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Wearedoomed
Posts: 3584
Incept: 2009-01-14
slightly red state
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The Feds and their New York counterparts had to have done some game theory on this possibility. Is this when **** finally gets real?
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And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54697
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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**** just got real.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Mcmwest
Posts: 133
Incept: 2009-04-06
Western Kansas
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According to NBER the recession ended in June 2009 so if you're broke and out of a job its all in your head.- Jay Leno
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Apotheoun
Posts: 1278
Incept: 2009-08-14
MN
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I guess another trip to cabellas is warrented this week/weekend. most of my family lives in upstate NY... it will be interesting to see what happens.
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"when despair is all you can see, the end is finally near."
"Because there is some good left in this world, AND ITS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!"
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Mcmwest
Posts: 133
Incept: 2009-04-06
Western Kansas
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Apotheoun-Good luck finding what you are after at this late date. Cabellas here has been an outhouse for a month now.
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According to NBER the recession ended in June 2009 so if you're broke and out of a job its all in your head.- Jay Leno
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Apotheoun
Posts: 1278
Incept: 2009-08-14
MN
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I have plenty of ammo, I stocked up on that a while ago, its the other things we may need if the crap hits the fan with civil war like purified water and so forth.
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"when despair is all you can see, the end is finally near."
"Because there is some good left in this world, AND ITS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!"
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Apotheoun
Posts: 1278
Incept: 2009-08-14
MN
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Karl I would really appreciate it if you kept keeping us up to date on the developement of this story.
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"when despair is all you can see, the end is finally near."
"Because there is some good left in this world, AND ITS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!"
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Ghopper
Posts: 2301
Incept: 2011-06-11
Staten Island, NY
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I really start to wonder about whether someone is really trying to start a civil war in the US.
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Noodleman
Posts: 2388
Incept: 2008-11-01
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It'll be interesting to watch how many march down to their local police departments and turn in their hardware. My guess would be about 65%. 35% would come up with excuses (sold or lost). I might be wrong. But if the rulers can pass the Patriot Act and NDAA with hardly a whimper from the prols what are the chances there will be mass defiance here? Oh, and of the 35% I'd say 20% of those are full-blown criminals in possession. They won't turn their hardware in. And that one's a given.
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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935
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Alsace
Posts: 1847
Incept: 2008-10-27
Bear says: Come Get Some!
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The Tickgerguy wrote.. There are only two options, really -- either the State backs down and repeals the law or attempts to enforce it. Third option? Say they get an estimated 10% compliance with registration. MSM won't highlight that fact. Claim victory, keep quiet and use the existing law as a way to pick off opposition as they stick their heads up. "Oh lookie, you have a weapon you didn't register..10 years!" In other words...enforce when convenient. Ultimately, they really don't care if your average bear has weapons, as long as the average bear is still hibernating... |
Wearedoomed
Posts: 3584
Incept: 2009-01-14
slightly red state
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Pika: Does Mr. Bentivolio plan to issue a statement about this?
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And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Johnny
Posts: 1585
Incept: 2008-10-01
Kentucky
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Now we know why the mandatory life sentence for killing a first responder...
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2698
Incept: 2007-08-19
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BTW, I was stunned to see yesterday my closest Wal-Mart just re-filled the ammunition stocks. Plenty of ammunition in all calibers, but the .223/5.56 and .22LR sold out quickly. Prices appeared to be about the same.
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Trading and investing is understanding about people, emotions and corruption of government, corporations, banks and people using propaganda, lies, mathematics and bankster logic working against you.
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2698
Incept: 2007-08-19
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Quote:The Feds and their New York counterparts had to have done some game theory on this possibility. Is this when **** finally gets real? Having worked at DHS and FEMA as a contractor on terrorism related systems I can assure you that you are giving the feds a lot more credit than what is due, much less for NY state authorities, who are still in react mode to all these legal and political changes and whims.
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Trading and investing is understanding about people, emotions and corruption of government, corporations, banks and people using propaganda, lies, mathematics and bankster logic working against you.
