Criminal Roundup, 12/29
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Posted 2012-12-29 20:59
by Karl Denninger
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Criminal Roundup, 12/29
 

In the you know how it is column, we have the following.

First, Eric (Place)Holder received some "unexpected" support from -- you guessed it -- Democrats in Congress, who used the cover the holidays to file the following:

A little-noticed brief filed last Thursday by House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Ranking Member Elijah Cummings and fellow Democrats John Conyers, Jr., Henry A. Waxman, Edolphus Towns and Louise M. Slaughter, asks the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to dismiss without prejudice the civil complaint by the Oversight Committee against Eric Holder following the Attorney General being found in contempt of Congress for refusing to produce subpoenaed documents related to the Fast and Furious gunwalking investigation.

This is, because, well, the chief law enforcement officer of the country shouldn't actually have to obey the law.  That's for us peasants, you see.

Next we have the NY Shooter.  Yes, that one; the wonderful nice guy who shot and killed firefighters -- after lighting a fire on purpose.  The media has been oddly silent about this "mass shooting", and with good reason: This clown did 17 years in prison for killing his 92-year old grandmother with a hammer, and we let him out.

He also left a note saying that he intended to do "what he liked best -- kill people."

That's a fine upstanding citizen for you, and someone who we should let out of prison -- right?  Well, he couldn't buy guns since he was a convicted felon, but that didn't stop him.  Unlike many who simply steal them, however, he got a 24 year old lady to buy them for him!

That's a crime, and she's now been arrested.  Incidentally all the gun stores around here have nice big signs warning you that buying a gun for someone else (and lying on the form) is a criminal offense, so it's rather unlikely she didn't know.

Of course the media is making nice-nice about how this guy was such a "model prisoner."  Yeah, ok.  I guess after clubbing your grandmother to death with a hammer you get extra brownie points for being nice in prison.  Right?

Can we have a discussion about people going to prison for serious offenses then then letting them out unsupervised where they get a second crack at serious crime?  Like, for instance, the jackass in the Tampa area that murdered a Marshal who showed up to serve him some papers? 

He had a penchant for violent crime too -- he had done time for stealing both cars and guns, along with resisting arrest, and after getting out of prison for that he decided he'd like to try his hand at sexual assault.  He was again let out, and this time decided that blasting a law enforcement officer was a good idea. 

Have the lefty liberals ever considered that maybe he was simply one of the few percent of the population that is incapable of living around other people without initiating violence against them? 

You can't have this one both ways folks -- if you're going to play the "compassionate jailer" routine then you have to accept that some reasonably-large percentage of these people will offend again, and sometimes when they do people will die.

Finally, we have the voices in the head thing once more.  This time it appears to have involved the man who was pushed into an oncoming Subway train in NY

Erika Menendez, 31, was charged with second-degree murder as a hate-crime for allegedly pushing Sunando Sen, 46, into a No. 7 train in the Queens borough of New York on the night of Dec. 27, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said today in a statement.

Menendez, who lives in the Bronx, admitted pushing Sen and said she was prompted by the terrorist attacks in 2001, according to Brown. She said “in sum and substance ’I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up,’” according to the district attorney.

I see.  Oh let's not forget this part -- you know, the "muttering and talking to oneself" part:

Menendez was seen talking to herself while seated on a bench at the 40th Street-Lowery Street station and was also observed pacing on the platform and muttering to herself.

"Simple" murder or maybe a bit of psychosis added in there?  Does it really matter?  Not much, and unfortunately there's not a whole lot you can do about this sort of thing.  It would be nice if there was, but the facts don't quite fit all nice and neat with any sort of narrative on that.  Unless the accused had shown signs of being dangerous to others previously I don't know how you prevent someone from expressing a sudden murderous rage in a public place.  Of note is that she didn't need a gun or a knife to shove the victim in a front of an oncoming train.

Speaking of knives....

Look where we're headed.  You know, after they manage to (foolishly) get you to give up your guns.  That's right -- next will be your kitchen knife:

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase – and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

“We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect.”

