtually all of which can not only be avoided in the future but stopped right now.

There has not been one bit of accountability applied to any of them.

The "recommendations" did not come about as a result of honest mistake they were made on the basis of economic desire by the lobbying parties and require, in order to be made, intentional denial of basic physiological facts. These "recommendations" have in turn inured to the benefit of physicians, drug companies and hospitals who have made trillions of dollars off the disease, suffering and death in the population following those recommendations cause.

These **********s are just like a "fire department" full of firemen who commit mass-arson and then demand huge amounts of money to put out the fires they set, refusing to pay the bill to restore or replace the smoldering ruins they created, and they manage to dodge prosecution for killing the people who die in said fires, all by claiming to be those who do good for society.

Not only should all of the wealth these individuals and corporations stole via this fraud be confiscated every one of those individuals who has been involved in or profited from this scam need to be indicted, tried and sentenced for each human case of disease or death they caused -- and since mass-homicide is often a death penalty offense, it should be considered.

I argue we ought to being back the gallows and carry out those sentences in public.

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Flappingeagle
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A healthy, marathon running friend of mine makes fun of my new HFLC diet. She says "its like putting a clothespin on your arteries".

She just got a friendly I.told.you.so. email with links! :)

This put a smile on my face this Saturday morning.

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they were made on the basis of economic desire by the lobbying parties and have inured to the benefit of physicians, drug companies and hospitals who have made trillions of dollars off the disease, suffering and death in the population they caused.
DING DING DING!

Just how many people are employed (directly or indirectly) as a result of mental/physical health issues in the population? And what are the sources of those issues?

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I don't want to spam the message board but it is so nice to go through the day feeling full and satisfied without having to be full of food. Its like the best of both worlds.

Here's one thing I noticed that might be of interest to you guys who are past 40, and 50 especially. I noticed it the 3rd day in, I can pee like I'm 15 again! I didn't have much trouble before but now, you don't want to get into a p****** contest with me!

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Flap,
I lost over fifty pounds thanks to Karl. I will be seventy in nine days and had noticed the******thing too. If I 'sin', a few days later the stream slows....then a few days later things get back to normal. Not the old normal where you could crack porcelain off the back of the toilet, but the new normal where it's more of a spectator sport, a high speed dribble at least.
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Tickerguy wrote..
These **********s are just like a "fire department" full of firemenwho commit mass-arson and then demand huge amounts of money to put the firesthey set.
Yes. I'm flooded with rage when I consider the size and scope of this fraud and the damage that it's done.

There's a special place in hell waiting for everyone who took part in it too. Will they be held to account here? Doubt it, too much "bad science" out there for them to hide behind and feign innocence. Can a law suit be brought, similar to the big tobacco suits? Maybe, the groups funding the bogus science out there definitely know what they are doing and why they are doing it...

Bottom line for me... if you blindly trust 3rd parties (friends, bloggers, doctors, nutritionalists, "healthy looking" people, etc) for advise with anything, and that includes issues of health/nutrition/lifestyle, you're seriously rolling the dice.

And in the case of nutrition and how it affects health and drives/reverses disease, you must dedicate yourself to doing some intellectual work. The truth is there if you work to find it.. That doesn't mean you take one guys word for it over another. It means asking questions and digging and learning and seeking understanding and thinking and asking more questions..

Yep, might mean reading dozens of books, watching dozens of seminars, reading countless blogs, personal experimentation as you begin to figure things out... But what is your life worth? What is your health worth? What's your families life/health worth?

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I'm sure lots of doctors feel they are on the side of the angels when they promote everything they have been taught in medical school.
Trouble is they are subject to capture just as much as crooked politicians.
They support the consensus or the medical associations will destroy and remove them from practice.
The health 'insurance' companies are now another layer of standard diagnosis / standard treatment enforcement.
History is again no lesson to such people. They forget a whole generation of doctors went to their graves cursing Pasteur as a fraud.
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As a Registered Dietitian (by credential - I left the trade years ago over the fraudulent nature of the field), I say bravo. To reiterate what Karl said, if you want nutrition advice, ask a biochemist, not a dietitian.
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Bagbalm: yes, the medical "thought establishment" is very invested in enforcing compliance among physicians, witness the whole statin debacle. With records now being electronic, it is much easier for the insurance companies to go after physicians who deviate, even with something as simple as not writing a prescription that they are told they should. Recently, though, I am not getting strange looks when I tell medical staff that I am on a very low carb diet. They still do a double take when they realize that I've been NPO for that visit in case they need to do bloodwork and it's 3pm. Granted, 3 years ago I would not have been ok without food that long, but over time my body has healed. My Dad is a physician, and he thinks I'm beyond crazy. He, however, is my best case for why the standard recommendations don't work. He does eat his own cooking, as he follows a punishing exercise routine and then hikes 5 miles almost every day. He eats almost no fat, nothing at all refined, no simple sugars or starches, always home cooked. Whenever I visit I feel like I'm starving. And his type II diabetes is getting worse, along with about 50 lb of extra weight. Seriously, he's made a stupendous effort at outrunning his fork. It just doesn't work that way, but he's not ready to listen to me yet.
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You cannot outrun your fork - - period.

