Kochevnik wrote..

The morons, the lazy, the criminals and the stupid made their beds - I have zero authority over any of it, therefore I have zero responsibility.

Some would say you are your brother's keeper and it is your responsibility as someone with the mental capacity to comprehend both the depth of the problem and the solution that you do all within your power to rectify the situation.

If you choose to have zero responsibility, then that is your choice.

(Never mind that in most of our cases it could be argued that it is through Karl's performance of his duty as he sees it that we even have such a choice to make at all...)

I've been hearing the world is gonna end in 6 months here and in other places for a long time now. Nobody knows. Just have to be prepared.

Yeah, this is all well and good, but most every election comes down to the lesser of two evils. It is rare to see any politician, at any level, that doesn't have a lot of skeletons in their closet, that doesn't have big money behind them, that doesn't have their own needs in front of the peoples needs.


My small town is a great example. The mayor makes $20,000 a year and it is considered a "part time" job. Local businesses and other people put up over $300,000 to get their "candidate" elected.

it used to be said, snidely in fact, something along the lines of...

oh the poor Russians, they just want to be ruled, they deserve what they get from the next dictator in chief.

then millions of Americans will go and pick their new masters...

how quaint.

it is impossible to live anywhere close to some of the things espoused in that video. As 99% of it is illegal, a good part of them are probably felonies to boot.

This is by Design

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No, they had to threaten to burn down Parliament to force their leaders to do what they were elected to do. The time for voting is over. The time for mass protests backed by the threat of action should begin now.

It's clear no matter who you elect our leaders are going to serve the criminals who got us in this mess. March on Washington with torches and burn it down if they don't arrest Jon Corzine and the rest of those criminals. Make them either follow the will of the people, arrest/shoot the protestors in mass, or burn congress down for failing in their constitutional duty. This is the only thing short of a revolution that's going to fix the problem.

God willing this can end peacefully like it did in Iceland.

So are you talking about a group of men showing up to DC with empty holsters and shirts that say this is the last time we come unarmed?

If so see the link: http://iiipercent.blogspot.com/p/america....

Rjazz117 wrote..

I'm sure Samuel Adams would disagree...

The British came after him, and remember the revolutionary war followed a long period of civil disobedience, free association, and non-association.

Don't wish for men to take up arms when most haven't even begun to protest with their voices and their votes, nor informed themselves of such need. It's absolute madness to suggest war when the majority of Americans lack the wisdom or unity of purpose to grasp even the peaceful tools that lay right in front of them.

Well, I'm waiting. Who would these kid actors vote for? The Mormon? Certainly sounds like it. I just don't see a third party candidate running "their" platform.
Please point one out, if you can. But, anyhow, they don't seem to be saying "throw your votes away on a third party" here. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but- - I don't see it.

The media has already crowned Obama/Romney as your only two choices. Neither will bring forth the principles espoused in the video (unless their definition of "strong military" = "continuing to spend trillions in the Middle East").

I bristle at vague videos like this that implore me to do the right thing, but don't offer any specifics. Care to tell us exactly how to defeat a monstrous media machine that chews up the mindless masses and spits them out?

The only way I see thoughtful Americans defeating the establishment is to use the power of the internet to coordinate Election Day as "Write-in Day", where everyone agrees to ignore Obama/Romney and write in a third name that has received little-to-no air play. Whether it's Ron Paul or someone else, the people have to stage an upset on their own with the write-in column.

Downrange wrote..

But, anyhow, they don't seem to be saying "throw your votes away on a third party" here. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but- - I don't see it.

I wish they did say that, but you're right. If this were a nonpartisan ad they'd at least mention somebody. One of the keys to 3rd party politics is "at least mention the guy's name". I know Romney doesn't really stand for any of this, but it sounds exactly like what Romney [/I]pretends to[/I] stand for. That is NO coincidence.