Oh, Did The TSA Lie?
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Posted 2013-01-18 15:45
by Karl Denninger
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Oh, Did The TSA Lie?
 

Naw, the government would never lie to the people, right?

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration will remove airport body scanners that privacy advocates likened to strip searches after OSI Systems Inc. (OSIS)couldn’t write software to make passenger images less revealing.

TSA will end a $5 million contract with OSI’s Rapiscan unit for the software after Administrator John Pistole concluded the company couldn’t meet a congressional deadline to produce generic passenger images, agency officials said in interviews.

If you remember we were told that these images did not reveal details that would be considered "pornographic" to a reasonable person.  Well, then why did they terminate the contract and are they removing the scanners, if the reason was that they couldn't fix the images displayed to not be explicit?

Oh darn.

The problem with these sorts of devices is that they don't prevent circumvention (e.g. bribery.) 

Nor do they prevent people from getting on planes without valid Passports and Visas, which if you remember was the case with the "underwear bomber" that set all of this fury off in the first place.

Nobody has answered the obvious question yet:  How did this jackass get on the plane without valid documents?  How did he get through security in the first instance, and why was the plane cleared into US airspace without verification that all the people on board had valid travel documents when it is a fact that passenger manifests are transmitted to the US Government before the plane is cleared into US airspace?

If you can't be bothered to make sure someone has a document then so-called "physical security" is a joke.

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Kurt Haskell, the eyewitness, made a very very big deal of this.

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Maybe the question should be: Did they ever tell the truth about *ANYTHING*?

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Good point.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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A thorough-going cynic might question whether this contract was fated for the dustbin all along... but not before
{A} the stock rose nicely based on having the contract, and
{B} the 'important people' found bag-holders to offload their stock.

Tully

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I just can't get over the fact they actually had the balls to call it Rapiscan! Why not, call it the Rapemaster 9000?

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My take is they weren't worried about the underwear bomber entering the US because it was a government agent who was the mystery man who saw him on the plane, and they never expected it to land in the US. They expected it to be blown up. Which would have been just as good an excuse for doing what they did anyway.
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Quote:
How did this jackass get on the plane without valid documents?

Apparently some people in suits helped him get him on the plane.

False-flag to make billions in airport security contracts... which most of it... was made by Michael Chertoff.

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asi beat me to it.

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If anybody really believes that a bunch of programmers couldn't draw cartoon figures on top of images on time to meet some Congressional deadline, I've got some swampland for sale...

There are a few TSA lawsuits in the pipeline right now. So far, courts have not dismissed them.

From Freedom Travel:

We had an Amicus Brief accepted in the First Circuit (copy at our website) in the case Redfern, et.al. vs Janet Napolitano. Essentially, we urge the Court to consider a special discovery be done to collect facts about the scanners and the impact to people. The Millimeter Wave (ATR) scanners STILL invade privacy by performing an inch-by-inch search of your body, and the resulting "pat downs" lead to privacy invasions and abuses that "free countries" shouldn't tolerate.

Jon Corbett has a lawsuit in the pipeline as well.

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I always believed they were more interested in finding cash taped to the bodies of people leaving the country.
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Interesting....might be a good time to buy airline stock since many people wouldn't fly with these things installed. Without, I might actually fly again.
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Rapiscan??? Too close to Rapescam for my liking.

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viper wrote..
Interesting....might be a good time to buy airline stock since many people wouldn't fly with these things installed. Without, I might actually fly again.


You're okay with being fingered then?

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of course they lied.

it wasn't an accident that the former head of homeland security happened to have the company that produced those scanners:

http://publicintelligence.net/the-cherto....

ka-ching.

i like this part:
In the summer, TSA purchased 150 machines from Rapiscan with $25 million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds. Rapiscan was the only company that qualified for the contract because it had developed technology that performs the screening using a less-graphic body imaging system, which is also less controversial. (Since then, another company, L-3 Communications, has qualified for future contracts, but no new contracts have been awarded.)

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Same old ****. Alexander Haig bought the company that did vehicle emission testing in Ct and greased the wheels to have this state buy them and install them in 8 centralized locations, run by idiot State workers.* They never worked properly. He didn't give a ****. He made his money. Now we have a new system done at gas stations.