I will give up my Henckels when they...... oh never mind.

I wish the last was a joke.

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Nuke_engineer
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Elijah Cummings.....isn't he the rocket scientist that claimed that Guam could get overloaded with people then tip and sink into the Pacific ocean?

Team that erudite character up with the genius Waxman and I guess that says it all.

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I used to live in Cummings' district (MD 7), before MD redistricted my old house into MD 2. If you want to see gerrymandering taken to a new level, look at MD's congressional district map. The prior occupant in Cummings' seat was the highly incompetent Kwesi Mfume (aka queasy & fuming). This also goes to show how highly competent the voters are in MD 7.

I also think it is time to introduce legislation to ban the sale of knives and subway cars. Knives are sharp pointy things that are dangerous and have chefs saying they have no useful value. We need to do this to protect the children. Subway cars are becoming an increasing hazard and too many innocent people have been killed by oncoming subway cars. I have ridden on the NYC subway system and it is dangerous and needs to be shut down. /sarc off.

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If they don't like my kitchen knives, they'd probably **** themselves over my machetes.
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China has put knife control in effect.

Source:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news....

Posted on Sun Jan 29 04:50:14 2012 by TigerLikesRooster

Beijing Customers Can Buy Knives Only With ID Card

18:38 28/01/2012

BEIJING, January 28 (RIA Novosti)

Tags: Beijing, China

Customers in large supermarkets of Beijing has to show their ID cards to buy knives from Saturday, Chinese Fachi wanbao newspaper reported.

The requirement to register all knives' buyers has been initiated by city's public security agencies. From now on a customer who wants to buy a knife or any other blade has to tell supermarket's special officer his or her name, ID card number, home address and purposes of knife use.

Supermarkets are prohibited to sell knives to teenagers and people with 'unusual and abnormal' behavior. If such categories of citizens want to buy knives, supermarket managers must call the police.

The requirement has been already in force in city's largest supermarket chains, while owners of small shops in the Chinese capital do not register the customers, the paper said.

The reason to tighten knives sale procedure is unknown. Previously ban on the sale of knives was introduced in Beijing during the celebrations of the 60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China in October 2009.
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Gerrymandering to ensure "minority majority" (or is it majority minority?) districts is a good thing - brought about by the likes of Lani Guinier (nominated by the "centrist" Bill Clinton). Better to have a few idiots who think Guam will tip over (or that N & S Vietnam now exist side-by-side in peace) than to have more libs win election. (I say that even though most of the GOP are dickless wonders.) My own representative is "Chief Keef" Ellison. He wins each time by 40+ points, which allows another 1-2 opponents of Feinstein's gun bill to retain their office as MN GOP congressmen.

I once had the misfortune of watching Angela Davis on our local public TV station rambling on incoherently about the "prison industrial complex". It was almost enought to drive me to murder.
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This Ticker needs but one addition............A definition of the term 'slippery slope' and how it relates to the banning of SOME guns ( and how it might lead to the possible banning of knives or Q-Tips or , or , or.............)

You just couldnt , under any circumstances , make up **** as silly as this.
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The Guam tipping over was Hank Johnson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVX....

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That knife story links back to May of 2005. Any reason it's coming up now? Is it being formally proposed?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/458187....

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The Guam tipping over was Hank Johnson.


Thanks for the correction. I stand corrected. I usually want to be prompt and give credit when I'm in error, unlike others.

I was working off my memory and this guy seemed to trigger my memory with the Guam story for some reason.

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Wow, a hate crime murder charge against the subway nutjob. They must be serious.
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The oligarchs have made a mockery of 'rule of law'. Whenever a team member gets his **** caught in the wringer his friends in power all jump though hoops and barrels to sabotage the justice system so as to circumvent accountability. I noticed that King Obama's legal team is taking court action to quash Sibley's Electoral College subpeona to obtain and make public certain information pertaining to King Obama's birth certificate. The King and Eric Holder are pretty much insulated from accountability, just as David Gregory will likely be as long as his Meet the Press interview puts our King is a favorable light.

