I agree! Plus those evil subway trains look so militaristic.
Ban them!

The BLET (Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen)
have blood on their hands! They are killing innocent people!
They must be stopped!!!!

http://www.ble-t.org/

The logic and common sense skills seem to have disappeared from the anti-gun crowd. I've said it before...I'll say it again. The "tool" with which someone chooses to murder another does not matter. It can be a gun, a knife, a bowling ball, a 9 iron, a flashlight, a piece of rope, a can of gasoline & matches, and apparently a train, etc. It is the person who chooses to commit murder that should be registered & locked up, not the tool with which they choose to commit the crime.

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“I don’t think this is something that can be solved by spending more money in the subway system.”

I was on a subway in Paris that has the entire platform glassed off from the tracks...the doors on the automated (completely unmanned) train line up to the doors in the glass and then they both open. So, in theory, it could be "prevented" that somebody would be pushed into the subway with enough money...but they'd just find another way to kill people then...the "voices" would just say something different.

I travel the 7 train everyday, on myway to the Long Island Rail Road.

Half the people on that line could or should be diagnosed with something...

BY the way.. That is the same line that John Rocker got balckballed for bitching about. In all honesty..... He wasn't that far off....

How awful--someone drenched an old homeless lady here and lit her on fire yesterday. She's in critical. Better ban kerosene and matches.

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• Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named trains;
Certain other trains that can allow any person within 2500 feet of a track in which a train will travel; and
Trains with a fixed engine that can accept more than 10 passengers.
• Strengthens the 1994 Stupid laws passed by the elected retards and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
Eliminating the easy-to-remove caboose from the characteristics test; and
Banning trains with “windows” and “doors” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
• Bans large-capacity passenger platform devices capable of accepting more than 10 passengers.
• Protects legitimate travelers and the rights of elected officials by:
Grandfathering trains legally possessed on the date of enactment;
Exempting over 900 specifically-named trains used for carnivals and Disney Land; and
Exempting subways trains which install solar panels, and permanently disabled trains.
Requires that grandfathered trains be registered under the National Trains Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the train;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for NTSB to implement registration.

actually, mpilar, they have those "Platform Screen Doors" on the new metro they are building in PAKISTAN!!!

why NY metro doesn't install "platform screen doors" (actually unbreakable glass with automatic sliding doors also made of unbreakable glass). is beyond me. actually, i know why, they are ****ing retards and probably can't coordinate them with the train stops.

We have them in the UAE as well and they very work well. (actually, the metro in Dubai is totally awesome and even has a first class section).

Otherwise, if you want to ride the rails in NYC, maintain a heightened sense of situational awareness and keep the iphone out of your head or you might require the i-oh-****-there-is-a-train-crushing-my head app.

Not for nothing, but I've never been on a platform in the NYC subway system where my phone actually worked. This is one of the major reasons i keep my back to a wall whenever I can.

no one needs subways

Lowbeyond you're a Luddite? ;-) Or you get around on skis?
We need more high speed rail, less cars, but if this government builds it it will be
2-3-4-5 times over the original estimate and the end of the line may just be a cliff (missed that!)

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We need more high speed rail, less cars,

Why?

So far CA has spent 600 million on the high speed rail and nothing has started.

It was originally estimated (in 2008!) to cost 10 billion, but since that time, (according to the OC Registrar) the cost has escalated by 90 percent to 115 percent (inflation adjusted), to between $98 billion and $117 billion.

Call in private industry please and get the state out of the way. If someone wants this then they can pay for it and get the money back in the cost to hop on the train. I'd get on it often. It is difficult to get from southern california to up north. To drive you have to go through a wasteland. LONG long drive past cattle Auschwitz, which smells lovely, or fly.

A high speed train would be great. But do you realize the cost is now estimated at more than most countries have GDP?

Johnny, some of us don't live in Kentucky. No horses either.

There is absolutely no Civilian use for these trains. They are designed and produced solely for the transport of Troops, and should only be in the hands of the military. (/sarc)

Here's a clue for NYC Metro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_ed....

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Johnny, some of us don't live in Kentucky. No horses either.

But you want me to pay for it?

That's the one I was thinking of!


Nice setup...always wondered why they didn't do this in Prague, it seems a weekly occurrence of somebody landing on the tracks, either drunk, pushed, slipped, etc...

No of course not. Read my post. Please, keep your money. You earned it, you keep it.

Mpilar, why can't we do things like that? You know what: In NY the electrical system in the subways is mostly from around the turn of the century. During Sandy the exposed wires got wet.

I wanted to post and say: When I see your "favorite STD" thing I think that there are some STDs better than others, so you can pick. For example, if you catch syphilis in the early stages it's one clean shot of cheap penicillin (but it's intramuscular, ouch) OR even better you can treat chlamydia and gonorrhea with one large dose of an oral medication.

On the other hand if you get genital warts from HPV it's lousy, no cure, and herpes has to be chronically suppressed and if you get stressed out they come. So you see there are ones that are better than others.

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In NY the electrical system in the subways is mostly from around the turn of the century.

So? Paris's first metro opened in 1900 and the bulk of the lines were completed in 1920.

Regarding the STD comments...remember, it's wise not to get ANY STD if it can be avoided. If there are only two chicks left on the planet, one with syphilis and the other with herpes...I always have my hand. :)

I think the tool does indeed matter. It has to do with efficiency and effectiveness. If cans of gasoline and subways were such great weapons, our military would be armed with them.

So if any tool can be misused, the harm that misuse can cause is not equal across all tools. What if the subway pusher used instead an AR-15? One victim versus multiple victims.

There are no easy answers. And there are always trade offs.

what if he used an ar-15 to push the guy into the subway ?

They need to ban the high-capacity trains, and only allow train cars with 10 or fewer people. And the trains need to run at 3mph in order to give people a chance to get out of the way if they end up on the tracks.