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Iou
Posts: 1025
Incept: 2009-03-16
The Twilight Zone
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I smell something in the air...
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."- Frédéric Bastiat
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Rvacha
Posts: 8295
Incept: 2008-10-03
Cleveland
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But, but but... IWM has a P/E of 25.4 - what could possibly go wrong? /sarc
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"I suggest you panic." - Hugh Hendry
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Bagbalm
Posts: 4255
Incept: 2009-03-19
Just North of Detroit
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To quote my mother-in-law. "You mean those things (mutual funds foisted off on her) can go DOWN?" She was sold on taking that instead of cash for her husband's life insurance policy. She could not define what a stock is, or how it was different than a bond. I suppose they defined her as a sophisticated investor.
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Novid
Posts: 92
Incept: 2010-06-25
Philadelphia
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The Investors are*****ing me off even more today. But I noticed it since the days of KDE when i did a business class for a bit. KDE had no debt and kept the books straight when it was getting hammered for no good damn reason. Amazon and Rimm spoke the truth but yet the bastards going for Amazon even THOUGH they know they are getting hosed by the State Tax racket. This is bull****. Now i know even if RIMM beats expectations first quarter the investors going to **** them over even when the sales say otherwise.
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Andrew123
Posts: 175
Incept: 2009-07-05
California
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IS it fair to ignore Qcom and Citrix? I Don't have anything to say about RIMM (buy the way, buying RImm was a terrific call, but do you remain long), but there were a lot of smart people on the thread when STX and VMW got creamed that said the VMW in particular was a company in deep trouble. I think the Citrx results point to further problems at VMW as they seem to be getting attacked from all sides. I agree that the market is in a fed induced bubble, but I don't thinkj it is fair to point to those three companies and say the decline isn't company specific.
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Lenguado
Posts: 1272
Incept: 2010-01-12
Orlando, FL
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Quote:The crowd never gets out in time. You will not get out in time. Uhhmmm, I got out about 5 years ago. Never went back in. And not going to... Quote:You will not demand your government stop with the deficit spending and the bipartisan unwillingness to stop deficit spending. I DO demand it. They just don't #$@%ing listen - or care. I'm tired of peeing into the wind. I know that's probably what they want. But since this seems to be what well over 51% of the AmeriKan people want, doesn't seem that anything much will change any time soon. Quote:You will instead buy into the bubble TV mantra that "happy days are here again" I DO NOT buy into the bubble TV BS. I know it is all crap. That's why I read the Market-Ticker.
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I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics" they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone! Welcome to history’s first Double Dip Depression
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Sean
Posts: 1766
Incept: 2009-04-21
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Len sounds exactly like me!
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* I think Ann Barnhardt is more and more right. God help us! * Progressives / Marxists / Communists are many things, STUPID and IMPATIENT are not two of them. * A hot civil war is coming. * And people wonder why I prep!
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Ktrosper
Posts: 1500
Incept: 2010-04-06
ft collins co
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KD wrote.....in which case this has all been one gigantic waste of time. I guess only you can answer that. If your goal was to actually stop what increasingly appears to be the inevitable brick wall??? Maybe. I see that as one man trying to keep the tide at bay... We're talking forces of nature here. Stuff that brilliant men documented and warned about thousands of years ago. From where I sit, you've been a smashing success. You opened my eyes and the eyes of many in my family and you're going to end up saving us a lot of pain. That's no small thing. You've changed the way we live and taught us a lot... You've buoyed and even changed our values. Values that'll effect the descisions we make moving forward and that will have a lasting effect for generations, as I pass those values on to my children and they pass them on to theirs. Waste of time?? Not from my point of view. KT
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The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle Liberty exists now in the spaces government has not yet chosen to occupy.-Doc Zero I anticipate that 10 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders will blow me this evening.-K.D
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Rolldog1
Posts: 8
Incept: 2011-08-01
Midwest
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It didn't take long for that bit of optimism that Gen had last week to evaporate....
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Perramas
Posts: 54
Incept: 2011-01-24
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Karl you have made a difference, your time and energy spent on this has not be in vain. I have zero debt, paid of my mortgage early and I have no long term exposure to any paper "assets" thanks to you and this site.
