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Flaps10
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The truck looked pretty new and the plate was quite clearly visible. It also appears that these poorly trained and scared officers shot these poor ladies from behind quite a number of times.


Note that the tires of the blue Toyota are flat. Given the choice marksmanship from what, 20-30'?

Consider also the background, where there is clearly a house. It probably has a crap ton of direct bullet impacts from shots that went wide, and also a bunch that skipped off the pavement and hit the house.

No words about those folks.

I've not seen pics of the second truck but I read that it was empty. Probably still missed several shots at it.

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Vernonb
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These cops are running scared. It makes you wonder if what the guy was saying was 100% true. How many people are willing to die for something like this? Is he crazy or is there something deeper we have not been told?

I don't approve of killing innocents but the LAPD do not appear to be innocents. If you serve a corrupt organization then do not expect to be spared when the judgement comes.

This is the situation I referred when gun grabbers start showing up door to door and the situation starts to escalate - it becomes asymmetric warfare.

It becomes a question of survival. All the gun grabbers and tyrants should note this now. This could be hell on steroids. I hope it never comes to this.

This was one man.... imagine well trained military groups around the country.



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FUBAR seems to apply from what I digest from here and some news. Bad police, bad shooter, bad media, a sluggish public, and we probably don't know nearly all the accurate facts. There's probably quite a bit more we'll never know.
Just waiting for the outside factions to take up sides to politicize this for their benefits and for the woo-woo crowd to start conjuring numerology and Illuminati references. Sigh.

This could well be the sort of thing that ignites bigger incidents and imo more than likely without anyone but the participants knowing what's really true.
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Sorry to get all academic with the Milgram experiment and whatnot, but we humans need to know who we are. Obedience is a PROVEN human trait and for the advancement of our species we must realize that obedience CAN become a liability. I'm sure some other agnostics/atheists would scoff at me, but I believe that a human being OUGHT believe in SOMETHING outside of our individual lives and experiences.. that is what principles are, things we don't have to believe in.. Many people clearly do not.. We mustn't ever let ourselves be divided on sectarian grounds, simple principles like non-aggression span so many religions, and also span many irreligious minds, principle is the true dividing line between man and monster.. If you love the truth and you love your brother it doesn't matter what you otherwise believe...

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oh shucks everyone, let's just sing a song.......Ready?
All together now:
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I finally saw some reports on the TV news tonight about the cops poppin' off multiple rounds on those asian women newspaper deliverers while in their car in Torrance. Shot the 71 year old mother in the back twice and her 46 year old daughter in the hand. Damn lucky they aren't dead. They interviewed the neighbors who are outraged at the cops. Bullet holes in their cars and homes. There were about 30 bullet holes in the asian women's car alone. It's a nice neighborhood and those are salt of the earth americans living there. So word is getting around that the pigs are completely out of control. It's not just the gang-bangers who hate the pigs now. John and Jane Doe Americans are jumpin' aboard the hate train too. This is beginning to build up steam in the pressure cooker with no outlet for the steam. The chief of LAPD should be in that neighborhood down on his ******* hands and knees begging for their forgiveness. But according the lawyer retained by the asian women the Chief hasn't even contacted them or apologized. Arrogant ****.

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Eaglewwit
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Small correction, they were Latina women. Other than that spot on.
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"Small correction, they were Latina women."

Not according to all the reports I listened to, Eagle. A radio show interviewed the lawyer representing the women and it mentioned they were asian.

The TV broadcast I watched indicated they were asians.

Torrance is a heavily populated asian community, btw. Actually, it's a nice upscale town. One of the few decent pockets of civilization left in LA.

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Morla
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Well Noodleman's talk of the "pigs" reminds me of a Gwar song (about crooked cops), but I wouldn't name or link it here..

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Fear of govt IS the government.. Statism is a pack of unbacked threats; If govt gets out of control, ignore it and go about life as you see fit. Where's your crown, King Nothing?

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The initial reports were that the women were Asian, but the names are clearly Spanish. There is a strong Asian population in Torrance and it is considered an upper scale area. Conceivably they could be Asian with Spanish surnames, but as much as the media screws up in theses cases, it could go either way. I am kind of wondering if the media did not do it on purpose so as not to enrage the Hispanic community.

There is a story running around the net that a Feinstein aide said that everyone should lay down their weapons including law enforcement... and the guy will turn himself in because that is human nature... I have not traced that story down but it certainly paints CA as loony. We are so doomed in CA.

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There is seriously some rumor going around that the lefty antigun stuff was added by some 4chan troll.

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Asians with spanish names are generally Filipino

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Here is the link to the retards (sorry retards for the insult) to all to lay down their weapons:

http://www.palookavillepost.com/2013/02/....

I am sorry for all of the peace officers out there but LE you are on your own.

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So who do you call when the police are shooting at you?

Spence
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Here's a recent article with more details, sounds like the Keystone Cops, totally careless and untrained.

Dorner manhunt: 7 cops mistakenly fired on newspaper carriers

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20....

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At least seven officers opened fire on a mother and daughter team delivering newspapers, mistaking their blue Toyota Tacoma for the grey pickup being driven by a disgruntled ex-cop suspected of killing three people in a violent revenge campaign, law enforcement sources said.

New details emerged Friday about the early-morning shooting in Torrance that occurred hours after ex-LAPD cop Christopher Jordan Dorner shot three police officers -- one of them fatally.

In an interview with The Times on Friday, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck outlined the most detailed account yet of how the shooting unfolded. Margie Carranza, 47, and her mother, Emma Hernandez, 71, were the victims of "a tragic misinterpretation" by officers working under "incredible tension," he said.


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They need to be in prison -- period.

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Chris Dorner's act of intergrity.

http://enidnews.com/localnews/x964898713....

He and a friend found $8000 and turned it into the local police.

This guy is ISANE!!!

$8000 just lying around in the street and all he does is give back to who lost.

Some people are just crazy.
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Hmm - everyone want's SOMEONE to go first... well THERE HE IS!
Flaps10
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Don't forget Joe Stack.

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Could we be getting played?
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Law enforcement's best ability to catch Chris Dorner is for the public to give tip the law off when they see him. But if the public has a hostility to law enforcement because of law enforcement's bad behavior and perceive they are not the target of his wrath then the police will have a very difficult time catching this guy
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Someone needs to go to that Torrance neighborhood where the 2 women were shot and distribute pamphlets about where to buy guns and receive proper training.

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I guess all the left wingnuts will be shooting cops to get gun control now. Not sure which side to be on in this one.

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I have a spare bedroom,food, and more ammo for all of my alleged friends who might need a place to crash during their journey.

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Die in a fire statist *******s.Bring it.

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