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2017-02-07 06:05 by Karl Denninger
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Get up, go in front of your mirror, strip.

What do you see?

A belly?  A fat ass?

Be honest.  There's nobody there but you.  No, all bodies are not beautiful.  You're either somewhat normal for a human, you're thin as a rail or you're a fat ****.

Half of all in America over the age of 18 are the latter, as are the majority of those over 65.

That sucks.

Now go to your medicine cabinet.

What's in there?

Aspirin, mouthwash, an anti-histamine?  Ok.

One, three, a half-dozen prescription drugs?  Not so much.

Read this Ticker again.

Cut the crap.  Trump is not going to address medical monopolies.  Not only has Trump now said that he probably won't do anything until 2018 (which, I remind you, will be right into the maw of the next Congressional election -- in other words nothing will be done) the Republicans have been filing bills that do nothing to address the problems and in at least one case, Rand Paul, both make it much worse and admit that the entire system is riven through with currently-illegal conduct because they propose to make said conduct lawful.

Unless Trump does what he has not promised to do (actually fix health care's unlawful and outrageous pricing mechanisms), and he won't, if you're dependent on the medical system you are ****ed.

Let me define "****ed": Bankrupt, dead or both.

As an aside there are plenty of people who say I cuss too much.  I respond that in a situation like this there are perfectly reasonable uses for the word "****" or, for that matter, any cuss word in the lexicon.  Being rendered broke, dead, or (probably) both due to the outrageous conduct of both a large segment of our economy and intentional refusal to enforce the law at both state and federal levels certainly ought to qualify.

Are there issues you might not be able to control?  Yeah.  Lots of them.   You could have high blood pressure that is not related to being fat.  You could have some genetic disposition to being screwed.  You could have some odd disease that is both genetic-linked and hard to deal with.

But the majority of the population either has medical problems that are related to being fat or will if they don't stop being fat.

It's being fat folks. It's not "healthy but big", it's not "all bodies are beautiful", or anything of the sort.

It's being fat.

I was fat, and getting fatter by the year.

I changed that in 2011.

I am no longer fat.

I am not hungry; I rarely want food before approximately noon.

I do not count calories (a war you cannot win over the long term, given the accuracy you must maintain.)

I am objectively in better shape, in terms of athletic ability, than I was as a teen.

And, it appears, whatever metabolic damage I had accumulated did largely -- and maybe completely -- heal over the last few years.

You can do this too.

You had better in the next few years, and it will take that long to get there, especially on the healing of any accumulated metabolic damage to the best of your body's ability, because the US "health" system is going to blow up -- catastrophically.

If you are dependent on it when it does you will either suffer horribly, die, or (probably) both -- in that order.

This isn't a joke. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not hyperbole.

It's fact, and you can either accept it and deal with it or suffer the consequences.

Look folks, I was severely metabolically compromised.  I know I was.  I didn't have the labs to prove it, but I didn't need them.  Neither do you if you quit lying to yourself.  Have gut?  You're metabolically compromised.  Period.


I often have a fasting blood sugar in the upper 60s or 70s.  My A1c runs around 5.3.  I am not hungry in the morning; I often don't want anything to eat until close to noontime.  I cannot drive my blood sugar, even intentionally as a test, over 110. I have nothing in my medicine cabinet other than some ibuprofin and aspirin -- neither of which I need more than occasionally.  My BMI is 22 -- RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE OF NORMAL.

Honestly?  I'm a bit heavy right now -- ~5lbs or so.  Not a big deal.

How long do you have before it all goes to Hell?  I don't know.

But I do know this -- when it does, and it will, if you're not independent of said medical system you are ****ed.

Don't be, if you can avoid it.

Thus ends the sermon.  Change, or not.  Your choice.  But the time to change is running out -- do it now, in short, or not at all -- and suffer the consequences.

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KD wrote..
whatever metabolic damage I had accumulateddidlargely -- and maybe completely -- heal over the last few years.

I think your mama passed on some kick-ass mitochondria :) That said, the body has a remarkable ability to heal and set things right if it's given a chance and the right things to work with.. The list of things it needs to heal doesn't include sugar, in any form - or man-made fats. And it also doesn't require that we constantly shove something in our pie-holes. Good things happen in the fasted state...

The best way to deal with the inevitable healthcare collapse is to ensure that you won't need them.
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Long time lucker, registered today to add my two cents, prompted by KD, I've lost 50 lbs and feel great. Figured I need to say thanks.
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Healthcare has turned into a metastasized cancer that is eating everything. It is eating education as well. Between healthcare costs, unrealistic pension promises, (and student loans for higher ed), education is in trouble. I don't know what will pop first but something will for sure pop at some point.

