PPI: -0.8% (!)
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Posted 2012-12-13 09:19
by Karl Denninger
in Macro Factors
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PPI: -0.8% (!)
 

Where did that come from?

The Producer Price Index for finished goods fell 0.8 percent in November, seasonally adjusted, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Prices for finished goods decreased 0.2 percent in October and rose 1.1 percent in September. At the earlier stages of processing, prices received by manufacturers of intermediate goods declined 1.2 percent in November, and the crude goods index edged up 0.1 percent. On an unadjusted basis, the finished goods index advanced 1.5 percent for the 12 months ended November 2012, the smallest increase since a 0.5-percent rise for the 12 months ended July 2012. (See table A.)

Ah, a look inside tells the tale -- the bottom line is that it's all energy.  Foods were up 1.%; ex-food and energy the index was up 0.1%, or basically flat.

Of course nobody actually eats anything, right?

Within the internals trend shifts are evident in energy prices, which is good (they're coming down) but the paradox is that this usually signals internal economic weakness

The interesting internal trend here is the compression of margins in the food category, which now has been going on since July.  This too is an indicator of economic weakness.

There's nothing that stands out in this report, other than those two markers -- but they are simply further confirmation of the regional fed indices that I've been warning about since the summer.

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I eat nothing except Karl's tickers--the best sustenance there is. :)
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sure, giant pickup trucks and giant screen tv's, are down, and that's just what senoirs on fixed income are buying in droves......

Medicare premiums just went up ,
my medicare supplement just went uo 20%,
and the industry is already salivating over post-Sandy hikes.

have you priced an automobile tire lately, or a gallon of antifreeze or motor oil?

In Vietnam era we were surprised at the lying out of executive branch but now it's everywhere and expected.

today i am totally cynical about all of government and its joint owners, the finance & insurance industries.

John McCain did a great favor for history when he picked Sara Palin - he demonstrated just how abjectly terrified both parties are of an honest person.

A house built of rotted timbers cannot stand. Let it collapse.

sorry to be so pessimistic - just it gets me down sometimes.

I guess there's one bright spot - John Roberts' remark ' it's not the duty of the court to protect the people from bad political choices'....

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I've added Ipads, Flatscreens and Tablet PCs to our menu and we're saving a ****-load of money!

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Do I detect a bit of cynicism there Analog??? smiley

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PPI dropping with Fed at $85 Bil a month in QE means there is no reason to believe it won't continue dropping since QE at that level will continue.

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Well, Mayor, the 85 hasn't started yet. Up until YE if I understand correctly, the 40 (45?) of operation twist shouldn't have had much inflationary effect.

Is it wrong to pray devoutly that Bernanke gets eaten by zombies?

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It has been $85 Bil since September I believe (but could be mistaken) - Twist ends (or did end) end of year and they added new open ended buys starting in sept.

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