Look, Broken Windows! Cool!
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Posted 2012-10-31 09:28
by Karl Denninger
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Look, Broken Windows! Cool!
 

Amazing, really.

The screaming about how Sandy will wind up being a "net positive" for the economy is nothing more than a rehash of the old, tired and long-disproved "broken-window" fallacy.

That's the premise that when one has a terrible thing happen the repair costs are additive to GDP but ignores the costs that were imposed in the first place, such as the destruction of wealth embodied into those windows.

This sort of nonsense is common and often used as justification for both natural disasters and even wars, since war tends to trash infrastructure, and people point to the usual ramp job in the economy that happens when war ends as justification.

Bah.

When war is "good" economically that change occurs due primarily due to the death of large swaths of the working population!  This reduces competition for jobs which in turn tends to drive up wages.  In other words it shifts the supply/demand curve on labor; if there was a lot of slack in the labor market prior to the war (e.g. WWII) this can provide a boost as all those unemployed people are now dead.

Of course if you're one of the dead you probably disagree that this was a "good thing", but it does provide an example of why economics is often called "the dismal science."  I often question the applicability of the word "science" in the same sentence, however, with people like Krugman and similar, who are more-akin to practitioners of some odd moon-dancing cult than anything approaching scientific inquiry, and the basis of my objection begins with their willful refusal to validate their claims against the basic laws of arithmetic!

"Recovery" from Sandy will certainly be a problem economically, but hammers should be applied to the heads of those in both the private sector and governments who failed to plan and thus planned to fail.  I remain stunned -- and appalled -- at failures among critical systems in places like hospitals which were unable to remain operating during this storm when cut off from utility power.  It's one thing to blow it as a business; the penalty for that is bankruptcy.  But when life-safety is involved and quasi-government "approval" and "licensing" is at-issue criminal charges must issue against those individuals and firms who couldn't be bothered to spend the money and plan for entirely-expected threats to operational continuity, as the entire premise of their alleged offering to emergency medical services is predicated on that continuity!

Alternatively, let's cut the crap and drop all the government "shields" against people going after these jackasses for everything they have.  The utter idiocy of "licensing" medical facilities and making representations that actual life-safety measures are reasonable in face of now-overwhelming evidence that nobody gave a good damn ought to be front-page news in every paper across the nation.

It won't be though.

Nor will it be in the financial markets.  Everyone talks about "redundancy" in the context of 9/11, but that's crap too.  In point of fact in 1992, when I lived and worked in Chicago, a contractor accidentally sunk a piling too close to an old freight tunnel at Kinzie Street resulting in the Chicago River flooding the underground levels of a huge number of buildings, including the Chicago Merc and CBOT.  The old tunnels had been converted to run fiber-optic lines among other things and so-called "watertight" doors were either removed or compromised over the years.  That disaster led to requirements that actual geographically-diverse backup facilities be constructed and certified to be operational if needed for such allegedly-necessary things as financial exchanges!  That was more than a decade prior to 9/11, yet not only did we wind up with disrupted financial markets on 9/11 now it's happened again despite so-called "redundancy" that was required more than, at this point, twenty years ago.

Reality is that storms happen.  And before people start screaming about "Glo-bull warming" and lose their ability to comment on this Ticker, let me point out that this storm, while bad, doesn't even measure up in historic terms.  Rather what this shows is that so-called "100 year flood" levels are, well, statistically valid for a once-in-a-hundred-year event -- which is about what we just had.  If you built your infrastructure to 11 feet above sea level for NYC based on this "100 year flood" 30 years ago, when there hadn't been a flood to that level in 70 years, guess what -- time's up!

There's no reason on God's Green Earth for any facility in today's world that has a requirement to remain operating to have its switchgear in a basement where it can be flooded, with no means to isolate and reroute power, and/or a generator that either can be flooded out, a fuel system that can be shorted out, or a power distribution system for the building (including the elevators!) that can be turned into slag by water intrusion.  Facilities planners and building managers love those sub-basement utility closets as they're "cheap space" that has little economic value in terms of rentable square feet, but they forget that the lack of value applies both ways and when they predicate the value of all the square feet above that sub-basement on the provision of power through that nice cubby hole down in the bottom of the building you damned well better make sure that it doesn't turn into an electrified shark tank at random, even if unlikely, times.