We've been in a "recovery" for 7 years now and everything is still strained as hell if not deteriorating. Can you imagine what happens in the next recession?


Here are my predictions for everyone to see:
S&P 500 at 320, DOW at 2200, Gold $300/oz, and Corn $2/bu.
No sign that housing, equities, or farmland are in a bubble- Yellen 11/14/13
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Coming up on one week of zero carbs (except that found in broccoli or cauliflower).

At first I ate so much meat, eggs, and cheese that I put on a couple pounds. Every time I'd crave some carbs I'd grab another bite. It seems that I've climbed over some sort of a hurdle and the cravings have mostly gone away and now I don't find myself grabbing bites to stomp a craving.

It seems that eliminating carbs is going to help me in portion sizing.

Just noted this morning that weight has turned in the other direction and I've lost a pound from where I started.

Sugar testing is cheap (enough) and doesn't need a prescription and it is interesting to tie sugar levels to how one feels.

Thanks for the repost of this thread.

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For those of you with success, what does a typical day of eating look like? I have seen the list from the other Ticker, but just trying to get as wide a field view as possible.

I have improved, but am still struggling and realize I probably can't do this half way.

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Amen! I have fought fat a few times in my 50 years. Every time it required a lot of exercise on a very regular basis to keep the weight off. Especially in the winter. Last year, I cut out the carbs and sugars and I lost more weight than ever, and kept it off all winter. I still exercise but changing your diet is the key to long term success.

As an avid mountain biker, I was a big carb loading guy. I didn't think I would survive riding without my carbs. Total BS. I rode just fine on bacon and eggs! Even did a 50 mile mountain bike ride to celebrate my Bday this year.

Thanks for the encouragement Karl.
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If you can call one week a success: I didn't really plan anything other than to clear the house of carbs and poly unsaturated fats.

I just stocked the fridge with lots of non-carb stuff and admit to a some food wasting as I've over-prepared quantities of things like Broccoli and cheese and a 'meatza'.

After week one I'm finding myself with less hunger urges and it seems I'm able to get by on more proper portions.

Juice has always been my downfall. I dropped orange juice about five years ago when I went on a diet but eventually gained back ten of the thirty pounds I dropped. I considered that pretty good but it isn't good enough.

I found the 100% pomegranate juice a couple years ago and figured since it is so expensive I probably would not drink so much of it - wrong.

My 'cheating' this past week was one day when I was feeling weak and hungry and I bought a single banana - if that's a cheat?

Also to combat the sweet urge I've gone through two packages of sugar free jello. Goal is to cut out artificial sweeteners as well.

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Some of the biggest keys are finding foods you like enough to be willing to eat every day, and finding ways to prepare them that gives them some variety (spices are crucial). I'm not on a ketogenic diet but have stayed fairly low-carb for about a decade, and my big staples are:

eggs (3-5 per day)
frozen broccoli
chicken thighs
sauteed greens

Not saying that you have to eat the same thing every day, but building a set of ingredients that you can always rely on is very helpful.
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Ponzi: Betcha you are already seeing material improvement in those glucose numbers....

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Ahhh ...

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our Light, and not our Darkness, that most frightens us. -- Marianne Williamson
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Tickerguy: yes! And I'm using good numbers to reinforce a lifestyle change.

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I eat a lot of eggs, tuna fish, chicken, wild game meat, beef, pork chops, bacon, sausage. Most pickled peppers have virtually no carbs. Broccoli, cauliflower "mashed potatoes" with butter, lots of cheese, nuts. I am not much of a salad guy, but still eat a few leaves. Squash is good. Try spaghetti squash as spaghetti noodles and add meat sauce.

Currently have almonds, peanuts and cashews on my desk. Nuts are tricky, lots of calories from fat, but low carb.

Lost 40 lbs. in 9 months with very little exercise of any kind, just day to day activity. Do the math, only 2.5 oz. avg. loss a day.

Started "cheating" in November and some pounds and cravings returned. Back on the low-med-high mix and pounds are coming back off. Looking forward to more good results as I become more active with better weather.

When I start salivating over a yeasty dinner roll, I just think "POISON". Seems to help me.

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Just reading last nite that it takes a while for the Keto to kick in and really be effective. What can I expect in weight loss? 5-6 lbs the first week and that's mostly water. Then in a couple weeks drop 1-2 lbs a week?

Or should I expect more? I did this once before and dropped 35 lbs. But I can't remember what the pace was.

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After the water adjustment (which is quite large) it's typically around a pound a week. Note that it's almost impossible, physiologically, to lose more than 3lbs a week of actual mass -- and if you do, you're probably doing yourself a LOT of harm. 2lbs is somewhere around the safe maximum weekly loss.

