Oh Boy..... BATFE Running Not Just Guns, But Drugs?
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Posted 2012-08-09 11:58
by Karl Denninger
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Oh Boy..... BATFE Running Not Just Guns, But Drugs?
 

Oh my.....

A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.

It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.

And not just guns..... worse.

Zambada-Niebla claims that under a “divide and conquer” strategy, the U.S. helped finance and arm the Sinaloa Cartel through Operation Fast and Furious in exchange for information that allowed the DEA, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies to take down rival drug cartels. The Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 as long as the intel kept coming.

In other words The Federal Government was allegedly involved in directly covering for the transportation and distribution of drugs into the United States, protecting the Sinaloa Cartel from prosecution.

The documents that detail the relationship between the federal government and the Sinaloa Cartel have still not been released or subjected to review — citing matters of national security.

Yeah, it's a matter of national security all right when our own government is conspiring with a criminal cartel to kill people both with guns and drugs, shipping them right into our cities.

Would I be surprised to learn that this is true?  Nope. 

It's not like we haven't done it before in myriad places around the world......

But "nobody committed any crimes", right?

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Can't have the BAT****S missing out on something the CIA has been making money from for decades right?

Not surprised...and frankly, I would take the word of ANY cartel member over our government officials...any day of the week.

Yea for Nov. 6th! smiley

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Different people have said for years that the government has been a willing participant in the drug trade and not to stop it but encourage it. This to me gives proof to that. the war on drugs is a complete farce.

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I wish I could say I was surprised at this...but I can't because I'm not.

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Going from memory here...no time to research...maybe others remember or can research...

Wasn't there a case of a Mexican drug trafficker killing a border agent with the end result being the Mexican government "touching base" with the US government (Bush/Obama Admin?) to secure the "scot-free" release of the drug trafficker back to Mexico?

Memory keeps recalling that is was a big "hub-bub" in the media for a while with the family crying foul and all..It was really odd that the Mexican Government stepped in to get this guy back...

Am I remembering right?

I wonder what Cartel that freed trafficker belonged to?

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Heh. Bush's fault - gotta be.


Not surprised in the least. The most successful gangsters are those with the badges.

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Why am I suddenly thinking of the movie "Clear and Present Danger"?

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Soon you'll see some very wild and obviously false allegations tied to this being pushed HARD on the internet and then picked up by the MSM.

They'll be used to cover up the real story and "prove" how "silly" the whole thing is.

Just like every other big and controversial subject for a long time.

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.gov to peasants: "We don't need no stinkin' rule of law."

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Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
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lets see the entire executive branch and the DOJ go to trial and then execution under the RICO act, the Sedition Act, the Patriot Act, the NDAA. First Degree Murder and Drug Smuggling.
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Sorry Mr D, but I don't believe anything Glenn Becky as to say. You have a better souce than this crap.


TheBlaze is a conservative news and opinion website owned by American media personality and former CNN Headline News and Fox News host Glenn Beck's.

I don't read or listen to this azzhole Your better than this nut.
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I'll give you a few minutes to read the actual court filings linked in this story.

The sort of personal attack (at anyone) you launched in my Ticker thread is cause for an immediate, no-notice ban. I'll be polite and allow you to retract it, but if you refuse or fail to do so, you're done.

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Woodman...how's this?
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfil....

It was in the original article, if you had bothered to look.

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Quote:
he documents that detail the relationship between the federal government and the Sinaloa Cartel have still not been released or subjected to review — citing matters of national security.

smiley

The only solution is fire and tears

But hey believe whatever you wish... It is after all a complete police state, a state that needs people believing in fairy tales

Every single one of the people that work for the ATF/DEA, two organizations who break the law and lie under oath as a matter of official department policy, is a traitor and responsible for the deaths of thousands, and the ruinations of many more thousands of lives.

All for the personal enrichment of the federal agents.

diaf bitches.

edit: i find it completely hilarious that they mention: Whitey Bulger. smiley Fine fine work by the thugs in the federal government



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Woodman wrote..
You have a better souce than this crap.

Obseedian wrote..
Woodman...how's this?
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfil....
It was in the original article, if you had bothered to look.


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Could the top ranks of the .gov be active in the drug business? I don't know. Guess we'd know if we looked at heroin production and transport in Afghanistan. If production and distribution of heroin was heading for extinction under the Taliban, surely our government has finished the job and snuffed out all aspects of that trade. Seriously, there is a growing season for poppies, so it can't be that difficult, right? We have been spending massively on the war on drugs, so surely we have won and illicit drugs are no more.

/sarc
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Look up Barry Seals. Great movie with Dennis Hopper called Double Crossed.

Governor W Bush used Barry's King Air for years

Oh and any truck driver knows you don't back haul an empty trailer.

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Woodman I suggest you think before posting such comments.
Beck and Karl would not post unless they checked it out, imo.
There was a link to Chicago sun times.
Not that I am a beck fanboi but every editor wants to avoid fraudulent articles.

Would not surprise me .gov brings drugs in to keep leos and feds in business busting 'Mericans for drugs. Hell if there ain't enough drugs around there ain't enough arrests. Its big business and CCA is booming.

'Mother should I trust the government ?' F no.

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That PDF has some pretty damning allegations in there. But it doesn't look like anyone in Congress wants to do a damn thing about it, really. Issa obviously knows about it, but doesn't give a ****. It's just Kabuki theater.

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But it doesn't look like anyone in Congress wants to do a damn thing about it

Of course not! That should be more than obvious...political shenanigans will be publicized only so far, but something like this affects the bottom line of both parties who have a vested interest in making sure **** like this continues.

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Well if it goes back to the bush days... you will loose some of the enthusiasm by the investigators in congress.
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It could go back to Bush I days. Think about Noriega rotting in prison. Maybe this is when the govt got in on the drug business.

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If they can guard poppie fields in Afghanistan, why not cocaine and guns in Mexico?
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