We also need to take a serious look within the property and casualty insurance space at what look an awful lot like intentional losses.  Anyone who left a car in an underground garage in NYC in Manhattan as Sandy approached should have their claim denied as certainly as if they had set it on fire intentionally.  While that almost-certainly won't be done to people it should be; it was utterly predictable that any vehicle left in a place less than 25' above sea level was going to be turned into a sunk boat, and I saw an awfully-large number of cars that were effectively intentionally abandoned in NYC.

In line with this I will put out a consumer alert here and now: Be extremely careful buying any used car for the next two to three years and demand hard proof that it was not in the flooded parts of the nation during Sandy. 

There are a lot of very-unscrupulous people who will take a flooded vehicle, "rehabilitate" it and then resell it without disclosing what happened.  This is radically illegal but happens all the time.  You never want to buy such a car as they're not worth a dollar; the water gets into the wiring harness and inevitably destroys it from the inside, invisibly but with utter certainty.  I fully expect that these cars will show up everywhere through the nation over the next two or three years, and everyone who buys one is going to get screwed.

As we recover from the damage let's not forget that hurricanes are random events but do not occur without fair warning measured in days.  Those institutions such as hospitals that lost power due to generator failures had plenty of time to test the backup facilities "in anger" and failed to do so; they should be held fully to account for these failures.  Those institutions, especially government institutions such as the NYPD and NYFD facilities that the NYPD and NYFD refused to evacuate in advance even though they were in the flood zone, must also be held to account, and you should take full notice of the fact that the supposedly "smartest guys in the room" in fact are at least as stupid as the average facility manager, and in many cases proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are more stupid.

In other words, plan to take care of yourself and do not rely on government, because if there is one thing we know it is that government is an utter expert at cocking up anything it touches, and Sandy is just the latest example.

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Wis/min
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I watched that idiocy on CNBS in disbelief.

Only Joe Kernan gave anything resembling a refutation and it seemed weak.

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The "Broken Window" fallacy should be fairly easy to refute:

Every dollar spent by an insurance company on replacing broken windows is a dollar they don't pay out in dividends to their stockholders.

Glazier: +1 dollar.
Stockholder: -1 dollar.

Ditto self-insured companies paying for their own repairs.

And so on.
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Yup. Just had breakfast with some neighbors, one of whom made the statement, "Well, it will be good for the GDP because of all of that work which will need to be done." I tried refuting this sentiment, but could tell from his eyes that he simply not listening.

I knew someone who used to live on the NJ shore who went through a big storm around 15 years ago. He was leasing a Lexus, didn't want it any more, and literally dumped buckets of salt water into the car (leather seats) so it would incur enough damage that the lessor would take it back and he could get out of the lease.

This will be a field day for all kinds of fraud, and because of the magnitude of the damage, make it impossible for it to be monitored.

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Rebuilding the Obama way: countless opportunities for fraud from "loans" to CONtracts to federal "aid"




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But you guys are missing out on those "free" debit cards and the like issued from FEMA.

I'm sure the .gov will provide are sorts of grants to the states and insurance companies too.

It will all be borrowed from the future of taxpayers but who cares about that.
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I understand Bastiat's broken windows fallacy. But, Bastiat did not have an insurance industry like we have.

In this case, the baker does not spend his money to replace the window. So, I am trying to understand where the "unseen" is. Is it in the premiums? Is it in the lost investment capital? Is it in reduced owner payouts?
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yes, why don't we just bulldoze the whole country, work for everyone! This is the same principal as hiring someone to dig a ditch and someone else to fill it back up.
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Simply put Rickcaird, the money used to rebuild is taken away from other productive activities.

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You made a good list of the missmanagement by private industry and there are probably dozen more that happened.

Its a good thing that Gov. was not involved in those decissions or lack of. it would have been worst /scarc


I'm looking at the other half of the glass. (1/2 full).
There will economic improvement for individuals ...
Double time pay, insurance money, new jobs for the unemployed, The Fed. will print more money, etc..
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rickaird wrote..
I understand Bastiat's broken windows fallacy. But, Bastiat did not have an insurance industry like we have.

In this case, the baker does not spend his money to replace the window. So, I am trying to understand where the "unseen" is. Is it in the premiums? Is it in the lost investment capital? Is it in reduced owner payouts?


Who pay the premiums for insurance? Casualty insurance here used to be about 1/4% of the property. Not now. Also, what they call stimulus is akin to building a house and burning it down. The whole thing is destruction of the existing capital base.

