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Vitchilo
Posts: 4990
Incept: 2011-04-27
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Don't worry, they are making sure to scare the crap out of people with the sequester by cutting vital stuff while keeping the superficial crap... http://connecticut.news12.com/federal-bu....Quote:Federal budget cuts may lead to closure of control towers at Conn. airports
Six state airports are at risk of having their control towers closed down by the federal government due to widespread budget cuts.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has yet to select a date for the shutdown, but officials with the American Association of Airport Executives say April 7 is the likely deadline. They add that the only way to prevent the decision would be to convince the FAA that the closures would have national implications.
Sikorsky, Danbury and Tweed-New Haven airports would lose towers, but would continue operate the same as they do at night when the towers are normally closed. That is crazy. Running an airport without traffic controllers? Insanity that could lead to hundreds dead.
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Uppity_peasant
Posts: 3231
Incept: 2009-06-26
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Quote:That is crazy. Running an airport without traffic controllers? Insanity that could lead to hundreds dead. If hundreds end up dead, we know who murdered them.
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==== If it's true that "assault weapons" are "weapons of war" and don't belong on the streets of America, why do the police need them? Who are the police at war with?
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Mannfm11
Posts: 3620
Incept: 2009-02-28
DFW, Tx
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I just opened a bill this evening for putting a port line in my mother to inject cancer drugs once a month. I guess because it was outpatient, Medicare didn't cover it. The bill was over $10K. There are people that would murder the owner of the outfit that sent that bill and put one in them for $10K. Mom has the money, but had she been informed of the price, I give you 10 to 1 she would not have had that procedure done. Kind of gives me the urge to put a 10 guage shot gun in that guys mouth and negotiate. Bet he works 2 days a week. Also bet the $30 contraption goes for several hundred dollars as well. You can get a bypass in some countries for $10K. Hope St. Peter is counting schemes like this as stealing, the mortal sin kind.
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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
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Fraudster
Posts: 4181
Incept: 2011-05-10
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The major assumption there is that defense is going to be $750B in 2 years. I call nuts on that call. Defense is going to grow, IMHO, for a whole host of reasons. The picture is only going to be worse in another 2 years. And BTW, you make the case for why we will never see deficits below $1 trillion ever again. At least until things blow up.
EDIT: And I also am suspicious of the continued decline in welfare spending. I dunno KD. Things are looking really grim.
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Genesis
Posts: 131489
Incept: 2007-06-26
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It won't go beyond about another two years.
At the point the market figures out that there's no discretionary spending coming out of tax revenues at all -- it's all "mandatory" -- the game's up.
Doesn't matter what The Fed does at that point. The market still thinks there's a "recovery" coming and that spending as a percentage of GDP will come down while taxation will remain about the same.
Wrong guess.
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Azusgm
Posts: 2623
Incept: 2010-12-02
East Texas
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What do tax revenues have to do with anything? Did Bennie's magical printing press melt down?
The idea of running out of discretionary spending ability on the .gov level is worth contemplating for a moment or two. Just think -- no more lobbyists. No more Obama phones. No more GSA conventions. No more War on Drugs. The ability to bring home the bacon in size would be gone. The only things that would be on the rise would be related to those of us who are on a decline.
Four decades ago, my father's cousin who was an Iowa farmer was talking about life and work under the USDA pricing programs. He said that he spent entire days filling out paperwork and preparing grant applications. He had learned that it was necessary to know the pet projects among the powerful congressmen. At that particular point in time it was beneficial to include the word "cancer" in a grant application. He had zero thoughts on how to cure cancer and did not intend to try. However, he made sure to engage in a little creative writing that used the word "cancer" so that he could get on with the business of farming.
What a different place our country would be if the federal govt had never authorized the creation of the federal reserve system.
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Spence
Posts: 2574
Incept: 2009-09-11
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Karl, I love your analysis. I just have one nagging question that's been bugging me. I worked for years in medical device (electronics) development. I saw first hand how the corporations worked with universities, medical associations, government entities, and research publishers to pump up the need for some device. It's hard core marketing and creating of marginal problems to solve to make money.
The nagging question is: Will that exponential curve of medical spending actually find an asymptote rather than crashing? Once you have everyone fully CT scanned, joints replaced, dozens of toxic drugs consumed, isn't there a point where it will no longer grow, but also not shrink?
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Stonedog
Posts: 2085
Incept: 2008-05-29
New Jersey
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Karl - any thoughts about the following Treasury report "Final Monthly Report of Receipts and Outlays of the U.S. Government through September 2012" which seems to indicate on Table 5 on Page 10 under the heading of "Total--Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services" that the US government spent $1.052 trillion on medicare and medicaid in FY 2012? http://www.fms.treas.gov/mts/mts0912.pdfI only came across this report earlier this week as the result of a discussion with another individual on another website...
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Vegasradar
Posts: 8721
Incept: 2007-07-11
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The only thing missing from this pict is the KY
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Bertdilbert
Posts: 2695
Incept: 2008-12-22
CA
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Everything is a jobs program.
