The "New Normal" In Pictures
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Posted 2012-11-10 15:55
by Karl Denninger
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The "New Normal" In Pictures
 

Some ugly facts for your Saturday....

From 1990 to 2000 GDP expanded at an average rate of 4.80%.  Debt expanded at an average rate of 7.51%

From 2000 to 2010 GDP expanded at an average rate of 4.13%.  Debt expanded at an average rate of 6.55%.

From 2010 to 2Q 2012 GDP expanded at a rate of 3.93%.  But debt expanded at only 0.94%, which is a massive paradigm shift from the previous 20 years.

This is good instead of bad, right?

In a word, no.  It is signaling the end of the self-delusional game we've been running for the last three decades.  That endpoint is here, now and today.

Real economic growth has to subtract out government deficit spending. When you do that it looks like this:

There has been no growth of materiality since 2000.  We cheated.  And we cheated before too, but in the private sector with all the Internet scam companies that blew up in the tech wreck.

And by the way, at current run rates (although the numbers are not in yet) this year in terms of actual deficit and actual adjusted GDP will be almost identical to 2011, unless something dramatic changes in the next two months.

We have a grown a few things though.  First, let's look at the growth in Federal (only) health spending.  This is what we've done thus far (smoothed, using the endpoints -- $53 billion in 1980 and $850 billion last year.)

And then there's what that rate projects out to for the next 35 years, which is what the government has promised all those who are 50 and older -- your Medicare will not change if you're 50 or older -- remember?

Best of luck with that, Kemosabe; roughly $16 trillion on federal health spending alone in 2043?  smiley

By the way, for the math-challenged by 2029 we will spend more on health care than the entire federal budget is today.  If you believe that can happen, say much less that 2043 will happen, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.  The foundation might have had a bit of trouble of late though.  I think it was called "Sandy".  Heh, that works, doesn't it?

Of course we've all heard that the economy is recovering since early 2009.  That recovery must be real because this statistic is just skyrocketing -- the number of people (and households) on food stamps.  Uh, if the economy is recovering, why does this number keep going up and why has it gone up by more than 50% in the last four years -- and has never gone back down?

That must be because the fine government people and "eCONomists" are all lying to you.  Let's see if we can find the lies.

We'll begin with employment.  We keep hearing that we're gaining jobs.  This is half-true.  We have in fact added 7.2 million jobs from January 2010 (which was the low point) to today.

Unfortunately we also added 7.15 million working-age people during the same time period.  So in point of fact, we added jobs -- all 50,000 of them, when you account for working-age population growth.

Eh, that's not so good, and nobody wants to talk about that.

Of course during the same time gasoline prices have roughly doubled, and most food items are up dramatically in price -- 50% or more.  Milk, eggs, cheese, meats.  I wonder if that would force people onto food stamps -- stagnant employment and outrageously-rising costs. 

It just might!

Why is that happening?  Well that might be due to the Federal Budget.  Ok, ok, it's not really a budget because they didn't pass one.  But this is where we're spending our money, and where we're taking in money in taxes -- and what we're putting on the credit card.  I ordered a few things to point out that we must pay the interest, we must pay "General Government" (that's the light bill for the Capitol, among other important things) and we probably want to pay for things like the Fibbies (various federal law enforcement entities and their infrastructure.)  It's also important to keep in mind the size of those shards of the budget, so when someone says "but the FBI and government is so wasteful on such programs" you can point to exactly how much we would "save" if we stopped doing all of it

That is, not enough to matter.

 by genesis

So if we were to stop deficit spending today we could pay the interest on the debt, we could pay for the lights in the White House, we could pay for the FBI and similar, we could pay for Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. 

But then we run out of money half-way through Defense and have nothing for Welfare, Other spending, Education or Transportation. 

Zip, zero, nada.

