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 In A World Of Monsters, Hypocrisy Reigns
Tickerguy 203k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2014-03-07 12:05:19

One More Banned wrote..
Am I reading this wrong? If so then why? I think slavery was certainly the central issue in their minds.

I tire of people who cannot be bothered to actually read the material they cite.

The Cited Article wrote..
The material prosperity of the North was greatly dependent on the Federal Government; that of the the South not at all. In the first years of the Republic the navigating, commercial, and manufacturing interests of the North began to seek profit and aggrandizement at the expense of the agricultural interests. Even the owners of fishing smacks sought and obtained bounties for pursuing their own business (which yet continue), and $500,000 is now paid them annually out of the Treasury. The navigating interests begged for protection against foreign shipbuilders and against competition in the coasting trade. Congress granted both requests, and by prohibitory acts gave an absolute monopoly of this business to each of their interests, which they enjoy without diminution to this day. Not content with these great and unjust advantages, they have sought to throw the legitimate burden of their business as much as possible upon the public; they have succeeded in throwing the cost of light-houses, buoys, and the maintenance of their seamen upon the Treasury, and the Government now pays above $2,000,000 annually for the support of these objects. Theses interests, in connection with the commercial and manufacturing classes, have also succeeded, by means of subventions to mail steamers and the reduction in postage, in relieving their business from the payment of about $7,000,000 annually, throwing it upon the public Treasury under the name of postal deficiency. The manufacturing interests entered into the same struggle early, and has clamored steadily for Government bounties and special favors. This interest was confined mainly to the Eastern and Middle non-slave-holding States. Wielding these great States it held great power and influence, and its demands were in full proportion to its power. The manufacturers and miners wisely based their demands upon special facts and reasons rather than upon general principles, and thereby mollified much of the opposition of the opposing interest. They pleaded in their favor the infancy of their business in this country, the scarcity of labor and capital, the hostile legislation of other countries toward them, the great necessity of their fabrics in the time of war, and the necessity of high duties to pay the debt incurred in our war for independence. These reasons prevailed, and they received for many years enormous bounties by the general acquiescence of the whole country.

Of course slavery was one of the issues behind the Civil War. But it was hardly the only issue, and in fact the others were repeatedly cited by the States in question including in the very piece that the now-banned claims makes his point.

Further, if you were anti-slavery why would you press for a war that you knew would destroy a material part of the nation's prosperity, property and people when on a purely economic basis all you had to do is wait as slavery had ALREADY become uneconomic by the time of Ft. Sumpter?

That makes no sense as a practical matter; what you wanted to achieve (the end of slavery) was already happening without a shot being fired.

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Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."

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