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If I thought that there was premeditated fraud going on I would be all for jail. Unfortunately I think it's mostly just the twin human failings of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias going on. Can you jail folks for being human?

Just think back to some of the things you used to believe. For my part I used to believe that saturated fat was bad, whole wheat was good and anyone who was skeptical of global warming was in the pocket of Big Oil. I'm not proud of it but I understand that I'm capable of belief without evidence and if I am, then why can't others? In fact, it wasn't until the housing meltdown that I truly understood how "the experts" could not just be wrong, but 180 degrees wrong. I was working in residential construction back in the mid 2000's and saw firsthand what was going on and it dawned on me there was no way this was sustainable but there was 99% of the experts and media saying it was. That got me wondering if the experts could be so wrong on this topic why couldn't they be wrong on others. Turns out they are.

I'm reading a book right now called "Tripping Over the Truth - The Metabolic Theory of Cancer" which is about how the experts in cancer research have been chasing their tails for a century by thinking the cause of cancer is genetic. There's very little doubt in my mind that cancer is metabolic in origin and this should have been apparent even back in the 1970's. But instead we've wasted hundreds of billions and people have suffered countless early, painful deaths simply because people are hardwired to ignore evidence that goes against their beliefs.

So I don't believe people should be jailed for being humans but I do believe people really need to understand that it's very easy to fool yourself into going down the wrong track and once you do it's very difficult to change gears.

Excellent book by the way, highly recommended if you want to understand more about cancer:

https://www.amazon.com/Tripping-Truth-Me....
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So I don't believe people should be jailed for being humans but I do believe people really need to understand that it's very easy to fool yourself into going down the wrong track and once you do it's very difficult to change gears.

Here's the problem with that -- physiology.

I didn't go to med school. But every doctor did. And they all learned how carbs are metabolized. They had to, because it's part of that physiology class.

So what happened to that knowledge, which they all learned and that class they all had to pass?

Willful ignorance has a name -- gross negligence. You can, and should, get tagged for it. We do it to people who drive while drunk and kill someone every single day, despite the fact that they didn't MEAN to kill someone. They're still guilty of negligent homicide and they still go to prison.

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Karl wrote..
So what happened to that knowledge, which they all learned and that class they all had to pass?

Willful ignorance has a name -- gross negligence. You can, and should, get tagged for it. We do it to people who drive while drunk and kill someone every single day, despite the fact that they didn't MEAN to kill someone. They're still guilty of negligent homicide and they still go to prison.


I can totally see your point, don't get me wrong. Tossing people in jail when it can be proven they acted negligently and with intent should be pursued. It's just that I think that most medical professionals and researchers believe they're the good guys. And as a good guy with the best of intentions it makes it impossible to convince them they're wrong.

Something else that's stacked against doctors and nutritionists is that if you don't conform to the conventional wisdom you won't pass medical or nutritionist school and it will most definitely be tough to get a job if you do. And then there's the "standards of care" for diseases which force a doctor to follow the prescribed protocol or else they can be stripped of their medical licenses and/or sued. The whole setup of medicine produces doctors who will go along, those that have their own ideas never get to become doctors. This is why I find the whole health care situation rather hilarious - you are forced to pay for coverage that provides advice that if you follow is almost guaranteed to shorten your life. This is why I don't care that much about the healthcare debate - I recognize it to be a pyramid scheme with the goal being a lower quality of life. I've entirely opted out since 2007 and have been better for it.
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Ancel Keys (started the fat = bad nonsense) might be responsible for the most deaths in human history. I've also gone LCHF / Keto in the last 18 months and lost 40 lbs with relative ease. People gave me all sorts of conditions I was bound to die from pretty much every time I get asked about my dietary restrictions. Strange that nobody gives a crap if I eat a whole tray of taco bell, or pizza, but eat a lettuce wrapped burger and cauliflower and they flip out.