There's this little problem with that chart too which explains all of the above with employment and food stamps, along with the other markers of actual economic health.  That nasty red bar with the label "Debt", and which both sides of the aisle claim we can continue to add onto every year, is actually dilution of the nation's wealth.  This is exactly identical to imposing a tax, and it's over a trillion dollars annually.  In point of fact from 2008 to 2012 (calendar) it has been $1.40 trillion, $1.647 trillion, $1.852 trillion, $1.225 trillion and at the current (10 month) run-rate for 2012 it will be $1.246 trillion this year.

Remember, President Obama, when he took office, told us all that he would cut the deficit in half from the fiscal 2008 level, which was about $600 billion, by the time he came up for re-election.

He instead more than doubled the annual deficit and added about $5 trillion in debt across his first term.

And let's not forget that this is not just a Democrat thing.  Oh no -- all spending bills must originate in The House.  Without the House there is no spending and there is no deficit.  And who controls The House?  Why that would be Mr. Speaker Boehner, and I do think he has an "R" after his name.  Despite all the screaming about "fiscal responsibility" he (and Paul Ryan) are abject liars; when push comes to shove they are all more than happy to shove all right -- they shove you, your children and every senior citizen right into the hole right along with help from Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

But that's not the bad news.  The bad news is that at the rate of escalation going on today we will try to do this by the end of the decade:

 by genesis

Now that is just not going to work at all; we'll pay that light bill, the Fibbies and Health Care but then will run out of money about halfway through Social Security, at which point the FBI will have plenty to do as Granny's shotgun comes out.

So as you go about your weekend, contemplate these facts:

  • You can't fix medical entitlement spending.  You instead have to fix the medical system, and the only way to do that is to pull all of the monopoly-style protections so that the cost of care in terms of dollars spent crumbles by 75% or more.  This will result in a lot of short-term unemployment and contraction in GDP, but if it's not done our government and society will blow up.  This is a mathematical certainty.

  • You can't keep escalating defense spending either.  But to fix that you must solve our energy dependence problem, because a huge part of why we spend over $750 billion a year is found there.  Oh, it might help if we didn't hand man-portable anti-aircraft missiles to our "friends" that happen to be affiliated with Al-Qaida too, as we reportedly did in Libya.

If we contracted Medical Spending by 75% and Defense by half, expiring the payroll tax credit and indexing Social Security retirement to longevity we would balance the budget and stop destroying our nation's competitiveness and middle class.

Doubt me?  Here's the graph, and those three things are all I changed; Social Security does not move in expense but tax receipts go up due to the payroll tax cut expiration by about $200 billion a year.

 by genesis

There isn't any other way to do it.  Welfare, even if cut dramatically, can't be cut enough.  Other spending, education and transportation don't have enough margin in them either -- even cutting them in half won't get there.  Social Security can be slowed in escalation but in point of fact most of it is paid for by the Payroll Tax, or at least it was before Congress raided it with the allegedly "temporary" payroll tax deduction that costs about $210 billion a year in revenue.  Indexing retirement to longevity gets us the rest of the way there by halting the advance of spending on that program.

It comes down to medical spending and defense, and with medical spending the only solution is to remove the monopoly protections and allow competition to force the industry to eat well over a trillion dollars a year in decreased gross revenues, accepting the impact that has on the economy and employment in the short term.  On defense we must resolve our energy dilemma and stop pandering to the Middle East, then literally go home, cutting defense spending in half. 

There is no other answer; raising taxes to close the debt gap is exactly identical to what we're doing now in terms of economic damage; the downward spiral will continue if that is attempted exactly as if we do not and keep trying to deficit spend our way out of the hole.

This is reality folks, and yet nobody wants to face it.

Arithmetic cannot be bargained with.

It just is.

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Sunkeye
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the math will eventually hold sway
how long til that fact hits the fan?
time will tell i guess but til then ... forward!





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I can't wait until they lop government in half. Tomorrow isn't soon enough.

I'm amazed at how many MORBIDLY OBESE people ringing through shopping carts full of semi-edible **** (can't call it food) with their electronic "food stamp" cards I just saw in line last evening when I was food shopping.

