HP Gets Cobbed
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Posted 2012-11-20 08:41
by Karl Denninger
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HP Gets Cobbed
 

Oh look, if it was good enough for the housing industry it's good enough for Autonomy!

Following the completion of its annual review of its goodwill and purchased intangible assets for impairment, on November 20, 2012, HP announced that it recorded a non-cash charge for the impairment of goodwill and intangible assets within its Software segment of approximately $8.8 billion in the fourth quarter of its 2012 fiscal year.  The majority of this impairment charge relates to accounting improprieties and disclosure failures at Autonomy Corporation plc (“Autonomy”) that occurred prior to HP’s acquisition of Autonomy, misrepresentations made to HP in connection with its acquisition of Autonomy, and the impact of those improprieties, failures and misrepresentations on the expected future financial performance of the Autonomy business over the long-term. The balance of the impairment charge relates to the recent trading value of HP stock.  HP does not expect the impairment charge to result in any future cash expenditures.

Misrepresentations eh?  That's fraud, right?

Note that HP paid something like $10 billion for the company, which means they bought something that they now say is something like more than 50% overvalued on a cash basis and the rest is the goodwill impairment, which makes the whole somewhere over an 80% loss of value!

That sounds a lot like a steroid-driven version of "seller down payment assistance" and other various related schemes in the housing industry -- but there, you see, it's (mostly) legal.

It shouldn't be -- anywhere.

Why not?  Because transactions in which the price of something is intentionally overstated through machinations such as this distort the market.  If the true economic value of the transaction is not reported then others who are viewing the transaction in the marketplace are deceived as to the exchange of value that took place, and this leads them to believe that value was exchanged when in fact it was not. 

Frauds of this sort are not simply that the someone (in this case it is alleged HP) gets rooked in their transaction, it is also the systemic effects that a false transaction stream has when it takes place in the public view in that it inflates third party's views of what's going on in that marketplace, and thus defrauds those third parties as well.

If I was hearing the reports correctly in my non-coffee-addled daze this morning the allegation is that the company was basically self-dealing in that it was providing funds to "customers" who then bought from the company.  From Faber's reporting:  "Apparently the company was selling computer hardware ... at a loss.... and treated much of the cost of those sales as marketing expenses....  had given money to VARs to buy the product."

See, just like seller-provided "down payment assistance"!

Oops....

HP (NYSE: HPQ) is off ~10% this morning.

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With the explosion in vendor financing, aren't pretty much all the big guys potentially on the hook for this? EMC, Cisco, etc?

Not limited to the tech market either - some of my local furniture stores are offering 0%, no payments for 2 years on a house-full of furniture.

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Fraud? What's that?

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Replacement refs could have done better due diligence!

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If the fraud and misrepresentation is that substantial, shouldn't they unwind the entire deal?

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Boy oh boy, HPQ with an $11 handle. Maybe we're looking at the Xerox of the 21st century here.

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Does anyone recognize the movie in JStanley's post?

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IMO, the purpose of "due diligence" is for the prospective purchaser to verify that the parameters of the transaction as represented by the seller are truly correct. Obviously, HP's "due diligence" wasn't as thorough as they would have liked.

Is it reasonable to expect normal due diligence prior to such an acquisition to be able to uncover such frauds, or do you believe that HP was just "sloppy" and incompetent in this matter?

Obviously, even if HP was "sloppy" in its due diligence, that still doesn't excuse the fraud and the perpetrators thereof should be asset-stripped and given a long stay at the greybar hotel.

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Appropriate diligence should uncover something like this, yes.

It appears the Board relied on the "audited financials" rather than directing an appropriate investigation on their own, and that their so-called "investment bankers" didn't do THEIR job either.

I suspect the engagement agreement with the M&A guys shield them from intentional acts of the acquired company (that is, willful concealment) and as such their hit will be reputational rather than financial, but I could be wrong there. The auditors, on the other hand, may have a problem here, as this sort of thing should be caught by a routine (and proper) audit, especially when it's at this level of magnitude.

Some amount of cooking can be gotten away with but not at this level of magnitude -- if anyone's paying attention.

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I think the auditors these days are dirtier than the ratings agencies across the board. I would not be surprised if tons of fraud is being committed daily at the very tops of those accounting firms.

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Oh I'm sure the execs in this deal on all sides got PAID handsomely. Just like with Hostess. The entire executive branch at the corporate and political levels consists of nothing but gypsy style hucksters whose only goal is to loot the host at the expense of the rest of us. And everyone stands around bitching about unions and food stamp recipients instead.

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The fraud and lies are only allowed to continue because the people allow it. Either through apathy or ignorance, they still allow it.

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J0nx wrote..
And everyone stands around bitching about unions and food stamp recipients instead.
Sheer and utter BS, J0nx.

TF & TFers in general have consistently decried the all-too-prevalent idiocy, criminality, and/or fraud among politicians, banksters, regulators, and business execs. Just because the idiocy, criminality, and/or fraud by unions and welfare recipients is also pointed out whenever it becomes apparent is no reason for you to make such an accusation.

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I don't Recall blaming you or anyone else for doing that. Everyone meaning most people on forums. You feeling guilty about something?

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Quote:
"Apparently the company was selling computer hardware ... at a loss.... and treated much of the cost of those sales as marketing expenses....


Thank you for this accounting trick.

Now that's how to do redistribution.

Spend it or it gets taxed!!

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Quick - somebody give that woman $100 million!

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Heh Meg.

Go **** yourself.

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The whole HP board should be fired. They have had the worst CEOs ever.

1) Carly Fiorina - horrible decision to buy Compaq, fired hundreds of engineers, took home $100 million(?) upon being fired.
2) Mark Hurd - spent I think a few months as CEO, had an affair - also got some kind of buyout.
3)Leo Apotheker - overpaid for Autonomy among many mistakes
4)Meg Whitman - disaster in progress

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Fine then. Make it $80 million.

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video in goforbroke: Whitman voted for this buy?!?!? She relied on audited statements and management recommendations? Do governing boards ever look at what they're being fed and yell "rubbish?" If a board member (like Meg admitted she did) is just going to look at a CEO recommend and the auditor he hired, WTF good are they?

We just had a case like this in the county. The local Head Start board discovered it overran its budget by a million and a half, right after the management hired CPA pronounced them running a surplus. It turns out the Treasurer is a graphics designer fresh out of kollij. That cash flow into the payroll checking account is a beeotch and it's rather difficult to fake deposit slips.

What good are audits and CPAs anyway? I guess the most important job of a board member and CPA is to be liked by the CEO. They're just echo chambers and lap dogs.

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a lot of these M&A's have a team pushing the deal through without doing the proper due diligence, because they get bonuses on completion. So its no wonder this kind of crap happens.

I usually ignore auditor's reports, they aint worth jack. Occasionally you get a good internal audit function, but that only happens when a strong personality is appointed at its head and he has the balls to stand up to management (and they dont have the balls to fire him).
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I believe this company was bought before Whitman took over. Clearly they had their head up their ass when they bought Compaq. Compaq had their heads up their ass when they bought Digital. Sounds like a bunch of buddy deals.

Can anyone tell me how you buy something for $10 billion without doing due diligence? There has to be a balance sheet and an income statement and figures as to how both were created. Unless the accountants and auditors failed to do their job, this was lying on the plate for all to see. You would think after NT, LU and others at the top of the tech bubble, this would be a prime concern in accounting and business practices. It leads me to question, was the mistake intentional?

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Whitman, I believe, was on the board at the time and voted for the deal.

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