The reasons for this are somewhat complex but absent intentional (or involuntary!) starvation it's damn hard to wind up in a situation where you will lose at a high enough rate to get in trouble.

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If you are tired of Bacon try some fried Spam.
I wish I could gain weight....I apparently have "the" genes.
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Guys and gals, don't forget one thing about a physique devoid of a fat belly.

Sex. If that doesn't motivate you then....
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For those starting this-- don't give up. Once you break the sugar/carb addiction you won't look back.

At first you are at a loss what to cook, but once you get into the routine of carb replacement you won't look back.

I've dropped 4" from my wasteline-- probably overweight by 5lbs, but don't care. Like Karl, I don't eat breakfast, except for an Americano with a couple tablespoons of heavy cream. I'll eat the cold fried egg I put in my lunch about 11am-- I'm still not hungry, but I've been sipping black coffee all morning so want some food down there so I don't get the trots.

My lunch today will be 3 chicken legs with skin, asparagus and salad from dinner last night. A chunk of cheese and 1/3 cup of cashews. With that I'm good until 7pm.

When I see people shoveling carbs in their pie hole I nearly get ill. Do I 'cheat' sometimes? Sure. Periodically I'll have a couple cookies I baked for the kids. I'll have a slice of pizza and not just eat the toppings. Maybe I'll have a dozen frozen cherries from my tree. I'll have 1/2 bottle of wine for dinner every evening.

Anyway, it isn't a 'fad'. You will lose weight. It will change your life. Sadly, after two years I haven't seen great improvement in my blood numbers. They are better, but I'm still metabolically compromised. I hold a deep resentment for the dietary lies that have wrecked so many lives for so many years.
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Anyway, it isn't a 'fad'. You will lose weight. It will change your life. Sadly, after two years I haven't seen great improvement in my blood numbers. They are better, but I'm still metabolically compromised.

Keep at it. The improvement in those numbers may still come; I've been at it since 2011, and I only recently intentionally-challenged my system with things like a big serving of chocolate to see if my metabolic systems were now ok.

I have no idea what that response looked like in 2013. I will note that the near-complete disappearance of my former allergic reactions to things in my environment (e.g. pollen, etc) took a few years -- not months.

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Corruption and lies - smiley Donald Rump smiley. He's too busy being king of Oompa Loompa land. His goal was to get elected as a prize to himself not to actually help the American people.

I've been following the issue in Romania. The people put the same socialist bastards back in power they had generations ago.

These bastards IMMEDIATELY turned on the people. In the dead of night they passed a bill to essentially decriminalize any offense that only resulted in theft of ~$50K (USA) or less to "free up" space in the prisons. It also essentially decriminalized offenses that were created due to abuse of power in political office.

All of this was done to set their cronies free that had been convicted by the Romanian courts for corruption. Like the thieves they were they did it in the dead of night. The ordinance partly decriminalizes some major corruption offences, such as abuse of office and conflict of interest, and makes denouncements valid only if made within six months after the crime.

There is a reason horse thieves were hung in the old west. If you stole a man's horse you essentially stole his livelihood and thus you sentenced the man to death! Since the thief was willing to commit murder the people during that time had no problems hanging horse thieves. I'd say they were a bit smarter to be more intolerant than the "non-judgemental" spineless wimps we see today. They didn't have to worry about increasing the prison population sizes for the next scam - justice was quick and more indifferent.

How are those that participate in the medical scam any different than horse thieves and thus not deserving of the same treatment!

As far as Romania - does that not sound exactly what Americans have allowed Congress and the President to do for generations with insider trading and conflicts of interest? The global shills are everywhere infecting all governments. Every 4 years US politicians try to play this good cap/bad cop game on us when they are all just simply evil cops. I'm saying eff it. The window for peaceful talk is ending and mathematics is going to permanently shut it closed!

The cherry on the cake is that the Romanian socialists claimed they did it for the good of the Romanian people and 'humanitarian' reasons to comply with demands of the EU ordinances to be included in that union. The ordinance was done to essentially stifle corruption investigations of the party in office. These corrupt politicians aren't going to investigate themselves!

At least the 300K Romanian people got off their asses and said no more! The police were with them - not pawns of the state. The Romanian president was with them and actually out in the crowd! The protests were peaceful except for a few planted agent provocateurs. These agents were fans of one of the sport's team owners that participated in the passing of the ordinance.

It took a week of being ignored but the ordinance was finally repealed. Now the people of Romania are demanding the resignations of those that passed this abomination.

