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Truthseeker
Posts: 8473
Incept: 2007-10-07
NorCal
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Inspirational stuff, Karl. Congrats. Now, can we talk about referring to yourself as an "old bastard" when still on the sunny side of FIFTY?? 
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"...But people better realize that the worst-case scenario could actually happen.9/11 happened. This can happen. An economic 9/11, the likes of which we've never seen." Gerald Celente
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Sunkeye
Posts: 190
Incept: 2010-12-14
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' ... and I was going to be damned if I was going to look at her tush at the finish... '
say what? plenty of tushes i'd stay behind all the way to the finish
wait ... that didn't come out like i meant it
wait ... that didn't either
oh xxxk it - congrats on the run dude
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Dusty88
Posts: 126
Incept: 2011-10-21
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Good job! and good post. Everybody can do this in one way or another. Not everyone can run, but many can bicycle. Even my friend who has fairly serious back and joint problems is doing well with water exercise.
For a few folks, especially with physical problems, they have real trouble resisting the food and that stinks. But hopefully they can look at posts like yours as in inspiration to do something for themselves.
And those of us who are healthy need to get even healthier to help our family members. That's one thing I disagree with Jack Spiriko (Survival Podcast). Endurance training is highly valuable. Even if you ARE the guy that breaks your leg, your body is a lot tougher limping than if you didn't have that endurance ability. And if someone else breaks their leg, you are a lot more help to them if you are in top shape.
I used to run marathons, triathlons, even an ironman. I've slipped the past few years but your post makes me jealous and want to get back into it!
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Darth
Posts: 2182
Incept: 2009-07-07
SWVA - US
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Damn KD! You almost look like "Olive Oil".
(sorry, had to say it LOL)
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Winstonsmith2009
Posts: 1060
Incept: 2009-08-05
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With those eggs, just avoid the yokes: 2012 study results - Carotid total plaque area (TPA) increases linearly with age. TPA increases exponentially with smoking pack-years. TPA increases exponentially with egg-yolk years. The effect size of egg yolks appears to be approximately 2/3 that of smoking. Probably egg yolks should be avoided by persons at risk of vascular disease. http://loginptr.elsevierhealth.com/Phoen....
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Genesis
Posts: 130663
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Oh bull****.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Karl - I think you need to spring for some smaller clothes.  You look lost in that t-shirt and shorts.  I'm following the same 'diet' and I put that in quotes because it is no longer a diet, but a lifestyle. I'm no longer even tempted by the crap that is always out at our office (donuts, bagels, cakes) and even Smallboy's Halloween candy all over the place didn't bother me. When I couldn't resist a few Bottle Caps (mostly from nostalgia), I didn't feel so good after eating just 5. Bleh. :-P My snacks are strawberries & blueberries (I'm addicted), celery with cream cheese or organic, all-natural peanut butter; another snack I love is all kinds of nuts or seeds (sunflower, pumpkin). I'm also totally addicted to my own recipe for iced 'frapuccino,' which contains no carbs whatsoever but tastes every bit as good as the $6.00 Starbucks version....actually better because it is made with fresh, heavy cream and home-ground caramel-flavored coffee. I eat tons of meat (bacon!), cheese, eggs, veggies, and fish (which also includes shrimp, lobster, crab). The ONLY carbs I allow are once a week and those do NOT consist of ANY wheat. (Whole cut organic oats porridge with a dash of honey or a couple of whole rye crackers with cheese.) While I wasn't 'fat' by any means, I wasn't thin either. Since the beginning of the year, I've lost 30 lbs. At 5'1", I'm back to my size in 7th grade - a size 0-2. That nasty ripply look that women start to get on their thighs as they age is completely gone.  The only downside is trying to find clothing small enough and I'm often having to shop for kids sizes, but not looking like a 12-year old is challenging. I don't really like running, but I do do it once in a while...like yesterday. Spent a good chunk of time sprinting 1/2 - 1 mile at a time, placing yard signs for my favorite Congressional candidate (shameless plug): http://kerrybentivolioforcongress.com/?s.... My 10-year old was complaining he couldn't keep up. Mostly I just do yoga. I took this photo just a couple days ago with my mobile phone. Not too bad for someone who is too close to 50 to admit. 

