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Jonesapple10
Posts: 379
Incept: 2010-11-09
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This goes way beyond just Hilary's failure, but, yeah I'm good with resigning. IF Obama wins the election, she will/would have anyway. Lets just hope she doesn't come around in 2016.
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Jata1
Posts: 5071
Incept: 2009-03-08
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taking responsibility without resigning is meaningless
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Rev4:4
Posts: 92
Incept: 2007-09-02
State of Denial
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Kinda reminds me of how Les Aspin took the responsibility for Mogadishu. The commander on the ground wanted some heavy armor in case things went bad, the request was denied and then we have "Blackhawk Down". Aspin did resign though.
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Jackl
Posts: 2237
Incept: 2008-01-17
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Coverup smell is strong on this one.
Winning heart and minds, but occasionally getting an ambassador killed.
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Gtw341
Posts: 5
Incept: 2009-11-01
Niceville, FL
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What do you want to bet she's taking the fall for Obama so he can shift the blame (yet again) and save his re-election bid. What ever happened to "the buck stops here" at the oval office desk? Susan Rice was trotted out to "Meet the Press" right after the event and faithfully spouted the official line. Now she looks like a fool for that (did at the time, too, to anyone who suspected the truth). It amazes me the gullibility of the public. All lemmings.
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Rjazz117
Posts: 17802
Incept: 2007-09-11
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Of COURSE she is willing to "take responsibility," as long as there are no consequences in doing so.
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Mannfm11
Posts: 3556
Incept: 2009-02-28
DFW, Tx
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To even be associated with this group of outlaws shows something. There must be something fundementally wrong with the USA that re-electing this administration is even considered. These people continually attack the fabric of the US, not only disregarding the Constitution, but taking continual actions to undermine it.
Maybe most people aren't paying attention, but the freedom of speech is under seige around the world. This forum is a threat to those that choose to defraud and attack us, our property, our freedoms and the exposure of the general dishonesty of governments and their cronies. Constantly, we must defend the right to bear arms as protection from tyrany within. Habeus Corpus is being more limited all the time and the takings clause in the 5th has all but gone out the window. This is the first administration that wears on its face that our property belongs to them, for us to use only as they wish. We have a Supreme Court that allows for confiscation of property if one is to make a choice in healthcare. We have Central bankers whose policies are to cover up crimes, to restore solvency to a looted system through looting those who worked and saved their money, forcing them to gamble or else.
This is just the latest stage act of deception from this administration. Regardless of how poor a party the Rethuglicans are, can we afford any more Pelosi actions, where we learn what is in a bill after they pass it? Any more filing and presenting what are likely false records about where the President was born? Any orchestrated coverups of what is clearly gross negligence of our foreign agents protection and lives? What we get is the budget was cut? Has this ever stopped Obama from spending money before? Or did he need it for his re-election campaign? What about the backdoor appointments of patent revolutionaries to government posts with no accountability? Do we really want to live under a Politboro system?
Never buy the Socialist utopia. Note that the rich in these type systems always are the bureaucrats and dictators that run the system. Note the Clintons, who passed the hat for legal fees, despite being attorneys themselves, had a fortune in the $50 million range less than 8 years after leaving office. This despite Hillary being Senator in a major state I don't believe she had legitimate citizenship. Did the bankers pay her off for all the nice things Bill and Robert Rubin did for them in what were the true bubble years?
There is only one reason for Obama to get re-elected, so he is standing clearly in the open, glued to the floor when the fart happens. We hear about the mess Obama inherited. Think Bush didn't inherit a mess, with a lionized Fed Chairman, a brewing Al Qaeda mess, a stock bubble of epic proportions, with the SPX 200% above former peak price to dividend valuation, a NASDAQ that paid no dividends and made up of bubble companies and a public addicted to speculation, looking for the next bubble? Remember monetary policy was really never eased until the last year of the first Bush administration and hasn't been tightened since.
Dick Nixon has nothing on Obama. Obama is running commercials questioning Romney's honesty. Has America been paying attention? This is like a skunk talking about a dog stinking. I have yet to hear Obama tell the truth about anything. I have yet to see his underlings exhibit any real dedication to the Constitution of the US, a document that not only empowered government, but was designed to limit it. All the powers granted in the Constitution are limited by the Bill of Rights. This is not an isolated incident. I'm sure I will get some disagreement.
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Landshark
Posts: 11316
Incept: 2008-02-07
The Wild West
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Quote:What do you want to bet she's taking the fall for Obama so he can shift the blame (yet again) and save his re-election bid. That's exactly what is happening. Hillary's falling on her sword so that Romney can't directly attack Obama concerning the "intelligence failure" in Libya tonight.
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Krs
Posts: 688
Incept: 2009-05-07
Colleyville, Texas
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What do they have on the Clinton's? They are lining up like good little soldiers for this Administration and that doesn't pass the smell test either!