* I watched in utter disbelief as one ****tard hopped out of my 2/3 ton 4x4 pick up, left it in neutral and did not engage the park brake. Yes I watched through the glass window as my truck coasted outside and across the parking lot as ****tard was chasing it.......

back on topic....

So Dual Citizen Chertoff made his millions......same ole' same ole....

Government lies. They have to lie. If the genpop knew the truth about anything they'd (government leech****s) be strung up on the lamp posts...

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note also the CIA connections and (so dems don't feel left out in the TSA ripoff), obama and soros had ties to OSI, but soros sold his shares:
However, once The Examiner reported that George Soros owned the shares of the OSI Systems, Soros coincidentally sold all 11,300 shares of the company.

it IS the same old, same old.

i am so glad that we don't have emissions testing or car inspections here in florida. :)
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About that underwear, we are so lucky that most of these guys are complete morons:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/20....

Stink Bomb: Underwear Bomber Wore Explosive Undies for Weeks, FBI Says

The notorious underwear bomber’s explosives failed to go off during the 2009 Christmas Day plot because he wore the potentially deadly undies for three weeks before trying to detonate them, FBI agents involved in the investigation said.

Two FBI agents told ABC News’ Detroit affiliate WXYZ in an exclusive interview that when the bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, confessed to the plot, he went on to say that he had worn the explosive underwear for three weeks in order to get used to it and make sure he could get it through security.
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On a lesser note--

Not sure if everyone here is familiar with the little security ankle band devices that newborns wear while they are in the hospitals. If a baby with an active device is taken too near a receiving unit by any one of the exit doors from a maternity unit, alarms go off and an infant abduction protocol is initiated. None of the Houston hospitals ever bought one of these systems until we had an alleged incident at a hospital where I was working in L&D at the time. It is hard to know and verify the details because administration locked down discussion.

Apparently, a woman who was getting ready to be dismissed called the desk and reported her baby was missing. There was some story about coming out of the shower and the baby was gone. The baby was located right outside the hospital with another woman who apparently was a current or former low-level employee in the lab. The woman who had taken the baby was supposedly a stranger to the mother. However, the same woman had been seen visiting in the mother's room. The mother was said to have an unusual affect and did not seem to be appropriately upset about her child's abduction or relieved by its return. The nurses were very suspicious that the mother and the baby snatcher were working together to be able to get to either sue the hospital or get the hospital to pay them for their silence. Having babies snatched from the premises is bad for business. Right after that, the ankle sensor security system was purchased for our hospital, then every other hospital in the system, then every single hospital with an OB service in Houston. There were a few whispers that the two women may have been working for someone else. I don't know. However, it was interesting to find a similar "my-baby-disappeared-while-I-was-in-the-shower" story from another state from a couple of years ago accompanied by the news that all was well because the hospital had installed an infant abduction system that works off ankle security devices.
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No more scanners?! Now I can fly on the Dreamliner... smiley

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Some TSA pervert probably took the images home with him after work and pulled his pud to them.

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Karl,

Thanks for bringing this back up today. This event was indeed,a false flag event. However, the "bomb" was never intended to explode as it lacked a detonator. According to explosives experts hired by the prosecution, it was "impossibly defective". The "device" was supplied to Abdulmutallab by an undercover U.S. Government agent. The purpose was to have a failed terrorist attack. Besides being an eyewitness, I spent 2000 hours of my time conducting an investigation into this matter. If anyone has any more questions about this event, feel free to ask. By the way, I read TF almost daily, although I rarely post here. I find TF to be very educational and I enjoy it greatly.
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Or...are they using that as a cover to remove the machines...because .GOV found out that these god-damn scanners are ripping people's DNA apart and there is no way they can pretend its not happening?

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The whole bunch are just an alphabet soup of wrong. Just about every government worker ya meet is screwin somthin up. Why you ask? Because they get paid more to screw it up. They all have a budget to blow. If they cant blow it they will stash it. Its a culture. rant over.

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Thanks for checking in Kurt. I watched the multi video recap Jones did on you and your pursuit of info. It was good but left out some key tidbits that were in your original interviews that never got carried over into the final work. Thanks for exposing what jackasses we have in government.

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