I also get called a conspiracy theorist, and paranoid when I say "I don't believe the danger of fat, cholesterol OR SODIUM and I think we're being lied to about a LOT of things starting with diet". Instead of taking the blinders off and looking around (I won't lie, i judge the **** out of people now and EVERYONE IS FAT AS HELL!!!!!!!!!) and seeing what the standard american diet is doing to people. AND they watch TV where every GD commercial is for some new drug to treat something that might not have even existed 10 years ago, it's mind boggling. I really only watch an hour or two of tv a week, when folding laundry, but it's still telling.

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Lunatic: the problem that I see with all the standards is that they reduce medicine to a cookbook, which has 2 problems. One is that if you were able to order your own tests, a reasonably intelligent person could self diagnose and treat most conditions at least somewhat reliably (or at least as much as a clinic could). There's no respect for experience and learning over time in guidelines. Cookbook medicine is very bad at recognizing novel conditions. I do not want to have malaria or dengue here, much better to be treated in Puero RICO, Singapore, or Thailand. Worst of all, though, is when your almighty cookbook is a piece of junk.
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Hstella wrote..
Lunatic: the problem that I see with all the standards is that they reduce medicine to a cookbook, which has 2 problems.


The problem I see is not that they're cookie cutter but that they're flat out wrong. I can't think of a single standard for any chronic disease that gets to the root of the problem. Mainly they go after symptoms and the ones that do shoot for a cause (like statins for heart disease) go after LDL-C, which isn't the actual problem. Healthcare for chronic disease is less than worthless, it's actually detrimental to your health.
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Tripping over the truth is the most important book sense Taubes Good Calories Bad Calories. Talk about connecting the dots! A video of Salim Yusuf talking about the what Karl has written can be found here https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
Video's of Dr. Thomas Seyfried and Dominic D'Agostino are on youtube.. Seyfried is up here in Boston and D'Agostino does work with the navy seals and was working on preventing seizures with rebreathers and the keto diet and connected the dots to cancer. Karl is doing gods work here.

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"The Guilty" have bought their way out of prosecution under FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama.

So you think that Trump will be different?

I don't think so.

That brief period of prosecuting a few bankers after the S&L Crisis was a rare fluke that "The Guilty" will not allow to happen again.

So expect a few minor players to be prosecuted for trading on "Inside Information" or "Lying to the Feds" like Martha Stewart. They will offer them up but let the big players free.

STOP BELIEVING IN CHANGE!
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Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y3K3wkC....]

Hee is the video from Salim Yusuf

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Tickerguy is on a roll here. Great post.

Last weekend while eating at a crowded hotel breakfast buffet. Looking at people and their breakfast choices then connecting their appearance with what was on their tray, with a few exceptions.

What really got to me was thinking back to all the years that I ate either oatmeal or high fiber cereal with 2 slices of whole wheat toast with margarine, skim milk, and orange juice almost every morning for breakfast. And ran 3-5 miles 5 times a week. And played basketball. But for some reason (??) the belly fat was persistent. My fridge was full of fat free and low fat products. Alas I couldn't outrun my fork.

I saw fit looking people at the hotel breakfast choosing oatmeal, whole wheat toast, fruit juice etc.

First of all, I agree that those responsible for perpetuating the food pyramid and all of the other diet misinformation are guilty of a massive crime.

I spent many years eating "healthy" and did untold damage - the whole time ignorantly believing I was doing the best thing for my body eating that way. It's almost like the gov-med-pharm complex told us smoking cigarettes was healthy and encouraged us to do so and most of us believed it -- such is the magnitude of their lie.

And to see people eating that way, TODAY, with all of the information freely available is unbelievable. To this day, I know middle aged fit guys like myself who still cling to the low fat, high carb regimen. They too consider the HFLC diet to be a fad that is causing long term damage to the health of those who practice it.

All of us who know the truth need to keep fighting the good fight.

We lead by example.

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Here's a company looking to capitalize on addressing Type II diabetes - https://www.virtahealth.com/

Judging by the one investor I know who is in the company it's going to have a strong nutritional component to the program.

I think most people need their hands held the way this company aims to. It's only a minority of folks who are independent minded and smart enough to tinker with their nutrition and exercise and then trust the results.
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