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Fog, smoke, and mirrors... perhaps those tin-foil-hat wearing digital dickweeds were on to something? Tyler Durden on the Fed – Feb 28, 2013
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Noodleman
Posts: 2393
Incept: 2008-11-01
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I recall when she ran against Obama in the 2008 primary and made it very clear that "The buck stops in the Oval Office".
Just like with AG Holder - Hillary is made of teflon as long as she covers for 'the man'.
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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935
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Jtmo3
Posts: 679
Incept: 2009-07-31
Missouri
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Oh no. She'll take the blame now. Be declared a stand up politician and proclaim her desire for the oval office in a couple years as an honest pol where the buck stops. That is after the american short term memory has forgotten all about what happened last month. I wouldn't wipe my ass with these people.
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Phxkevin
Posts: 353
Incept: 2010-06-25
Phoenix Arizona
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Mannfm11, I respect your opinions, but, if you think the Obama administration is the only one taking your rights away, you are missing all the others.
The Patriot Act, NDAA and etc were passed by congress, and signed by Bush and Obama respectively. Among other atrocities! Congress hates the people (both Repubs and Dems), the executive branch (both Repubs and Dems) have declared war on the people, the courts both liberal and conservative justices have deferred to congress and supported the executives. Its all about supporting crony's all the time.
Every time I think an administration has gone too far, the next one goes further. I have no faith that Romney if elected, would be any different.
Edit: All of them are striving to be a Clinton or a Nixon. There is no difference in who is elected.
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Congress persons are all the same, republican or democrat, conservative or liberal. They talk a good game, but the results (or lack thereof) show something different.
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Jinxx0r
Posts: 4233
Incept: 2007-08-10
Online
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Fog of war for 24 hours? Sure. I could understand that (but you should get your **** together before you start giving affirmative statements). They were blaming this video for WEEKS after the incident.
Bull****.
It's a coverup for obamao's failed foreign policy. He destabilized Libya without a plan to deal with it... just like Egypt. Apparently the buck stops with everyone but obamao.
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Bertdilbert
Posts: 2666
Incept: 2008-12-22
CA
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There is more to this story.
We had people in Benghazi purchasing weapons from rebels, particularly shoulder fired SAM's that were taken during the overthrow. Cash for the purchase of these weapons had to be kept somewhere along with the purchased weapons themselves. Congress authorized 40 million for the purchase of these weapons.
If this was just a terrorist attack, that alone would not be worth the cover up that has been going on. Underneath, there must be some very embarrassing information. It is very conceivable that this was an armed robbery in addition to just a terrorist attack. I want to know how much cash and weapons the terrorist obtained in the two attacks.
There were two attacks, apparently they did not get what they were looking for at the first location. The second attack seems to have come about when the other location was revealed.
It also seems that the security that was hired to protect the embassy may have been involved. Upon leaving the consulate compound, they were waved into another compound but sensed a trap. They would have to be aware of the other compound and the security there. Upon not turning in they were fired upon.
There is more to this story than just inadequate security to protect the ambassador. It was inadequate security in light of what they were involved in.
I want an accounting of the cash and weapons now missing.
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Baker
Posts: 6
Incept: 2009-07-31
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I say they knew beforehand about the attacks. The 'blame the video' excuse was ready from moment one of the attacks even though practicaly no one had seen it.
The apology from the US enbassy for American freedoms and values was just sickening and depressing.
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Fraudster
Posts: 4176
Incept: 2011-05-10
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If we were back in the 70s or 80s Obama would be impeached and/or forced to resign. This was far worse than the Watergate scandal. Just more lawlessness.
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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]." - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov
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Patriarch
Posts: 982
Incept: 2007-10-18
your account summary
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When a political animal like Hillary Clinton says, "What I want to avoid is some kind of political gotcha or blame game." "I know that we're very close to an election," Clinton said. "I want to just take a step back here and say from my own experience, we are at our best as Americans when we pull together." then you KNOW that she knows she has screwed the pooch. Everything is I, I, I, me, me, me with these people until it is time to pay the bill, then it's we, we, we, all the way home. link: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton....
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Our elected take an oath to serve. Time to add: “I will not serve in a capacity which I am not able to comprehend or am incapable of by mental defect of any kind, nor will I use the excuse of intellective deficiency if found in violation of this oath/affirmation”, which backs charging wayward politicians with treason.
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Nomullet
Posts: 6827
Incept: 2007-11-11
SW
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It wouldn't make sense for her to resign now. Mittens might get elected or Obama should appoint new Secretary for a orderly transition.
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Don't confuse clear thinking with simplistic thinking. --Nomullet
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Ben
Posts: 6223
Incept: 2009-10-09
The Distant, Glorious, Past
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And Barack's endgame for the Clinton's falls in to place.
Hillary falls on her sword and her political career is now over and she is no longer a threat.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Brilliantly played.
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Nomullet
Posts: 6827
Incept: 2007-11-11
SW
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I hate to say this but Hillary may of just ****ed up.
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Don't confuse clear thinking with simplistic thinking. --Nomullet
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