Defense, Education, War On Drugs, Prison System, Housing, Medical Care, Medical insurance. Oh and War on Terrorism and Government itself.
The central planners will save us...
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Dear Euroland: Relax, Germany has a plan for your money!
Political Capital Defined: We are out of money but will tax our citizens for whatever it takes to "SAVE" the Euro.
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Marvinmartian
Posts: 759
Incept: 2011-03-16
Pasadena, CA
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Bert wrote..Everything is a jobs program. Been that way since Marbury vs Madison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._....Note that the Wikipedia article cites precedent going back hundreds of years. Quote:The idea that courts could nullify statutes originated in England with Chief Justice Edward Coke's 1610 opinion in Dr. Bonham’s Case, 8 Co. Rep. 107a. Not sure I have any solutions, but just referencing history.
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Hogman
Posts: 7888
Incept: 2008-02-18
Derby City, USA
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Karl wrote.. The market still thinks there's a "recovery" coming... Exactly -Bill
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Gillianx
Posts: 65
Incept: 2010-01-07
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So I don't understand why this can't continue beyond 2 years. As Karl says, social security can be cut. That leaves room for Medicare, Defense, etc. to continue to grow as a percentage of all spending. Why would this prevent the US from continuing to run deficits especially when the market will see that they're cutting social security spending. This will be spun as a massive positive allowing for even more borrowing beyond the 2 years.
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Leicestersq
Posts: 225
Incept: 2009-10-12
UK
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Just a small point. Linking retirement benefits to longevity isnt quite enough. What is important is keeping the ratio of workers to retirees near constant. Changing retirement age based on longevity doesnt accomplish that. It doesnt mean it wouldnt work, but you would have to be lucky.
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Patch
Posts: 16
Incept: 2009-04-14
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Karl, After reading your posts for years, this one has finally made an impression, regarding the medical system. Keep on message. Slight changes in delivery and substance will connect to a varied audience. Thanks.
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Flappingeagle
Posts: 1250
Incept: 2011-04-14
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The US has never been able to collect much more than 20% of GDP in taxes. The current GDP is 15 trillion so 20% would be 3 trillion. We are spending 3.8 trillion this year. Make that work out long term.
Flap
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Mo
Posts: 12158
Incept: 2007-06-26
Pa.
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You're not understanding the leftist plan.
If you pay the federal government for higher educcation, health insurance, health care, property insurancce, etc, etc after they nationalize all these industries, they'll have plenty of money.
And they'll tell YOU when you are permitted to buy things like a car or home. You won't be permitted to buy a gun at all.
Don't like it? Go to the prison industrial complex and be a slave.
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Swampwoman
Posts: 388
Incept: 2009-12-06
NE Florida
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Wow, we have two more years before TSHTF? What a relief. My gardening is of the hit or miss variety (mostly miss) and now I have two more years to practice!
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Bertdilbert
Posts: 2695
Incept: 2008-12-22
CA
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Quote:So I don't understand why this can't continue beyond 2 years. As Karl says, social security can be cut. That leaves room for Medicare, Defense, etc. to continue to grow as a percentage of all spending. Why would this prevent the US from continuing to run deficits especially when the market will see that they're cutting social security spending. This will be spun as a massive positive allowing for even more borrowing beyond the 2 years SS is funded from payroll taxes and any shortfall is funded from the trust fund which is new money that has to come from somewhere since it is an empty trust. If we modify SS payouts it does absolutely nothing for the rest of the spending problems since it somewhat operates as a closed unit, money in and money out. Any delay of retirement benefits will likely mean they will stay in the workforce longer, but staying in the workforce longer means a greater number of young people will be unemployed as a result of an extended retirement age. This of course will have more young people seeking refuge from unemployment in the student loan system. Spin is not going to fix anything here.
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Dear Euroland: Relax, Germany has a plan for your money!
Political Capital Defined: We are out of money but will tax our citizens for whatever it takes to "SAVE" the Euro.
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Lenguado
Posts: 1285
Incept: 2010-01-12
Orlando, FL
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Vitch & Uppity, Quote:That is crazy. Running an airport without traffic controllers? Insanity that could lead to hundreds dead. Apparently ya'll aren't pilots - are ya? MOST airports in this country DO NOT have air traffic controllers or towers. There are procedures that all pilots know and are trained to follow, when there isn't a tower or controller. It's not a big deal for small to mid-sized airports - which Sikorsky, Danbury and Tweed-New Haven airports are. As noted in the quotation - "continue operate the same as they do at night when the towers are normally closed". Now, at large commercial airports - that's a bit of a different story. But there still are procedures. Just that air traffic would slow to a very very slow grind getting in and out due to having to keep safe traffic spacing through the control of departure times. Scare mongering indeed (them, not you). Exactly what they wanted when they put that out.
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I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics" they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone! Welcome to history’s first Double Dip Depression
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