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Quote:
In this case, the baker does not spend his money to replace the window. So, I am trying to understand where the "unseen" is. Is it in the premiums? Is it in the lost investment capital? Is it in reduced owner payouts?


Insurance is just saving. It's just a big, group bank account with lots of rules about who can withdraw and when.

So, your premise is wrong, the baker does spend his money on replacing the window.
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In order for this to be a net gain for the economy we would have to have a multiplier effect high enough to make up for the losses. And if this were true I would think we would have figured this out long ago and we would routinely burn our cities to the ground in order to maintain a robust economy.

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I'm sorry, but I cannot feel any pity for people who can afford to build multi million dollar summer cottages on a sand bar.

You cannot regulate stupidity.

Hummm ... maybe I'm wrong ... print money, get new cottage
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QE4 here we come! Look at all the shovel ready projects, fire up the presses and start handing out pallet loads of cash to give to Home Depot and every contractor in the country. Better than Iraq.

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Total bull****. I had damage to my property I will not be fixing until I can afford it.

A meteor could hit this country and these asshats would find a NET positive in it.

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More self serving logic. That theory is crap if you are the one paying. Now we get to watch the technocrats run their looting operation. More mission creep in the wrong direction from FEMA and the state. Why are today's so called experts dead wrong so often? A. Because its in their self serving interest. And the excuse for incompetence will be we need more money to do the job we were already paid to do. In the private sector you get fired for this outcome.

Now we all get to pay for all new infrastructure for NY city. Yippy! The bad part is we will pay many times more than its worth. Rest assured they will build it worse than it was. Why do it right if you get paid twice for doing it wrong. This is a city planners wet dream.
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Only works when

A. Saved money sitting in jars in backyards is used to replace destroyed infrastructure.

B. New infrastructure is vastly more productive than replaced units.


Happens: Rarely.

Reality:
Earth's resources are vast, and doesn't whine when we continually wreck our houses on the Sand.

No cares when Insurance company executives cry into their beer.
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Only works when

A. Saved money sitting in jars in backyards is used to replace destroyed infrastructure.

B. New infrastructure is vastly more productive than replaced units.


And even then, if you have the money in a jar, and new infrastructure is vastly better, then why wouldn't you just replace the infrastructure without the destruction first?

You're going to get that bump in GDP no matter what, and being able to plan improvements is almost always better than being forced into making changes abruptly.
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Insurance is just saving. It's just a big, group bank account with lots of rules about who can withdraw and when.

So, your premise is wrong, the baker does spend his money on replacing the window.


Using the bank account analogy, would the rebuild costs result in a pulling forward of the funds that are in that group bank account? That is, the rebuild expenditures result in an increase in the expenditures near term (money velocity increases).

I understand the broken window fallacy concept. I also see what has occurred in Christchurch with the earthquake reconstruction. Short term, it seems to be a gain in the local economy. Longer term, the capital destruction may end up averaging out to a net zero or worse. We have not seen this averaging out (yet).

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Sure. It is just pulling forward demand.

Someone is trading their savings (or going into debt) for something now. The flipside is that someone else is building their savings for something later.
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President Obama proclaimed our area a disaster 6/29/12. So far, the only ones getting ahead are the multiple engineers and inspectors that had to be paid consultation fees just to approve simply replacement repairs.
They started on our commercial building last week. This week they can't work because of inclement weather. I thought with all the trades out of work, this would have been done by now. I thought wrong. I feel like they're treating this like the 'Big Dig'. Everyone seems to have a fee.
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Unemployed males have probably a higher negative value than a broken window.

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Growth is based upon capital formation which is based upon capital. Destroying capital is akin to destroying the foundation of the entire structure.

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Back in the late 1980s, I was in charge of Fire Communications for the Chicago Fire Department. During July on one of those years, we had an extremely hot day with temperatures over 100 degrees. The dispatch center was powered by four different sources for redundancy. There were two Edison electrical feeds, one gasoline powered generator and one diesel powered generator. All power sources were tested on a regular basis (weekly). On the day that the temperature was over 100 degrees, both Edison electric feeds failed due to system overload. Neither generator would fire, even though they were provided with separate battery powered starter systems.

Sometimes Murphy's law comes into play.

Fortunately, during that power outage, while the power was out for two hours, no emergency requests came into the center. The telephone lines were still active during the outage.
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