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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Mentalic
Posts: 9
Incept: 2009-08-06
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Are those Vibram FF shoes that you are wearing?....How does it feel to run with those?
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Spiralbinder
Posts: 305
Incept: 2008-03-20
Oregon Coast
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When I low carbed I initially had a great experience. I lost over 100 pounds and kept it off for several years. Gradually, over time I started having problems keeping my body temp up. Then I started losing hair (I was nearly bald in the front!)and my fingernails slowed their growing, and I finally ended up on thyroid meds just so I could get out of bed every day. Has anyone else experienced anything like that low carbing? I ran across a guy that advocated carbs for thyroid issues and I tried it. Sure enough, I worked my way off thyroid meds, my temp went back to normal and my hair and nails started growing again. That being said, I also regained all the weight I lost, plus more and am now fat as a danged house. I have been thinking about cycling back to low carb again but I dread that feeling of deep chill. I believe I made several crucial errors in the food I was eating, and did not exercise nearly enough to help. Watching Karl and other folk's success in low carbing and exercising makes me eager to get back to DOING something about my weight and lack of muscle tone (I am a 45 year old female, fwiw.) Thanks for hammering on this issue, Karl and TF folk. No matter what way I choose to try and make my way back, it will be in large part due to TF folks keeping this issue in my awareness :)
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Michelle ******** "I dunno man... living off the land. If you think the markets are unfair wait until you're up against the weather. The old testament God is on the other end of that trade." Sadlerj
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Drkshapiro
Posts: 627
Incept: 2012-09-12
Southern CA
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Steph, you look good. It's not just men that age like fine wine, assuming they take care of themselves. Otherwise more like aged salami.
All this Karl has done I hope he doesn't get hit by a drunk driver.
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Honesty may be the best policy, but it’s important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. --G Carlin
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Spiral - You have an underlying hormonal problem. It may not be thyroid per say, but it could be any number of other hormones, especially if you are a woman who is at or near menopause, which it appears you may be! I have a LOT of experience with this. While I am NOT a physician (and don't even play one on TV), my experience with women's hormonal problems spans decades. What I recommend is that before you attempt to do anything with your diet, is that you get a full hormonal panel to get a baseline on ALL of your hormones, which should include estrogen, progesterone, testosterone (yes! women need this too), and FSH (follicle stimulating hormone), along with metabolic hormones such as cortisol, thyroid and an insulin reaction test (fasting sugar). See what the results are and go from there. You want to pay close attention to the FSH, as a high level is the most concrete indicator of menopause. High FSH wreaks havoc with your entire body in a myriad of unpleasant ways, one of the most profound is body temperature regulation. My bet is that you are perimenopausal or actually in menopause. Excess sugar and high insulin sometimes masks the usual unpleasant signs of menopause. Take that away and you get slammed with the normal symptoms of female hormone reduction. I would also recommend that you get a lipid panel (cholesterol) for a baseline.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Genesis
Posts: 130663
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Mentalic, those are indeed, and I love the damn things.
They force you to run with proper mechanics -- your body simply won't allow it any other way; you'll drop to a fast walk if you try.
The result is that you rapidly build calf strength, which is exactly what you want for speed and endurance, as each step becomes a "spring" instead of a plod, and you don't waste energy braking your forward motion as your foot lands. It takes time to adjust to them mostly because of all the time you have spent in other shoes that encourage you NOT to use your calf muscles.
They're an "acquired taste" for sure, but I won't run in anything else. There are people who say they can't handle any sort of distance in them but IMHO that's because they're not listening to their body and are trying to evade the calf strength you need to keep the load off your joints. There's no way to cheat out of that -- if you take shock loads you'll eventually **** up your ankles, knees or hips, but if you run with good mechanics you don't take shock loads even on pavement as your landing is absorbed by the calf muscle instead.