These Land Manatee's could fast for three weeks and still be Morbidly Obese.

There is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much ****ing waste in government it's sickening.

I know at LEAST 1/2 dozen people scamming the system right now out on "disabilities".

disclaimer: I need to lose weight but I can still tie my shoes and any problems bending over is not caused by my gut, but from dinged vertebrae / bouncing bikes around in my earlier years ....these sloths couldn't even see their feet and probably haven't in years....

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Karl, I just read a headliner that said 1 in 5 people here are on Medicaid. Since probably no more than 1 in 5 people here are on Medicare (I'm just guessing), then that leads me to believe that at least half of Medical spending is on unfunded medical costs of individuals being funded by Medicare. That means we could cut that in half, easily, by getting rid of it. You could probably do something similar with pensions (cut in federal pensions, fraud via disability, and the rest).

Further, cut welfare in half or get rid of it. Cut defense spending in half. Get rid of all the ridiculous projects. Do a 20% across the board cut for starters. It would be easy to get rid of the deficit spending.

But the main thing I wanted to point out, is that at least half of the Medical is due to Medicaid. That's my guess. That's a no brainer.
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If you think .Gov is going to go quietly into the night, you have not been keeping up on current events. .gov will burn the house down, 1st.

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While a 75% decrease in medical industry revenue would cause a great deal of unemployment in that sector, the money that would otherwise be spent there would be saved or spent in other areas, which would alleviate some of the economic impact. When I had my own personal health insurance an MRI would still cost me, out of pocket, about $400. If my monthly premiums were lower and my out of pocket $300 less for that one MRI that's a lot of money freed up for recreational pursuits.

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While a 75% decrease in medical industry revenue would cause a great deal of unemployment in that sector, the money that would otherwise be spent there would be saved or spent in other areas


Don't spread false hope :) Two things happen in that case and people need to be ready for them.

One is that there will be a depression from all the borrowing that stops happening and stops producing false demand. 75% of medical spending is 12% of GDP off the top.

The other is that everyone with earnings (not debt) can transfer spending from healthcare to another area, which is good as it reflects actual demand, but also disruptive in the short-term.
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Duc888 said:
I'm amazed at how many MORBIDLY OBESE people ringing through shopping carts full of semi-edible **** (can't call it food) with their electronic "food stamp" cards I just saw in line last evening when I was food shopping.

I think that the parents who feed their kids crap are guilty of abuse; not to report them, but hit them in the head with a box of day-glo cereal or pizzarolls.

Did you know that your coronary arteries can have plaque build up at the age of 8?

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There is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much ****ing waste in government it's sickening.


I work in AZ DES as an FTE and the above statement is an understatement!

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Karl, those charts make your case crystal clear. Anyone should be able to understand this, the way you've explained it.

(Little typo you probably want to fix though: "We'll being with employment.")

This is even better than the lily pad example, in its clarity. Thank you!
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If you cut medical spending to any significant degree, wages will drop in the medical sector as well as profits.

This is going to suck for all those spending money in collage now on a career in the medical industry. It is also going to suck for people who bank their retirement money into health care.

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On your graph, maybe "debt" should be labelled "borrowing." It might be more understandable for the Santa Claus Army.

http://www.takeitoffweightloss.com/pdf/o.... Recent obesity trends in the US. It's amazing how fast we got fat. In 1990 no state was as fat as our current leanest state, Colorado. How's that for a new normal?

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Well B. Obama and Elizabeth Warren should be happy -- this would cause a massive redistribution of wealth. You think the medical sector came up with all those advances on its own? Not a chance. It took all those ill people for this to happen. It took everyone involved in manufacturing automobiles and building roads for there to be car accidents (not to mention wounded soldiers) which helped lead to advances in prosthetic devices. And plenty of people had to get old for the medical industry to benefit too! Time to channel everyone's money away from medical pockets and into restaurants, movies, games, clothes, etc.