I have a good cache of food, ammo, water, seeds and old fashioned tools that do not require power to operate. I also have 8 acres of land with a spring and a stand of woods that is off the beaten path that I can get too fairly quickly if it comes to that. All thanks to you, this site and other posters here.
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Assassination, Attack, Domestic security, Drill, Exercise, Cops, Law enforcement, Authorities, Disater assistance, Disaster management, DNDO, National prepardness, Mitigation, Prevention, Response, Recovery, Dirty bomb, Swat, Threat
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Dmj625
Posts: 434
Incept: 2010-03-01
New Orleans, LA
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"Ktrosper" wrote..From where I sit, you've been a smashing success. You opened my eyes and the eyes of many in my family and you're going to end up saving us a lot of pain. That's no small thing. You've changed the way we live and taught us a lot... You've buoyed and even changed our values. Values that'll effect the descisions we make moving forward and that will have a lasting effect for generations, as I pass those values on to my children and they pass them on to theirs.
Waste of time?? Not from my point of view. ^^^This^^^ DMJ625
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"The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." -Lao-tzu
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Andrew123
Posts: 175
Incept: 2009-07-05
California
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Karl, you have helped a small number of people who read the ticker (here or crossposted on occasion). If you really want to make a substanital difference, the only way is to run for office. You have reapeatedly said you have no interest in doing so, but you will have a much wider audience if you were a congressman. Running for offce is a very unpleasent prospect (who needs people trying to dig up dirt and attack you on the public airwaves), but it is the one option you haven't chosen, and would probably take less energy then keeping up with the tickers. If your goal is to really help fix the country, that is the way to do it.
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Mikek31
Posts: 4350
Incept: 2009-05-04
Chicago
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Karl wrote..I started writing this column in 2007 because I didn't think it was fair that people get screwed again after the Tech Wreck in 2000. I gave up doing what I like doing -- fishing, diving, sleeping -- for more than five years to do this.
And increasingly, I think I made a mistake. Well, you can't save 'em all as far as the stock market goes, but we can see you did your best. Besides, it's times like these that make the blog of utmost importance. More folks are gonna start paying attention. Don't give up, Karl.
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Everyone keeps looking at the system and saying "it's not working, it needs to be redesigned somehow." It's working exactly the way the people who own it intend it to work.-Sutluc
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Aethor
Posts: 126
Incept: 2011-11-15
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Karl - your work was not in vain; what you accomplished was to educate a number of people (me among others) and IMO opening other people's eyes must be a good thing in God's books.
As for changing the entire system, or making 51%+ of population see the same thing to the point where they actually change something... I think it's a bit too much to expect. After all, intelligence, ethics, attitude etc are all distributed on a bell curve, and you can only really educate the top 15% or so. Others will have to go through the slow process of real-life experiences... and there's no way to really speed that up.
Heck, it took me years to truly understand some things. It took me some personal pains in my life, due to my own mistakes, and then reading what you and a few other people on the Net wrote over and over, until it got into my head. And I considered myself smarter than the average... heh.
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J0nx
Posts: 3068
Incept: 2008-08-12
The trashcan of the nation
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Quote:It didn't take long for that bit of optimism that Gen had last week to evaporate.... ROFL. This. First thought in my mind after two tickers with a doom and gloom attitude from Karl makes me think something is afoot.
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The fraud and lies are only allowed to continue because the people allow it. Either through apathy or ignorance, they still allow it.
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Moneyman
Posts: 13
Incept: 2011-04-12
Houston Texas
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To answer the question Why?...it is quite simple. The world has become too complex for all but a very small % of the population to understand. In the last century complexity has increased, thanks to specialization, a hundred fold. The processing power of the average human mind has been stagnant at best. So we have 6B people running around with Atari processors trying to run the latest XBOX 360 games. These people vote, they faithfully contribute to their 401k's and purchase shares of AAPL, NFLX, and AMZN. They feed their kids SSRI's, change their oil every 3k miles...did I mention they vote? Everything experts tell them to do, they do, because they have absolutely no way of knowing better, or even differentiating between true experts and fraudsters. And so while we have all become experts in our own fields....we have all become imbeciles in just about every other respect. I am no better. My expertise happens to be accounting/finance. And yet as I look around my office and my home, there is almost no consumer product, save perhaps tomatoes that I have the ability to produce on my own. This is the root cause of Why. It will not get better..it very well may get worse. The bottom line is we need to be realistic about the hardware constraints our species faces and adjust our expectations accordingly.
