Yes, thats why I cancelled my NRA membership when he spoke at the NRA earlier this year. The NRA "jumped the shark".

I canceled my NRA membership years ago. When they back an LP candidate, I'll rejoin.

G_d forbid they didn't endorse one of the candidates.

But the NRA just sent me a membership registration form yesterday. For $25 (1 year membership) I will get a duffle bag, $2,500 firearms insurance, and a $5,000 life insurance policy. What's not to like about that. With the exception I really don't like being on a list of firearms owners. So they will need to up their offer a little.

NRA is like AARP - and association for stupid people who like to be kicked by their supposed friends.

Yup...I think most on this board already know the NRA is just a puppet for the government meant to distract us and make us feel all warm and cozy. It's nice of them to advertise that nationally though.

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Let me remind you what Mitt Romney actually believes when it comes to firearms, from Mitt Romney's own mouth.

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"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts",� Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1 with legislators, sportsmen's groups and gun safety advocates. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." - July 1st, 2004 -- Mitt Romney

No matter how much evidence, Mitt Romney's anti-gun history apparently never happened. History is being rewritten (by the victors - so far):
http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w....

They blew the brains out back when they endorsed Reed.

LMAO... they've been dead to me for a long time.

victors? I guess even losers can rewrite history now

Taking action to limit the Right to Bear Arms Score Card

Obama: 0

Romney: 1

Romney signs off on banning the ownership of "Deadly assault weapons"

Obama, on the other hand, via "Fast and Furious", gives them away for free!

The NRA should love Obama...

The real story here, is what did Mittens promise the NRA in return for their endorsement?

"...will formally announce the endorsement at a Romney rally in Virginia later Thursday evening. Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan will also be on hand."

A "back door" deal has been struck...what was it?

The alternative is a communist. Like every other politician, he said what he thought he had to in order to get elected as a Republican in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. The NRA had no choice other than not endorse anyone. Does anyone think the NRA will ever again endorse a Democrat in the presidential race? Why would they endorse a communist? They can't control you if they can't take your guns. There IS a difference between the only two parties that are relevent.

It is not a zero sum game, Romney is not the perfect candidate by any stretch of the imagination but he is head and shoulders above his opponent.

Romney will have to at least pay lip service to conservative principles. That may translate into less pressure to curtail gun ownership and rights.

Debtpie wrote..

Taking action to limit the Right to Bear Arms Score Card

Obama: 0

Romney: 1

Romney signs off on banning the ownership of "Deadly assault weapons"

I'll stop picking on you after this, Debtpie. :-)

Taking aim at Obama's stance on gun control
by John R. Lott Jr
http://articles.philly.com/2008-10-14/ne....

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...This evidence should be sufficient, but I have yet another reason to be skeptical. I knew Obama during the mid-1990s, when we were both at the University of Chicago Law School. Indeed, when I introduced myself to him, he said, "Oh, you are the gun guy."

I responded, "Yes, I guess so." His response, as I recall it, was, "I don't believe that people should be able to own guns."

When I said it might be fun sometime to talk about the question and his support of Chicago's lawsuit against gunmakers, he simply grimaced and turned away, ending the conversation...

Since Obama is a stone-cold ****ing liar, we can pretty much take this anecdote from Lott as gospel.

Since Muslims usually don't have a problem with their peasantry owning guns, I'll have to chalk Obama's attitude up to his Red Diaper Baby upbringing, and perhaps the views of the Muslim tyrant ruler sponsors who he bows to.

Karl,
'assault weapons' are controlled machine guns and in general have no place in our areas with a few exceptions. The only reason you/we still have any gun rights or possess any guns is the efforts of the NRA.
I am not against civilian ownership of machine guns but limiting the access to them and say... Claymore mines is IMO prudent.

Heisenberg wrote..

Like every other politician, he said what he thought he had to in order to get elected as a Republican in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts.

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"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts",� Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1 with legislators, sportsmen's groups and gun safety advocates. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." - July 1st, 2004 -- Mitt Romney

He had to say this ? Really?

Not to mention what he banned was metal and plastic boxes and adjustable plastic stocks, and the WORDS was stamped on the side of the gun. IOW he gave license for the MA Pigs to kill you over a word, or kill you becasue you had a post-ban box that held 11 rounds of ammo. Or because the stock adjusted in length.

But he had to? Uh-huh

kakakakakakaka-keeeeeeepppppppppppppppp Voting Suckers

PS for those that you forgot, google NRA and Disclose act...

All the NRA cares about is being at the table for negotiations on new restrictive laws. They want them to be enacted, because it helps them with fund raising. The AWB sunset didn't help, because now the assumption is that if you contribute more to the NRA, they will help you to get your rights back.

Unfortunately my gun club requires that I be a member, because the board of directors is made up of a bunch of 70 year olds whose brains gave up long ago and believe the Sean Hannity BS talking points.

Ron40xc wrote..

Karl,
'assault weapons' are controlled machine guns and in general have no place in our areas with a few exceptions. The only reason you/we still have any gun rights or possess any guns is the efforts of the NRA.

Wrong.

The ban in Massachusetts was on civilian-legal weapons that look scary, such as AR-15s, which are perfectly legal semi-automatic weapons that are less deadly (by far) than a common deer rifle.

They are, however, quite popular in the shooting sports realm in no small part because their recoil is quite-manageable and thus are comfortable to shoot, even for smaller-framed people such as women (most of whom absolutely HATE larger-caliber rifles -- with good reason!)

Look on the bright side. Mitt Romney is exposing a lot of so-called conservatives and conservative organizations as GOP party hacks.

National Review, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, and now the NRA.

While it's dismaying to know how few friends we really have, it's better to know than to pretend.

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"They are, however, quite popular in the shooting sports realm in no small part because their recoil is quite-manageable and thus are comfortable to shoot, even for smaller-framed people such as women (most of whom absolutely HATE larger-caliber rifles -- with good reason!)"

Go to an NRA high power match. All you'll see are AR-15s, possibly an M1A or two. What's funny are the clubs that think AR's are fine but look at you like the devil if you bring out an AK!

Yep.

And Mittens banned them -- permanently -- in Massachusetts.

What this really shows, again, like for the 8000th time, is that Romney has no core principals other than attaining his own personal wealth and political power at all costs.

He will say anything, do anything, be anything he needs to in order to get what he wants.

I can't say much better about Obama, but looking back on Obama's life, he has not grossly enriched himself financially at the expense of others. That's at least one bright character trait I note in Obama that is completely missing in Romney.

America does not need a modern era, enrich myself and **** everyone else, CEO in the white house....as Romney said, his job is not to worry about the 47% that won't vote for him...his only concern is about those that can give him what he wants...more money, more power.

debtpie wrote..

America does need a modern era, enrich myself and **** everyone else, CEO in the white house.

But if you are a farmer in iowa, then its ok to enrich yourself and **** everyone else, right ?

hmmm, if i had to choose between being shot by a
.308 hunting rifle and/or a .223/7.62x39 "assault weapon...may i have the nasty looking assault weapon please?

amazing how people that obviously don't know **** about weapons chime in with wildly inaccurate anti 'assualt weapon" talking points

By the way, did y'all know that Obama has removed the requirement for legal aliens to provide additional 90 days proof of residence to purchase a firearm? Seems the administration finds that the second amendment should be applied equally to all that are allowed to legally own firearms.... That to me was a decidedly PRO 2nd amendment and pro gun move from the Obama administration.