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Comrader
Posts: 78
Incept: 2010-06-10
pa
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congrats to cabelas for refusing to go to the pennsylvania outdoor show because of the shows rule of no assult weapons display, i will not attend for the first time in 40 yrs. i have however just ordered new boots from cabelas and left them know that i was proud of them
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Ghopper
Posts: 2301
Incept: 2011-06-11
Staten Island, NY
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The NY State reaction could easily just be Cuomo looking droolingly at 2016.
The Feds motives are much more clear, imho.
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Genesis
Posts: 130684
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Cuomo has likely done exactly that, but this is his Waterloo and he's now ****ed himself with regard to any shot at 2016. He probably doesn't recognize it yet.... but he will.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Winstonsmith2009
Posts: 1060
Incept: 2009-08-05
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Two minute excerpt from the film I previously linked to, "The Drugging of Our Children" where MICHAEL MOORE admits on camera that the likely reason behind Columbine was psychotropic drugs: Michael Moore - Reveals the real cause of Columbine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UqzYOdG.... |
Jtgeo
Posts: 8
Incept: 2012-01-03
indianapolis, Indiana
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Nice how the NY Post moved the goalposts on "assault weapons". Now anything that does not comply with the new NY law is one. Don't trust the media or the politicians that say they do not want to confiscate guns. Instapundit had a post about his article "Due Process When Everything is a Crime", but the quote from "Atlas Shrugged" was telling;
“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against – then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
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Seanmiller
Posts: 80
Incept: 2009-10-29
North Denver
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Quote:The Feds and their New York counterparts had to have done some game theory on this possibility. Is this when **** finally gets real? It was always real, only some didnt realize how high the stakes went, and so they thought it was a game. Assuming there was any fore-thought, it probably has some very flawed assumptions that lead to a skewed result |
Nomennescio
Posts: 63
Incept: 2012-01-16
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Noodleman,
don't expect to get any sort of real compliance numbers from the Ministry of Truth. I would have expected around 5% compliance but the approval numbers came out at around 71% for Kim Jong Cuomo in a poll that was conducted before, during and after the gun ban law "debate" so I've changed my prediction to 99% with only a handful of dangerous hardened criminals not registering their squirrel rifles and such. Don't be a 1%'er. See something, say something. Etc.
Also, got family in law enforcement locally. Says that none of the officers he works with will be making arrests for 10 round magazines. Maybe as an additional charge for somebody that really needs to be arrested, but otherwise, not so much. Which is at once both comforting and troubling, if you know what I mean and if you think you might one day become somebody's idea of someone that needs to be arrested. Or if you realize we're all just one revision of the DSM away from being classified as mentally ill.
Gen is right, wars have been started over things like this.
Nomen
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Aztrader
Posts: 6648
Incept: 2007-09-10
Scottsdale, AZ
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Did the Phoenix gun show this weekend and still trying to recoup. The ammo lines were over 2 hours long and the place was mobbed. Everyone asking big money for anything AR based. Magazines for 30 rounds averaged about $75 a piece. Lots of fools buying them. Had one guy looking for 10 round clips and asked him why? "Because the government would mandate it?". I commented if he was afraid of the govt? He said that he wanted to stay within the law and I commented that the laws are only for us and not for the crooks passing them. Why bother.............
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Noodleman
Posts: 2388
Incept: 2008-11-01
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"Also, got family in law enforcement locally. Says that none of the officers he works with will be making arrests for 10 round magazines."
Your family must work as cops in a one-horse town.
The cops in the cities would arrest you for looking at they cross-eyed if ordered to do so.
These are high-school educated idiots making more than general practice medical doctors and allowed to retire as early as 50.
You think they're going to put those employment terms at risk? heh. Fat chance.
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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935
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Jb350
Posts: 359
Incept: 2011-06-10
Detroit metro
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Replace King George with a group of banks (including the Fed) and you have basically the same exact type of tyranny. Taxation without representation comes in the form of currency devaluation that never gets a vote, not even in the house of representatives.
I do believe it was the tyranny that led to the war. What happened at Lexington and Concord was merely the inevitable tipping point that comes when you escalate the tyranny to higher and higher levels. But Lexington and Concord were no more the cause of the war than the hammer of a gun is the cause of a bullet firing. Sure, the hammer ignites the powder, but no one ever blames the hammer. It is just the middleman in a series of events.
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