From The Bizarro Page: McAffee
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Posted 2012-11-13 08:59
by Karl Denninger
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There's a lesson in here somewhere, but I'm not quite sure what it is, other than "beware drugs":

John McAfee, the security software pioneer, is wanted for questioning by police in Belize in connection with the weekend murder of his neighbor, an American expatriate, Belize police said Monday.

A Belize National Security Ministry spokesman said it was too early to call Mr. McAfee a suspect in the weekend shooting death of Gregory Faull, the expatriate, but "if his story does not add up, he may be arrested and charged."

John was one of the early "pioneers" in anti-virus software and similar.  I never was much of a fan of the firm's packages, considering them to be one of the bigger bloat and scareware names in the space.

But the fact remains that he got out while the getting was pretty good in the mid 1990s and ultimately walked off with $100 million.  Not bad.

The 2008/09 crash, plus a rather amusing spate of "let's blow money", however, left him with less than many others who started with far less but kept most of it.  Last estimates were that he was down to $4 million, which is a non-trivial sum, especially for a guy living in Belize where the per-capita income is at a level that a million or so makes you a near-DemiGod.  Nonetheless to go from $100 million to $4 million is quite the blow.

There are myriad reports, however, that along with McAffee's rather eccentric tastes came a desire to abuse drugs, including of late the notorious "bath salts" (!!)  I cannot source that with any sort of reliability, but if so it might explain what looks like a murder that may have no connection to anything other than drug-induced psychosis.

Or maybe not.

In any event the cops in Belize are seeking him and his neighbor is factually dead with an extra hole in his cranium, so somewhere someone apparently shot him.

Let's hope it wasn't John.

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I hope he didn't ingest any body parts...

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I don't care if it's John or not. Simple fact is someone's dead. May the factually guilty party be prosecuted and pay the consequences.

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Re: the bath salts. Below is a link to the thread where someone called "stuffmonger" talks extensively about his experiments with the substances, his research into bacterial Quorum Sensing, and shows some photos of his jungle lab.

There's also this quote: "My name is John, and my main focus is the effect of medicinal tropical plants on bacteria, and vice versa. I don't need to tell you my exact location, because it doesn't really matter... I do research on the chemical signaling molecules that all bacteria use to upregulate gene expressions."

So I think that's fairly strong circumstantial evidence that the 'stuffmonger' person who admits to experimenting with substances like "Ultimate Sextacy" is probably John McAfee.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/54162....

Even the handle "stuffmonger" seems to fit with the quotes from this ABC piece about having less of a desire for material things:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id....

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Remember the whole Reiser hullabulloo a few years back? Beware eccentric nerds with time and money on their hands. :-) Sadly, it was the effective doom of ReiserFS - I doubt this will be the end of McAfee however.

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Now he's running from police and reporting his status to a reporter from Wired: http://twitchy.com/2012/11/13/wired-repo....

Here's the story complete with some Kurtz-like photos of McAfee wielding a shotgun in the jungle:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11....

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i read about this a while ago, the story was that he wouldn't contribute "political donations" to the local police chief and it's a stitch up job against him.

http://edition.channel5belize.com/archiv....

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Well if that's true then it's a lesson for anyone thinking about becoming an ExPat..... I've often noted that when you're "the gringo" it's really, really easy to wind up in a situation where all that money you think you have is worth exactly nothing as you're seen more as food than anything else.

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One of the first comments on the wired link I posted is someone mentioning how Belize manipulates ExPats into investing their money in the country and then changes the rules of the game on them once they get there. Not too surprising, but unsettling for sure.

I went to San Pedro for the first time last May on a dive trip, and there are a lot of businesses and condos for sale, targeted at foreigners, so I guess it's big business for them.

I did enjoy the town and the trip though. Decent diving in a very relaxed (almost primitive) beach environment. Just not making any plans to live there or start researching bath salts in the jungle, lol!

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So bug out and look REALLY poor... Got it!

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Holy ****.. anyone see this yet? http://gizmodo.com/5960138/the-crazy-sec....

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In September of this year, McAfee published a diary in three parts of his recent "adventures" in Belize on a private message board, where he described how his life had been transformed—and according to McAfee, threatened—over the last two years by corruption in government both local and national, as well as his taking on of a personal harem of local women. One woman, "Amber Smith," according to McAfee, was an assassin. He called the story "Darkness Falls."

Here is McAfee's story, in his own words. Names of non-public figures have been changed, and identifying details redacted.

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Sounds like he and Chuck Barris could be long lost soul mates.

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McAfee is currently on the run from the police. “Under no circumstances am I going to willingly talk to the police in this country,” he told me this afternoon. “You can say I’m paranoid about it but they will kill me, there is no question. They’ve been trying to get me for months. They want to silence me. I am not well liked by the prime minister. I am just a thorn in everybody’s side.”

Nonetheless, McAfee insists he has no plans to leave the country. “I like it here,” he says. “It’s the nicest place on earth.”
Uh, the words "bat**** crazy" come to mind.

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Holy **** is right Jeff-T. I just read that. What a circus.....but it sure looks like he's gettin' some serious clam down there in Belize. Good on him if he can stay above ground for much longer.

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Belize may not be the best tax haven.
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Used to be.....British colony....used to be quite the gathering ground for British expats of the intelligence community types..... before the banksters clamped down.

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Ladies and Gentlemen.. the official Blog of John McAfee

http://www.whoismcafee.com/

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With lots of time on my hands and very little to do with it, I’ve been reflecting on the recent detour my life has taken. How did I end up as a murder suspect on the lam?

The world press certainly has not helped. Autonomous and self-serving, the press does what it does best – sensationalize. And my character and the recent events of my life have been sensationalized to the max.



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It looks like John McAffee has moved to Portland.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-29632....

He's going to fit right in. smiley
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