Trust me when I tell you that when you first start running in them you're going to feel like someone ran over your calves with a truck. It takes a decent amount of time to build the strength in those muscles but once you do you'll never go back to "cushion" style shoes for running.
I keep running into people who tell me that I'm going to wreck my knees or hips with these things, but the fact is that I ****ed up my left knee when I was a kid hot-dog skiing, and it has ALWAYS been a problem for me running. It simply isn't with the 5 Fingers on a comparative basis. My usual smart-ass answer to those who claim that I should wear something made by Nike or whoever because "they're experts" is to ask whether Nike is smarter than God. God obviously designed what was a functionally-correct human for running or we would never have managed to kill enough animals before the rise of machinery to succeed as a matter of evolutionary success, and the fact that you're here is proof that premise is false.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Drkshapiro
Posts: 627
Incept: 2012-09-12
Southern CA
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Someone should send this link to Chris Christie Or not
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Honesty may be the best policy, but it’s important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. --G Carlin
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Mortgageguymn
Posts: 1561
Incept: 2009-03-09
North Coast
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Someone on the forum once said that the thing you have to eat if you want to lose weight is... less.
The low carb thing helps by suppressing cravings brought about by spikes in blood sugar. And spikes in blood sugar (and the resulting insulin increase) seem to have health dangers unto themselves. Still, one could theoretically lose weight and keep it off while eating mostly carbs. Like the professor who lost 30 pounds on the all-potato diet. It's just more likely to fail for most people. The ultimate key to maintaining low weight is calories. Calories in and calories out. Many people find the low carb strategy a helpful way to achieve overall lower caloric intake.
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Zenthunder
Posts: 6826
Incept: 2007-10-11
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think about how we evolved, what we ate, how we lived.
this is all IMHO -
1. You cannot eat like a caveman without exercising like one. It was a lifestyle, a package deal. 2. Muscle meat is the least nutrient dense meat - cavemmen ate organs, bone marrow - *everything* that didnt make you sick. There are lots of vitamins in those things and so supplementation is probably a good idea. 3. Raw meat is more easily digested and, frankly, better than cooked - try it and you will never go back. I have had many hundreds of steaks almost raw (seared with salt, cold all the way through the middle), with zero sickness or problems. I love it. I can't stand cooked steak now. Its gross. 4. Raw milk is awesome - proteins that are not cooked help with all sorts of things, my nails are so thick I have a hard time not breaking the trimmers, etc... 5. In the wild you would *never* settle for a lean game animal if an older, slower fatter one was available - you needed the energy. Fat is king for survival if you are a hunter/gatherer.
My Guess Spiral is a combination of exercise and quality nutrients would have solved your problem. That and making sure you have essential oils - I have animal fats, olive oil, fish oil, and coconut, and butter - thats it. Vitamin D is also a huge deal - we didn't live indoors 100K years ago! You have to read up on that stuff though to know what you are doing.
In the wild 'carbs' are RARE - other than starches and tubers, there aren't any naturally occuring simple sugar sources that are year round. Sugars would have been eaten in bursts, in season - storing fat for leaner times..
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Dashingdwl
Posts: 9752
Incept: 2007-06-26
los angeles
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Hoo Yah Karl.
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When you are hard and disciplined, you can be principled. People fear you because they have no leverage against you. It's the truest form of Liberty.
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Enchirito
Posts: 23
Incept: 2011-01-31
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Great work Karl.
I think the low carb paleo/primal thing is the way to go. I feel much better after cutting out all grains except for brown rice and keeping my daily carb intake at 100-150 grams (of 2,500 cal. daily). Brown rice and whole fat dairy are the only non paleo things I eat.
As SB experienced, I have heard of thyroid issues when you stay ultra low carb for extended periods. I'm thinking 100 grams a day should be minimum for maintenance.
And I love coconut oil and ghee, I use one of them in just about every meal. My diet is about 50% good fats.
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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My daily intake of fat is about 65% (NOT any transfats, hydrogenated crap a/k/a plastic). My daily carb intake is usually less than 30 gm. I'm absolutely fine with this.