Where is the American outrage over a future denied and life's work stolen?

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I have been healthy/high fat low carb for almost exactly 1 year now thanks to Karl. I am in my mid-40's and was on the path of slow, but steady weight gain of 3-5 pounds a year - was still in pretty good shape, but do the math and that would not be the case by my mid-50's. Now have two buddies also eating this way and they call it the fat-bomb fountain of youth! Eating awesome fats, cheeses, butter, avocados, and throwing in things like broccoli and cauliflower as a substitute for rice and potatoes has them feeling 20 years younger.

Mooreupp asks what we typically eat. Here is what I just emailed another buddy that is going to give the HFLC diet a shot:

Start by eating lots of bacon, eggs, string cheese, salami slices, nuts (but not too much as they also have some carbs). I get a crap ton of healthy fat from my two coffees a day. 1/16th to 1/8th stick of grass-fed butter, scoop of MCT powder, 1/8 cup of heavy whipping cream, unsweetened coconut milk, tablespoon of coconut oil, and 4-5 drops of liquid Stevia to sweeten it. You can get a Wendy's double bacon cheeseburger - just strip off the bun and avoid the ketchup since is probably has sugar in it. I also eat pork rinds and guacamole. If you like cream cheese, eat it or wrap it in a slice of salami or pepperoni. You eventually want to get to the point where you are eating at least 70% healthy fat (no man-made crap), 25% protein, and less than 20-30 total carbs per day (mostly coming from veggies and nuts - I like the very good-fatty macadamia nuts). Starting off, you will probably overdue the protein, but cutting out the carbs is the big deal out of the gate. Consuming too much protein will turn to glucose in the body, but that is a problem to address after getting the carbs cravings cut out. If you have to have a soda, there are 4 diet drinks that don't don't appear to have the artificial sweeteners that spike insulin - they are Diet Dr. Pepper, Diet Coke (not Coke Zero), Diet Mug Rootbeer, and Diet A&W Cream Soda - they all us aspartame as the sweetener - so best to just drink one once and awhile. Also - take in a lot of salt and get a magnesium supplement! When you cut out the carbs, you start dropping water weight like crazy via salt - so up the salt intake to avoid muscle cramps (lack of salt and magnesium will give you headaches and muscle cramps - also get your potassium from green veggies and guacamole/avocados which have twice the potassium of a banana). Finally - get yourself a Pintrest account and then search for "keto" and it will pull up well over 3000 receipts to try (the fathead pizza and "just like the real thing lasagna" are fantastic and my wife and kids don't even know they are low-carb versions of what we used to eat) - but try to avoid the dessert substitutes in the beginning as the goal is to get the brain to quit craving sweets all together - which takes some time.
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First time poster but long time reader. I'm coming up on my 1 year anniversary of my LCHFMP lifestyle and I feel the need to share my results in hopes of inspiring others. I am down 92 pounds in 11 months. I keep a weekly log of my weight loss since starting. I averaged just under 2 pounds loss a week. I have never cheated and have no plans to ever cheat.

A little background. I did do Atkins about 14 years ago for about 6 months and improved my weight and health then too but slowly came off it. The big difference for me back then was getting wrapped up in the fake food low carb products (bars, shakes, low carb pasta etc) instead of having real, wholesome food that you have to cook or prepare yourself. This time around I ate no frankenfood low carb products and cook and prepare my own meals. Cakes, cookies, chips, sodas, fries, pizza etc at parties and social events doesn't even phase me. Initially I was always taking my own food or ate what was there stripped of bad carbs. As of the past few months, friend's and family have now been making some keto dishes alongside the typical standard American diet. Slowly many are coming around from my living proof example. It has opened the door nicely to talk health and of course start opening minds and informing people on the medical, pharmaceutical and government collusion. Prior chats about the subject, people didn't care. Now that I'm down close to a century in weight, my same words seem to have different meaning and people are more receptive and seem more genuinely interested. It's a small, incremental change but a change nonetheless that I am observing in my social circle. Maybe it's too little too late?

