Treason By Administration In Libya?
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Posted 2012-10-24 10:33
by Karl Denninger
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Treason By Administration In Libya?
 

Well well well what do we have here?

I've talked a bit about rumors that just won't die that our real purpose in being in Libya with that "Diplomatic Mission" was more related to trying to buy back portable anti-aircraft missiles that we sold or gave to Gaddafi (or was it the "Rebels" -- or both?) and then went "missing."

Now it appears that we have national media that are talking about it and have uncovered proof that these are not just rumors.

Our national hubris in handing a thug anti-aircraft missiles that are both man-portable and not secured is pretty far over the line.  What's worse is that when we discovered they had "disappeared" we apparently then turned around and stuck a ****load of cash in what amounted to an unguarded CIA outpost-cum-"safehouse" and tried to buy them back.

Ok, it wasn't quite unguarded.  But it was damn close, and it was certainly not sufficiently guarded, as we now know.

The ugly of course is that this adds materially to the coverup attempt that Obama and his administration attempted to pull when the attack happened.  Not only are there emails that form hard documentation that the White House knew that this was a raid and not in response to some "Youtube video" in addition they knew damn well what they were doing there and that the "mission" was a high-value military target in that it held both large sums of cash and weapons.

This is damn close to treason folks, and I do not use that word lightly.

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Nails it!
Damn straight!

Bigger than Watergate x 1000.

The msm is worse than Pravda...

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Running guns through Turkey to Syria....aiding and abetting the enemy?
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KD connecting the dots once again. Adds some explanation to the disinformation campaign. Again it shows the utter incompetency of the current Chicago U administration. This will come back to haunt not only them but US when the next round starts. Also I have to wonder if they had any recovered weapons there?

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We are the enemy.

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We've been the bad guys around the world for a LONG time Workerbee...I'm just hoping that enough people are starting to see the truth of that.

Our government is not only an enemy of our Republic, but of the world over...using our military to project their force.

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http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2012/10/....

CBS News has been told that, hours after the attack began, an unmanned Predator drone was sent over the U.S. mission in Benghazi, and that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft apparently observed the final hours of the protracted battle.

The State Department, White House and Pentagon declined to say what military options were available. A White House official told CBS News that, at the start of the attack, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta "looked at available options, and the ones we exercised had our military forces arrive in less than 24 hours, well ahead of timelines laid out in established policies."
But it was too late to help the Americans in Benghazi. The ambassador and three others were dead.
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Hillary should resign. If she doesn't resign, her chances to run in 2016 are DONE.

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I'm sorry, this makes no sense! Why would any U.S administration hand over anti aircraft missiles to Gaddaffi, a man who masterminded the bombing of a Pan Am plane? In my opinion, the only reason the CIA operatives were in Benghazi was to ascertain the level of extremist Al Qaeda/Islamist connections with the Libyan rebels.

FWIW, when I want to listen or watch unbiased news about the U.S.A. I go to the BBC, France24, Russia Times, NPR/PBS, Al-Jazeera, Democracy Now, CSPAN. I also enjoy watching The Daily show with Jon Stewart.

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Dashingdwl wrote..
Hillary should resign. If she doesn't resign, her chances to run in 2016 are DONE.

Dash, you have just offered the most important reason why she should REFUSE to resign.

Tully

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Quote:
Hillary should resign


Per Ed Kline...Hillary requested beefed up security at site. Request ignored. Bill wanted her to resign and not be scapegoat. Her legal folks said to take responsibility (appear presidential) and "she would be fully exonerated when the full story comes out."
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I think you guys are forgetting a few things: Um...Big Bird, Romnesia, women in binders...crap like that. Who is this Ben Gazzi anyways? Is he on TMZ?
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US admin officials didn't hand over weapons to Gaddaffi, Richard.
They handed them over to the rebel forces to OVERTHROW Gaddaffi.

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Mortgage, LoL!

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****ing unbelievable, I still remember Obummer using their youtube video as reason to limit free speech.

This mess should end Obama and his gang of socialist ****s.

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This is just Fast & Furious.

Only Mexico: Libya
Brder Agent: Ambassador.

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I thought that the missing missiles were MANPAD’s mostly Sa24’s, and SA 7’s. Made in Russia. There were reports we were trying to scoop them up before they fell into the wrong hands. I had no idea we sold them to daffy.

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Article 3 Section 3 delineates treason
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


So, shall we hold our breath to see if CONgress will do it's job???

I don't see it happening... unfortunately

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Exactly, Worker! The difference is that Benghazi was their impromptu fraud to cover up their security screw-up (and to hide the obvious continuing existence of Al Qaeda despite Obama having personally killed Bin Laden with a garrote), while Fast & Furious was a pre-meditated plan to let a bunch of Mexicans get killed with traceable US guns so that Obama could implement more gun control - all of which would be obvious if the administration would release the documents that have been subpoenaed by congress. Watergate was child's play compared to Fast & Furious.
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Dammm it.

If they all resigned for lying then the shadow government would have to take the front of the stage.
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I read somewhere else weeks ago that the ex-SEALs that died were in-country working for a NGO to retrieve the SAMs. I'll see if I can find that link.

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Clueless, that's true. They were blue badgers and at least one (Ty Woods) was on the mission re: MANPADS (man portable anti-air missiles). They were not part of the security detail.

I heard from another blue badger that they were ordered by their superior to stay in the annex (away from the main compound that was initially attacked). They went anyway, toward the sounds of gunfire, and started dropping 40mm HE rounds (golden eggs) into crowds of attackers. Unfortunately they were killed by well placed mortar rounds. Yep, mortar rounds. No mob should ever form up with a mortar team in place.

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Glenn Beck has been all over this, as a hunch shortly after the attack and now with more facts.

I hope you non- or third-party voters reconsider voting for Romney now. He
sucks, but Obama is a traitor and is getting people KILLED and needs to go at minimum (arrested and tried would be better but I'll take what I can get right now).

Don't be surprised if we lose more airliners to weapons we "lost" over there, too.

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LQ, if you are listening today, he really called out the military for someone of the 300-400 folks that got the emails to come out and let the truth be known...who gave the order to sit, etc.

"You took an oath to defend the consitution, you are willing to die in the sands of Afganistan, but you are afraid of going to jail if you tell the truth?"
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Glenn Beck has been hot & heavy on this.

He'll address key points again on the 5pm show.
Iheartradio now has The Blaze radio and at 5pm Glenn's show is live.

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