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Eaglewwit
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Because we as a society have allowed this to go on for too long without standing up and demanding it stop and people be held accountable.

Same reason that we as a country are in the situation we are in.
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Whistle blowers have for the most part been getting nothing but the shaft for a couple of decades at the least and getting it worse as things get tougher.

"Gettler and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower."

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...and remember WHO is it that is clamping down on "leaks"? / aka whistleblowers?

Why it's King O of course.

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There are two versions of Dorner's manifesto out there.


I downloaded the pdf file from scribd or whatever... easier for me to read.

I found some sections had text that could be cut-and-pasted from the clipboard, and other sections looked like they had been scanned.

Not saying it was manufactured, but it definitely had two different appearances.
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That would be almost-certainly cooked.

Got a link? I want that one.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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his facebook page has a link to his "like", candice foster, and she has it posted.

boywithgrenade.org also has it, and it seems that the women who were shot already have their lawyer on the case.

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Karl,

I think the link was embedded in this article:
http://www.myfoxla.com/story/21085769/ex....

It no longer works.

I'm emailing you the file. karl@denninger.net
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Thanks.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Karl,

The time on the file does not match the posting time of the first article.

I did a more specific search and came up with this LATimes article:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20....

The link is live. I haven't checked to see if the content matches.
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Let me guess, is the entire manifesto legitimate except the portion where he pushes gun control? lol
I'm not American and have no real bias on the issue, and yet when I read through the manifesto, that is the portion that stood as being uncharacteristically different from the rest
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I got it.

It looks like they rastered the pages they redacted data on.

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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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There is some funny **** in that manifesto... A former Navy police officer saying yeah no guns for citizens ... Uh huh .... And Chelsea Clinton is hot ... Hahahahha

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At least the local news just covered the story about the shooting of innocents the other night. They had the attorneys on for the victims. Those attorneys hit a jackpot and a slam dunk case. I wonder how many attorneys were swarming these people.
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Un-redacted version.

http://wap.myfoxla.com/w/main/story/8447....

This is a battle between the police and one of their own. Not our fight. The Ticker is right on. The MSM has no shame.

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Good news the great state of nazi land is looking to fix this problem.

Law abiding gun owners in California have to feel uneasy after Democrats rolled out a massive gun control package on Thursday, which includes strict ammunition regulations and even a bill that allows potential confiscation of the state’s 166,000 legally registered semi-automatic rifles.

Under the sweeping gun control bills introduced by state Senate Democrats, all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines would be banned, all guns would be registered and gun owners would need a special permit just to buy ammunition.

The proposals appear to be even more draconian than New York’s recent gun control legislation, considered to be the toughest in the nation.

Mercury News has more details:


The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation’s strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.

This first unified California plan comes less than a month after New York adopted its own sweeping package of new gun controls and President Barack Obama announced a package of executive actions, all in the wake of December’s Connecticut schoolhouse massacre. Even as this plan emerged Thursday, House Democrats’ gun violence task force was announcing 15 “policy principles,” including protecting Second Amendment rights but also instituting universal background checks and reinstating a federal assault weapons ban.

State Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) on Thursday defended the huge gun control package, saying “California’s tough gun laws have been exploited long enough.” He also said he respects the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to have firearms for hunting, sport and home defense.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/....

Step one find the guns

Step two take the guns

Step three load the problems on to the trains

Step four dig holes

Step five put the problems in the holes (using bullets helps the problems fall into the hole)

Step six fill in the hole

Step seven repeat step 3 through 7 until problems is no longer a problem

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Step four have the problems dig holes at gunpoint
FIFY

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Cops should have to buy malpractice insurance. Tax payers should not be responsible when a cop ****s up. They should be PERSONALLY responsible for any liabilities that come up while on the job. Just like other professionals are.
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Sovereign Immunity. Don't leave home without it.

Shucks, they was just doin' their job. smiley

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Yes Karl, shooting up that truck was flat-out attempted murder. You can't even SEARCH a truck without probable cause. Some clean cop needs to get up the nerve to arrest these guys..

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From what I understand there are two separate instances where someones truck has gotten shot up by the cops in the past day or two

I'll try to find the link to the other report

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Oh but I wouldn't start throwing around fourth "Reich" just yet.. If there's ever to be a fourth Reich it's a bit too early to start guessing at who the players would be considering the how fragile the illusions of the current kleptocracy have become..

What I see here is an exhibition of the dark corner of the human mind that any fascist/oppressive regime must manipulate in order to get its dirty work done.. The fact that a significant percentage of humans are capable of heinous crimes when they believe a perceived authority figure wants them to commit them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_exp....
Stanley Milgram wrote..
Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.

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Fear of govt IS the government.. Statism is a pack of unbacked threats; If govt gets out of control, ignore it and go about life as you see fit. Where's your crown, King Nothing?

Reason: minor formatting
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Paulanderson wrote..
But insults and racial slurs, no matter how despicable, just don't rise to that level for people who advocate and believe in the nonaggression principle.
There is such a thing as "fighting words".. Or the "fighting words doctrine". Some believe that "fighting words", justify or excuse a physical response... In my mind, name-calling doesn't quite cut it. Something like, "the moment you drive away to work, I'm going to break into your house and******your 6 year old while your tied up wife watches..." well....

Lowbeyond wrote..
CO is gonna fall. Its going though its death throws now...
smileysmileysmiley

Morla +1

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You know two things come to mind

1) Nick Meli the CCW in the Oregon mall shooting has more self control than two ... Sorry ... Four "highly trained" police officers

2) The LAPD are lucky he bothered to publish his manifesto... Imagine if he was doing this stealth.... Irvine PD would still be scratching their ass

And let's dispense with "mistaken identity" ... It was a violation of procedure and attempted murder the police officers bias and "tiger blood" got the best of them and they were WRONG. Very very wrong.


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Our world is run by the MOB, ie the Banking Cartel. The number one recipient of commercial banking donations. Barack Obama. Nuf said.
It’s enough to convict OJ with an ALL black jury. LCruiser 1/29/09

Reason: Had to add more failure points of the Torrance and LAPD :)
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I'm just still stunned that allegedly well trained LAPD officers could confuse two women with a single big black bald man. The truck looked pretty new and the plate was quite clearly visible. It also appears that these poorly trained and scared officers shot these poor ladies from behind quite a number of times. What a screw-up and liability. These guys that did the shooting are truly "keystone cops" and they were at a key investigation location so they must be among the elite!

If a single trained individual can create this panic in a large city police force with all its resources and an old man can hold off a police and FBI force in a bunker for almost a week, if the government tries to control J6P it's going to be a fight for which the outcome is in doubt and be bloody at that.


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Nah they got ****ty duty... He's on the run but you two go sit out front all night...don't fall asleep ok:)

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Our world is run by the MOB, ie the Banking Cartel. The number one recipient of commercial banking donations. Barack Obama. Nuf said.
It’s enough to convict OJ with an ALL black jury. LCruiser 1/29/09
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