My church has now set up monthly meetings for me to lead and openly discuss this lifestyle and the huge benefits. It has inspired many to ask and led to the said meetings. I will of course bring up our current crisis that is heading downhill fast in all regards. I knew LCHFMP works from my prior experience. Thanks Karl for your inspiration to get back to what I knew was right and to stay with it forever. No going back this time and the medical establishment can shove it because I will not be their pawn. My health and well being are in my hands and not some pill pushers.
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Awesome Zk118! In addition to all of the health benefits of LCHFMP, I have also come across quite a few amazing studies on the benefit of kentones in things like cancer treatment, autism, Alzheimer disease, Lyme disease, etc. I just had a conversation with a co-worker in the breakroom who had Type II Diabetes and reversed it after I told him about LCHF about 8 months ago. He has now been diagnosed with prostate cancer, so I just sent him some links showing all of the benefits of LCHF as a supplement to the normal standard of care for cancer treatments. Feel free to include any of this info in your monthly church meetings - it is information that I am now passing along to anyone that is dealing with cancer or has a friend/family member dealing with cancer to let them know that LCHF is having amazing early results as a possible supplement to traditional cancer treatment (but which has been difficult to study since most universities can't get any funding if there is no pharmaceutical drug to be developed as a result).

Adrienne C. Scheck, PhD -- The Ketogenic Diet as an Adjuvant to Standard of Care
Adrienne C. Scheck, PhD, is an Associate Professor at the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix Arizona. She is also an Adjunct Professor in the School of Life Sciences at Arizona State University and an Associate Investigator in the Cancer Biology Program at the Arizona Cancer

Ketogenic Diet, Cancer Metabolism & The Warburg Effect w/ Angela Poff
Research Associate at the University of South Florida, studying non-toxic metabolic-targeted therapies for cancer and neurological diseases

Angela Poff, Ph.D. -- Targeting Cancer Metabolism with Hyperbaric Oxygen

SNR #164: Dominic DAgostino, PhD Press-Pulse Model of Cancer Therapy, Ketones & Metabolic Drugs
Assistant Professor at the College Of Medicine Molecular Pharmacology & Physiology at the University of South Florida

What if you got cancer today? Heres how Tim Ferriss podcast guest, Dom DAgostino, responded:

Keto Human Study -- Effects of Ketogenic Diets in Canine Cancer
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I'm poor ($20k for 2 people poor), but I'm still managing it.

The staples are chicken thighs, cheese, frozen broccoli, eggs, real butter, heavy cream, frozen sausage patties, cheap bacon scraps and some of whatever beef is on sale.
The crappy $1/lb bologna and hot dogs have some carbs in them, but they qualify as instant food. Or can go in an omelet if you can't afford bacon that week.

If the cash flow is a bit better, avocados. I'd happily eat several a day, but at $1.50 each I just can't afford it.

Breakfast is eggs (cooked in bacon grease), cheese, a meat (sausage/bacon/choppeduphotdog), maybe a bit of salsa, and coffee.

Lunch is two bullion cubes and a pat (full tbsp) of butter in a coffee mug of water. If I skipped breakfast, I may grab a hard-boiled egg for later.

Dinner is meat and broccoli.

Snacks are cheese. Or broccoli. Or a hotdog w/mustard (no bun of course).

I skip meals a lot. Just not hungry. Maybe a couple hours later I'll nibble an ounce of cheese instead.

Started at 5'10" and 240lbs. I dropped 20lbs the first 6 weeks. I don't have a scale, so I'm only weighed at checkups. My pants are 2 more belt loops looser in the following 3 months, despite a fair amount of holiday cheating.

You can count calories if you want, or count carbs (under 20g/day net is where you want to be most days), or you can just do it.
I'd suggest keeping a food diary, just to force being honest with yourself.

If you are on the road, get your burger without a bun. If you are eating in the car for time pressure, you'll be tempted to get the bun "just this once". Don't. Just don't even stop there. Hit the convenience store instead and buy a bunch of beef jerky or cheese or something.

Drink more water. Buy some litesalt. It's 50% potassium, and you'll need sodium and potassium both. Salt everything. Tastes funny at first, but you adapt, just like switching to diet soda.

Carb cravings. I'm a nicotine addict. I've "quit smoking" a bunch of times, then switched to a vape a couple years ago. Day3 of no carb. I'm jonesing, for nicotine I thought. Keep turning my vape up higher, and hitting it like mad. A couple hours of this later I get up to go to the restroom, and realize I'm dizzy from all the nicotine like a new smoker.

As I walked through the office I saw a bag of chips on a co-workers desk. OMG! WANT! NOW! STEAL THEM! EAT THEM ALL!

Wait, WTF? That was it the whole time? I was actually having physical and psychological carb withdrawal symptoms. Addiction proven.
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Hey Karl,

I'm not personally dependent on the medical system because I eat healthy and exercise, so I don't foresee a need for medical care for myself.

However, I'm curious how you think it will all play out as far as employers go since many employers pay for medical insurance for their employees and families.

Do you think the insurance companies will increase rates and pass it along to employers? My guess is that my employer would drop insurance for the firm if that was the case.

Or will the medical system collapse even if rates are raised (or maybe because of it)? Hope this makes sense...

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