As far as prisons go, as long as the inmate is part of a certain social class it's not a bad place to get a start in life. 3 hots and a cot, free medical, free college education, free organized sports programs, and in some of the liberal states once released the inmate gets a free government 'life coach' to help him find a job and/or apply for public assistance. In California the taxpayers spend about $50,000 a year to sustain one inmate in the state system. They live better than a lot of law-abiding folks who struggle in the difficult economy on the outside.

When they are released after serving time for heinous crimes and get tired with life outside the prison structure committing more crimes until they are caught again provides yet another option to get a free trip to go back and see their homies. And since it's unconstitutional to make them work in prison - it's all good.

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Karl, this is getting me*****ed off. Think it is time for a huge garbage disposal to dunk a few of these idiots. Ban kitchen knives? Think it might be time to accept murder as a natural cause of death or we won't be able to have anything of use. Otherwise we might starve to death for lack of a fork.

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That's enough, I have had it, and now I am going to do something about violent crime:

I am going to round up ALL of my hammers and put them in my gun safe!

There, now I feel safe!
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And since it's unconstitutional to make them work in prison ...


atcually it's just against union rules...
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The 27th amendment says that a pay raise for Congress can't take effect until after an election is held.

How does Obama get to grant raises effective next year?

Could it be that Obama is trying to get the idea across that bending to his will on the fiscal cliff will result in a larger pay raise?
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"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

That's hilarious. The ultimate nanny state. Next, only kindergarten scissors with rounded ends will be allowed. I wonder how they'll come up with a non-lethal ice pick.

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The 27th amendment says that a pay raise for Congress can't take effect until after an election is held.


Obama decreed it so through EO.

EO's apparently trump EVERYTHING since no one questions them.

It's good to be King.

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Wait, don't we pay government employees to travel the world to look at subway systems? Wasn't Obama saying "How come we can't have a train like..." But we can't figure out how to make a train match up to automatic doors? Must be a union rule somewhere.

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A fundamental of management is authority derives from the position and not the person who occupies it and power derives from authority.

If we elect unqualified people who swear an oath to a God they don't believe exists and expect them to follow documents that derive authority from the same God, how can we realistically expect any other result than what we are getting?

What makes matters worse is these unqualified people use the authority of their positions to appoint unelected and even less qualified people to write unconstitutional policy that is enforced from a point of a gun.

Organized criminals have stolen our country and half the citizenry are complicit.

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More "executive order" paranoia. You do realize Congress authorizes these things and the executive order is just Obama's way of telling you he's implementing them, right?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

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(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, any statutory pay adjustment (as defined in section 147(b)(2) of the Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Public Law 111-242)) otherwise scheduled to take effect during fiscal year 2013 but prior to the date specified in section 106(3) of this joint resolution may take effect on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning after the date specified in section 106(3).
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How long before the standard camping hatchet becomes an "assault weapon". Hell, why not just outline those "manicure" parlors. After all someone might get scratched.

I suppose they'll be coming for the khukuris and battle knives and swords next. At least I can remove an arm with those things. They'll never be able to use that hand again for grabbing. There will not be a strike 3.


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Had to drag God in didn't you, Alex? A mere oath to the Constitution is not enough, because it can't consign you to eternal fiery punishment. Perhaps the oath to God is easily ignored because nobody believes the fiery torment crap but a few who still believe the Astarte Bunny brings candy eggs.

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Don't you just love the "experts" that they consult on these issues. They decided to ask some chefs if these knives were really needed in the kitchen. These bastards didn't write the Constitution or Bill of Rights.

The last thing I want is advice from some sissified New York, California, or other chef telling me what I should be allowed to keep in my kitchen. Most of these pussies have NEVER spent time on a home farm where animals must be slaughtered for survival. They have no concept of real life tools for American Kitchens.



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