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War is imminent.


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I'm really starting to wonder if ZIRP is causing the steady uptick in food stamps. Those on fixed incomes (mainly seniors) lost the vast majority of their interest income and are probably burning threw their saving at a good clip. I expect the majority of those on social security to eventually supplement their income with food stamps.

Karl pointed out the math just is on the budget spending. Recently we have the IMF, Krugmanites and John Boehner with the blessing of Ben making the suggestion to put off the fiscal cliff for the next year (more likely until the next presidental election). I suspect that is going to be the case as the national debt is just monoply money at this point, really what is the difference between $16T and $30T. I suspect the budget deficit will ultimately just be classified as accumulated devaluation.

The only way to fix this problem is to increase the velocity of money thereby increasing labor participation. Which brings me back to the issue of ZIRP, if people can't make money on their savings they tend to hoard money (unless you are a senior) as they are going to need it later it in their life.

On the bright side, the rest of the world will let us borrow trilions of dollars for free. So maybe we should borrow big bucks (multiple trillions) and undergo a manhattan project for the energy problem. If we lick the problem then our balance of payments problems goes away and we can get a positive ROI for the debt investment. I would eliminate ZIRP (set the fed funds rate around 7) but not end the QE program and bet the farm. Yes we would have to break up the banks but that is just collateral damage.





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And how much of the student loan debt went to the GDP? Buying computers, phones and other **** they didn't need. We are just looking at the govt spending. Now we have over 1.3 trillion in student debt that has to go somewhere.

Maybe wallstreet could package it into CDO's and sell it to pension funds...
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AZ,

Thats exactly where the student loan are going. They are securitized and sold to bond and pension funds.
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Karl,

Deficit spending of $1.2 T is added to the unpaid total, approx $16 T.

However, the $16 T is not the total debt; once all debt is tallied, then approx $50 T is extant.

Debt is the basis for our current dollar; so this $50 T in debt outstanding is being diluted by the $1.2 T additional debt this past year.

I agree that the deficit spending is a wealth tax on everyone, but what is the effective wealth tax applied per year?

Should the effective tax rate be $1.2 T / $16 T, or should it be $1.2 T / $50 T ?

Given that we have legal tender laws, I posit its that latter percentage.

Any arguments pro/con this reasoning(either way its pretty terrible) ?
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War is imminent.


I tend to agree with Friar on this one.

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the truth is there will be a lot of talk but no one will do anything. eventually we will hit the wall my guess is in 2014 - once the euro goes and the old money has a place to stash their cash we wll get cutt off just like greece.

my guess is everythng stays flat with no changes till then and once it starts we wll hear a lot of no one could have seen it comng. we will have massive unemployment and deflation. eventually a trade war and then who knows. my suggestion is to get REMOTE and get ready because when this thing goes it is going to be quick and violent.

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Yep Clay.

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when i say the fall will be fast and violent i do not mean it will happen soon quite to the contrary i honestly think we that about 1/3 of the people could care less or for what ever reason think we are either headed in the right direction or they want it to crash and another third have everythibg they have done their whole life invested into the current system -- these two groups make up the majority and will hold the course until they cant. then it will fall and once it starts it will be fast and violent.

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that is the problem - the majority want to stay on course and will do anything to put off the pain onto sonething or soneone else. most of those will die due to depresson or crine once thay are faced with reality.
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i hate it for them as some of my best friends and family are in that group but none of them want to face reality and will drive this thing streight off the cliff. Karl you would be better off helping us who see what is coming get prepared because IMHO the majority will never listen.
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Karl, thanks for all you do. You manage to put all the economic problems this country faces into a succinct and comprehensive format. One of things I'm watching with keen interest is the situation in California where the voters have decided to raise income taxes, at the same time they're raising sales taxes, at the same time that the Bush tax cuts are expiring, at the same time that the first real taxes for Obamacare kicks in. Something tells me that true havoc is about to unfold in that state. What's your take on California?
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