I also love coconut oil (it's great for your skin too) and nearly raw meat. People FREAK when they see my steaks. I'm with Zen on this. If you're worried about contaminants, freeze your meat for 3 days before consuming it. Better yet, buy your meat from somewhere where you KNOW what they do with it. Kill it yourself or buy directly from someone who does.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Spiralbinder
Posts: 305
Incept: 2008-03-20
Oregon Coast
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Steph, thanks for the feedback :) I am pretty sure you are right. I had a workup done last year when I still had insurance, and my thyroid, estrogen, testosterone were normal, and I was low progesterone and FSH. At the risk of tmi, every time I attempt low carbing now my period stops. If I eat carbs, it restarts, so there is some kinda hormone thing going on! I will have to explore the excess sugar/insulin masking idea, very interesting! It makes me wonder if I am just dragging out menopause by masking it instead of getting over it. I was really bummed at first about the idea of menopause but hey, if I could lose some weight and regain some energy, bring it on, yo! That reminds me: near the end of my low carbing I started drinking a bit of low carb beer (one of those mistakes I mentioned). I very seldom drank in my life prior to that. A bit of beer turned into two a night and I got to where I could not function without them (sleep, relax, would get irritable if denied them). When I started eating fruit/starches/bit o'sugar, I stopped craving beer and stopped drinking all together, except for very special occasions. I still don't know what that was all about.
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Michelle ******** "I dunno man... living off the land. If you think the markets are unfair wait until you're up against the weather. The old testament God is on the other end of that trade." Sadlerj
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Flappingeagle
Posts: 1224
Incept: 2011-04-14
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I've gone from 270 to 250 since September thanks to the South Beach Diet. Low carb FTW.
Flap
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Drkshapiro
Posts: 627
Incept: 2012-09-12
Southern CA
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Mortgage guy, not to violate the 1st law of thermodynamics (since you can't) but it's CRITICAL what you eat, as you point out, due to blood sugar because when you eat carbs, primarily refined, your fat cells express insulin receptors (which pull glucose in from the blood (carbs breakdown into glucose) out of the blood quickly--then you're hungry. The blood glucose (sugar) drops and humans are programmed to run for food--it's survival.
If you eat fats and protein, primarily, your muscle cells preferentially express more insulin receptors, and here's the thing: they pull glucose out of the blood slower (so you are not getting a glucose drop and consequent hunger) AND the muscle cells burn glucose more rapidly. So you do lose more weight, via burning more glucose.
I have bought 8 copies of this book to give to fat friends (maybe now they're not friends!) but it explains the science in layman's terms, but intelligently: What Makes us Fat, by Gary Taubes.
You are correct in you could eat little of anything and be thin, I mean, you can look at whole societies, historically, who ate primarily rice and determine that. But it's harder.
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Honesty may be the best policy, but it’s important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. --G Carlin
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Genesis
Posts: 130663
Incept: 2007-06-26
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I'm not "ultra" low carb (e.g. zero); I eat plenty of veggies and some fruits, and those have carbs on them. And one day a week I do cheat to some degree, but I don't really want to cheat more than that as I prefer it the other way around.
Oh, if you need another reason to get the damn fat off your ass your pecker will work like you were 16 again, even though you're not. This can be a rather frustrating thing, however, if you are single!
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Spiral - PM me. You don't need to suffer. NO ONE needs to suffer with menopause. Trust me on that. And NO, you do not have to take pharmaceuticals.
You are absolutely in menopause if you have low progesterone and high FSH. No doubt about it.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Options
Posts: 152
Incept: 2007-09-03
Chicago
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Ha! You skinny bastard! I am doing the same stuff except elliptical and weights and martial arts. I'm 50 and have never been better. KD is right about this getting in shape thing. I have always been in pretty good shape but not like I am right now. I don't party like a rock star like I did in my twenties. And that helps too, count on it. MyFitnessPal.com app is very good for keeping track of your intake. It keeps me from eating too much. Check it out.
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I think we should drink, heavily.
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