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Rdgdawg
Posts: 165
Incept: 2010-04-30
WI... but no brats or cheese...
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I've learned more on here and TRUST more of what I've read on MT than any other source out there... and there's less TRUTH out there every day!
Don't give up the good fight!!!! I can't thank you enough for your committment and how much you've helped me and the info I pass along to friends and family!!!
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I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me!
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Jethrodull
Posts: 81
Incept: 2008-02-25
North Texas
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"if it could save just ONE (fill in the blank), it will have been a success".
Mission accomplished Gen! J
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Snowman
Posts: 1798
Incept: 2009-03-09
avoiding yellow snow
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I hope Karl isn't entering his underground bunker yet. There is money to be made on the downside too.... more than the upside, due to the sheeplelessness.
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Wis/min
Posts: 5362
Incept: 2009-08-14
On the border
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I have learned much from this site and appreciate Karl's work.
I also fully understand his frustration that so many people are just not getting it.
It's easy to be complacent, it's discouraging to work so hard and see so little change.
All the best Karl.
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Keenan
Posts: 30
Incept: 2013-01-11
Western PA
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Karl, your efforts are not in vain. The messages of your MT posts has reached many through word-of-mouth recommendations. Following your on-air radio session with Chris Moore at KDKA in Pittsburgh, several listeners remarked that the hour was the most insight-filled they've heard on that AM show. I believe you underestimate the reach and effect of your message. Sheep do not all awaken simultaneously.
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Stevehaney
Posts: 4
Incept: 2012-07-27
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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I've got to agree with Andrew about Citrix - they should not be overlooked. I've been integrating Citrix solutions for over 16 years. Their virtualization technology delivers applications to nearly any device (mobile, laptop, desktop) securely and seamlessly, and has for a long time. They've made smart acquisitions in the past, and continue to deliver a great product.
None of my clients want to support the device-of-the-month that their employees want to use. Citrix allows them to give their folks the ability to use whatever device they want to access their applications and data securely.
Virtualization goes beyond "the cloud", and I think a lot of folks don't get that. It allows a separation between operating systems (software) and physical hardware. Any business with an IT infrastructure, whether it is in-house or hosted, benefits from virtualization because it allows them to allocate their hardware investment on demand, rather than dedicating it to a specific application. Lots of applications sit close to idle 80% of the time, so it make sense for them to share hardware resources. In the past, most of my clients had datacenters full of servers sitting at 5% utilization.
Citrix has always gotten the full picture. VMware is trying to catch up with their own VDI, etc. But there is a big gap for them to fill - it might be too little too late.
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Weezie
Posts: 6069
Incept: 2008-05-19
Caution: Congress at Work
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Gen, you saved my family (including extended family who cared to listen) over $500K in asset value. We have a house nearly paid off, our savings intact and my own Dad isn't going to have a retirement where he's eating Alpo.
Thank you.
Since the political arena is bought and paid for, the real recourse is economic boycotts. Taking your $$ elsewhere; banking and buying local; encouraging more frugality including buying used and 'do yourself' repairs (including the videos on how to fix the capacitors in TV/monitors, for example).
The only message understood is money and our best weapon is to continue to educate and withhold our consent through economic proxy.
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The election is not a way to have a voice in government, but rather an impotent declaration if we prefer ketchup or mustard on our **** sandwich.
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Jerolexus
Posts: 56
Incept: 2008-02-26
NC
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Read my signature line...
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"It is never to be expected in a revolution that every man is to change his opinion at the same moment. There never yet was any truth or any principle so irresistibly obvious that all men believed it at once." ~ Thomas Paine, from Dissertation on First Principles of Government (July 1795)
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