Wait? Banksters ARRESTED?
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Posted 2012-12-14 07:01
by Karl Denninger
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Wait? Banksters ARRESTED?
 

Oh no, not in the United States..... in Germany

Four Deutsche Bank AG (DBK) employees arrested on allegations of obstruction of justice and money laundering were ordered to remain in custody while the investigation is pending.

The fifth suspect arrested yesterday was released because of health issues, Guenter Wittig, a spokesman for the Frankfurt General Prosecutor, said by phone today. He declined to explain the court’s ruling or identify any suspects.

The case is part of a criminal probe over tax-evasion allegations linked to the sale of carbon-emission certificates in which prosecutors are investigating a total of 25 people at Deutsche Bank. The lender’s German offices were raided yesterday and Co-Chief Executive Officer Juergen Fitschen and Chief Financial Officer Stefan Krause, who weren’t arrested, are subjects of the probe.

Criminal probe?  You mean, like jailtime?  Bubba dates? 

This is serious and not something out of The Onion?

It appears so.

It looks like this isn't a bunch of underlings either -- the co-CEO and CFO are subjects of the probe, although they have not (yet) been charged.

If you remember there were raids on offices a couple of years ago.  I, along with everyone else, assumed that the odds of an actual prosecution were slim and none, and slim left the building.  After all, that's been the pattern since 2007 -- it literally doesn't matter what was done, the worst that is ever assessed is a fine -- which the bank can (and does) then pass onto customers and shareholders, neither of which did anything wrong.

This bears watching -- especially if it manages to reach all the way up into the executive suite and tag some of the highest-ranking corporate officers.

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From what I've seen governments do so far, when they start arresting bankers, it will probably be the ones "making trouble" for the policy makers, not the ones we citizens want to see in jail.

Carbon credit arrests? That's not the guys I want booked.
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Thanks Karl! I just passed the link along to some friends with the subject line: Early Christmas Present?


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Carbon credits. The intersection of green idealogy and financial greed coming together to further ripoff the working class.
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Quote:
which the bank can (and does) then pass onto customers and shareholders, neither of which did anything wrong.

Being customers and shareholders of these big banks is doing something wrong.

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This is probably a threat to extract fines so big they need the scare of jail to extract them.
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This report says it all

Report: Cronyism, political donations likely behind Obama, Holder failure to charge any bankers after 2008 financial meltdown

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/report....


Another big bail out for the banks on the way? The banks are facing a bunch of new lawsuits and Obama wants to get rid of DeMarco because he actually made them pay some. His making home affordable really only helped the banks with more taxpayer dollars since most of the people who got that still defaulted anyway now he is pushing for more.

Obama administration launches housing PSA

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/....

Donovan: Taxpayer bailout option still in play for FHA

http://bankcreditnews.com/news/donovan-t....

Mortgage Crisis Presents a New Reckoning to Banks

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/busine....

Insight: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac clamping down on banks

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/1....

Is Obama Getting Rid of the FHFA’s Ed DeMarco to Bail Out the Banks?

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/i....

Time to Kill HAMP

President Obama’s beloved foreclosure-prevention scheme, the Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP), was a fraud from Day One: It is designed to do nothing but camouflage the effects of the housing meltdown. It is based on bribery — paying the banks to modify (or pretend to consider modifying) mortgages that they really had no business or interest in modifying.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/2....


Unlimited credit for GSEs seen as backdoor bailouts

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And Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, called it "a continuation of the bailout policies that have mortgaged away the future solvency of our country."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/0....

Obama's Budget Has One Small, Missing Piece.... For $6.3 Trillion Dollars

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/obamas-....

Corporate Crime, Russia, Peter Orszag and Getting Away with Murder

http://corporatecrimereporter.com/morgen....

Barack’s Wall Street Problem is Now America’s

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4939/ba....
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Germans applying justice, eh?

I don't expect this expect this to become contagious or to spread across the ocean.

Probably malcontents who bitched about the Greek bailouts.

Money laundering afterall is the latest and greatest way to beat quarterly earnings without a bailout.

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+1 Bagbalm
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My cousin recently moved to Germany, he loves it there. Sold all his California holdings.

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What Atlasrocked said, tax evasion. Stealing taxpayer money is okay. Stealing money already earmarked for the gov't is not.
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Perhaps once Obama signs the executive order paving the way for 'comprehensive immigration reform',aka amnesty, in 2013 the banksters can finally invite the cartel drug lords from south from the border and appoint them to their respective Board of Directors. If they are an intrical part of the corporate profit machine they certainly deserve due recognition/sarc.

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Wearedoomed - Perfect Dude, just perfect. However, the scene is not Deutsche Bank in Germany, it is HSBC in the U.S. One might infer that money, big money, has more control here in the U.S. than it does in Germany.

Karl, let's follow this story. You know they likely have threatened the end of the world, Mayan calendar and all that.

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Can we send Corzine to Germany?
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Looks like the govt only got upset about the fact they weren't getting their cut.

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Agau I wish but he's protected by obama

Why Can't Obama Bring Wall Street to Justice?

Obama came into office vowing to end business as usual, and, in the gray post-crash dawn of 2009, nowhere did a reckoning with justice seem more due than in the financial sector. The public was shaken, and angry, and Wall Street seemed oblivious to its own culpability, defending extravagant pay bonuses even while accepting a taxpayer bailout. Obama channeled this anger, and employed its rhetoric, blaming the worldwide economic collapse on "the reckless speculation of bankers." Two months into his presidency, Obama summoned the titans of finance to the White House, where he told them, "My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks."

The bankers may have found the president's tone unsettling. Candidate Obama had been their guy, accepting vast amounts of Wall Street campaign money for his victories over Hillary Clinton and John McCain (Goldman Sachs executives ponied up $1 million, more than any other private source of funding in 2008). Obama far outraised his Republican rival, John McCain, on Wall Street--around $16 million to $9 million. As it turned out, Obama apparently actually meant what he said at that White House meeting--his administration effectively would stand between Big Finance and anything like a severe accounting.

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What is $1 million in donations for a presidential campaign? Something like 1%?

I agree that politicians are bought, and want to point out that they are cheaply bought.

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