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Ricka01
Posts: 1214
Incept: 2009-03-05
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Whenever I hear that "never again" statement made, my first question is: "How?" The response is always a very confused look on the other person's face.
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Spanktron9
Posts: 2774
Incept: 2009-03-13
Reality.
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Quote:We not only took these people's freedom without cause we dispossessed them of every worldly thing they owned that was not able to be carried in their hands at the time they were rounded up. My former and now deceased MIL was a 442 baby. Her parents and family were interned in Eastern OR. Her father was a successful chef and owned a restaurant Near Ontario, OR. They also owned their own homes. They were given 72 hours to liquidate ALL property and take what they could carry to the camps. They were given gunny sacks and told to gather straw and make their own mattresses. Her mother lost her first baby in the camp, and it wasn't until uncle Yas enlisted in the 442 that she got sufficient resources to bring Denise (my MIL) to term. Reperations were $20k. A fraction of what was lost. This topic is very close to home for me and my family. It certainly did and can happen here. Thanks for posting.
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Djloche
Posts: 3276
Incept: 2008-07-07
In the Mountains
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and for those that think that WW2 was too long ago, Ruby Ridge, Waco, & Big Bear provide recent examples of the government flat out murdering people - and getting away with it.
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"If we wish to be free, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?"
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Greendisease
Posts: 65
Incept: 2011-04-11
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Just substitute "Jap" with "gun nut", "domestic terrorist", or "redneck".
This country is full of hate and primed for a new scapegoat.
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Eaglewwit
Posts: 6054
Incept: 2007-11-30
SoCal
Banned
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Remember that this was a time when most Americans were less sheep like. Imagine how easy it is gonna be this time around.
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Ishmael
Posts: 4731
Incept: 2008-02-25
Los Angeles to Oklahoma, at least temporarily for now!
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Oh and let us not forget native Americans. I have blood from three of the five civilized tribes in me. My great great grandfather wife and kids were living on a thousand acre farm outside of Nashville. Everyone called him General because he fought with Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans and knew Jackson personally. He had a personally pledge if they were going to make them move they would do it in the summer. Well in the middle of the winter they came and made them walk to Oklahoma. Stole all of their assets except that which they could carry. They had to cross a river in the middle of winter and basically my great great grandmother died from exposure. Basically, the five civilized tribes adopted white men ways and beat white men at business so whites said screw you and seized all of their assets and moved them to Oklahoma. Yes it has happened here several times. It will probably happen several more times.
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Hope is neither a good strategy or birth control methodology!
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Jb350
Posts: 359
Incept: 2011-06-10
Detroit metro
Banned
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I bought "in defense of internment" in order to try to understand the mentality of the era. But I just couldnt stomach that hackjob shill malkin enough to get thru one chapter.
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Bagbalm
Posts: 4258
Incept: 2009-03-19
Just North of Detroit
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Yes I totally agree this can happen tomorrow - but why this ticker and no links? Who has been talking to you, and should I be taking my go bag down to the car?
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Fraudster
Posts: 4174
Incept: 2011-05-10
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Human beings are human beings. Regardless of race or nationality. I would no more trust the US Government with my safety and well being than I would Cuba, Iran or any other tyrannical regime. Once you are dealing with human beings, all bets are off.
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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]." - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov
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Ducarius
Posts: 125
Incept: 2010-08-25
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This only matters 1/10th as much as all those evil southern redneck racists in the military and their treatment of blacks because FDR was the greatest Democrat President since Barrack Obama. Remember kids, racism or violations of the Constitution only matter if Republicans do it.
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Im0077
Posts: 9
Incept: 2009-11-09
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Harrisonact
Posts: 1754
Incept: 2010-10-04
canada
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I'd trust the Cuba .gov with my rights before trusting the US .gov
Oh, and what's this Constitution thing I hear so much about?
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bilge
My playbook speaks español. Deal with it. Im too lazy to fix it.
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Ghopper
Posts: 2317
Incept: 2011-06-11
Staten Island, NY
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Let's not forget the Supreme Court ruled that this was fine and dandy.
A civil war in the US will be played by the press as the 'Heroes' against baby murdering terrorists...and the sheeple will buy it in the big cities.
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Fraudster
Posts: 4174
Incept: 2011-05-10
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Quote:Let's not forget the Supreme Court ruled that this was fine and dandy. Dredd Scott, etc. The Supreme Court's record is far from blemish free. Again though, made up of humans driven by the same passions and biases the world over, and across time. So all of the statists who feel secure giving the Government full control over their lives better be careful.
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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]." - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov
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Mangoelvis
Posts: 1727
Incept: 2009-07-11
Las Vegas, NV
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Santa Anita racetrack was one of the internment camps in So Cal and I always got a creepy feeling when I went there. It is still hard for me to believe.
Mom is 82 yr old from Japan. She wasn't here for that but she goes to church (actually Buddhist temple) with some survivors. Most of them are very well adjusted and still love this country...but they're going away fast. And to think we have people in this country who have had everything given to them and still hate this place. Unbelievable.
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Evolutionarily speaking, sloths must taste terrible.
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Alan_static
Posts: 10
Incept: 2009-12-28
Red Hook
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Geschrei
Posts: 469
Incept: 2009-02-23
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Because of these well-documented atrocities against clearly-defined ethnic groups (Jews, Native Americans, Japanese-Americans, etc), most of the "Never Again!" crowd automatically assume that it will be another 'oppressed minority' that will be rounded up into camps - even as they are enthusiastically supporting the people setting the machinery for such an action in place.
Try to imagine a government led by the likes of Barrack Obama, John Boehner, Hillary Clinton, Mitch McConnell, Harry Reid, John McCain, Patty Murray, or Marco Rubio taking such action against, say, undocumented Mexicans or fundamentalist Muslims. It just isn't going to happen.
That said - now imagine that same group crusading against "anti-statists"...THAT, my friends, will be the next target demo for dispossession.
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“The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern.”
Lord Acton (1834 - 1902)
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Adrenaline_junky
Posts: 1869
Incept: 2007-09-14
Chicago
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Was curious about exactly what SCOTUS ruled on. Looks like SCOTUS ruled on a single aspect of the internment (the exclusion orders, which allowed the military to relocate those people of Japanese decent living near military zones), and in that ruling they did side with the government. That ruling, while never overturned, has been disavowed by the Department of Justice (in 2011 !?!?). Not that this is any consolation whatsoever to the Japanese who were interred, nor does it offer any guarantee whatsoever that it won't happen again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v....So yea, this just shows that SCOTUS will go along with whatever bull**** reason the executive branch comes up with next time.
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"If Goldman Sachs is doing God's work, they must be referring to the cruel God of the Old Testament who brought forth plagues, floods, and pestilence." - Me
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Drkshapiro
Posts: 630
Incept: 2012-09-12
Southern CA
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Karl, thank you for posting this. Last year I took my kids to the remnants of one of the camps here in S California. There are libertarians on this site who do not view the government as part of "we"; rather more as an occupying army. In that light, about a month ago there was an article somewhere in the blogasphere about a Japanese American who did not go peacefully and ended up having to run off to Canada to avoid imprisonment. He had just passed away. He was not the only one and there were Americans who fought against this tyranny, just as you and others on this site continue to fight against tyranny today. Not everyone, as you know, is a sheeple.
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Honesty may be the best policy, but it’s important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. --G Carlin
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Lowbeyond
Posts: 16899
Incept: 2008-02-11
CO aka West NJ/East CA
Online
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People are willingly blind You bring this up, sprinkle in other things like Tuskegee, nerve gas experiments etc etc and all 99% of the people will say. Well we learned our lesson. We have protections in place now. IOW they do not give a **** as they think _they_ will be spared, they will be the wavers. 
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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
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Blackswan
Posts: 5564
Incept: 2007-11-06
Just outside of Philly
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“It’s checkmate. Everywhere it’s checkmate.”
Hugh Hendry
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Drkshapiro
Posts: 630
Incept: 2012-09-12
Southern CA
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Blackswan, if that's your dog it is G-R-E-A-T. :-) :-) Those eyes make anyone happy. The answer to chronic depression without drugs.
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Honesty may be the best policy, but it’s important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. --G Carlin
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Templar223
Posts: 779
Incept: 2008-04-28
Champaign, IL
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Nicely done.
And while I'm concerned about NDAA, I'm also concerned about some state governments rounding up formerly law-abiding residents who won't submit to arbitrary demands they surrender their guns.
John
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Ktrosper
Posts: 1500
Incept: 2010-04-06
ft collins co
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Jb wrote..I bought "in defense of internment" in order to try to understand the mentality of the era. Wondered if anyone has read that. She's done some good work in some areas, but this - I could never wrap my head around. Probably a low blow, but has anyone asked her if her niece (who disappeared a while back) might have been "interned"?
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The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
Liberty exists now in the spaces government has not yet chosen to occupy.-Doc Zero
I anticipate that 10 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders will blow me this evening.-K.D
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