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Kajet
Posts: 30
Incept: 2011-11-13
Warsaw, Poland
Banned
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As a side note, Europeans have either never heard of the European Banking Authority or regard it as a complete laughingstock. The EBA has had to work hard to attain this status - they managed to make their "stress tests" of major banks even more stress-free than the U.S. ones. It was hard to gauge how stress-free they were designed to be because the EBA declined to reveal the details of their stress scenarios. However, the bankruptcies of "good to go" banks after each test was enough of a testament to both the assumptions and the methodology.
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Genesis
Posts: 130770
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Lying among banksters is a fine art indeed...
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Jal
Posts: 512
Incept: 2009-03-25
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Quote:... unbacked credit emission is fraud Its been operation for so long that it is considered to be the only normal operating system.
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Tristan
Posts: 572
Incept: 2009-04-08
Spirit of '76
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The Ticker wrote..We will never restore economic balance by stealing from one person to give to another. Yet the theft just gets more and more blatant. I recently saw that two-year vehicle registrations are an option in Ohio (maybe they have been for a bit, I don't know). A lot of people will do it to avoid one more miserable trip to the BMV (hmm actual incentive to provide a miserable customer experience), but the real intent is obviously to pull forward demand. The best part is that if you sell the vehicle or are in an accident or if it's stolen, etc., you are due no refund in fees from the state. Blatant theft. While thinking about how obscene this is, I did a quick search and saw that Oregon offers four-year registrations. 
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Genesis
Posts: 130770
Incept: 2007-06-26
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They started doing that in Florida too, and my immediate response was the same here on that as well.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Dji
Posts: 1245
Incept: 2009-04-21
Ponzi world 3rd rock from the sun
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I bought the 2 year tag when it was 38 bucks in FL the next year they jacked it up to 70 bucks a year so I won on that deal 
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Don't be a bag holder-Me
What goes up Must come Down- Alan Parsons Project
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Genesis
Posts: 130770
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Well yes, you "won" temporarily, as did I for those things I was reasonably sure I'd keep for two years. But this was simply a sop to cover up the fee increase.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Rvacha
Posts: 8295
Incept: 2008-10-03
Cleveland
Online
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One of the current discussions is the establishment of (another) banking authority/regulator other than EBA. The question is why would Germany (or anybody else for that matter) actually comply with *that* one? What a joke these people are
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"I suggest you panic." - Hugh Hendry
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Advise01
Posts: 50
Incept: 2011-08-02
Tampa
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I guess we need to start shooting bankers in the head so they don’t bite and affect anyone else. There have already been too many zombie attacks here in Florida I believe we need to contact the CDC and mobilize the National Guard and quarantine the banks and anyone who works at the banks. /sarcasm off Instructions from ehow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2156930_identify....Be aware of their intense desire to eat brains or babies covered in gold. Get away from them, preferably in a flight out of town, as fast as you can. And don't hole up in a shopping mall. Check out the pale, bloodless appearance to help identify a zombie. Zombies also appear in torn, musty clothing that barely covers their decaying flesh. There might even be bite marks from a fellow zombie, but if you can see this, you're way too close and might be a zombie yourself. Look for zombies if you're near a cemetery morgue or bank. You might find a particularly frisky one in your backyard if radiation or an epidemic or a CIO has placed a bad trade which has caused mass reanimation. In that case, barricade yourself in the house, but don't get stuck in the basement. Look out for forged documents to get you out on the street by POS attorneys. Identify staggering movements or surrounded by politicians with their hands out. Zombies never vary their pace (even drunks do that). They make rumbling, groaning noises as they lurch forward in search of their prey. If they're a "Return of the Living Dead" type zombie, they can actually talk. Smell the decomposing flesh. That's a good way to tell there's a zombie nearby even before you see them. Run when they try to bite you. Or burn them or beat them or best of all, annihilate their brain. *some content was updated for banks
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"Few political gifts are more richly rewarded, than the ability to convince parasites that they are victims." - Dr. Thomas Sowell
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Brian_cali
Posts: 182
Incept: 2011-10-22
San Francisco
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There is no "economy" anymore.
Consider that the market went UP significantly on Friday for a time with the bad news. Why? Because investors were excited that a slow market meant "more potential Fed action to address the situation."
Voluntary transaction for mutual benefit has been replaced with a centrally-planned currency system that forces people to borrow and spend or have their savings destroyed over time either through fraud (MF Global) or zero yield. Of course, if you do chase yield, you'll be "investing" in things like California muni bonds (oops) or subprime auto loans (yikes) or some of Silicon Valley's awesome IPOs (the average performance of the Valley IPOs for the last 18 months is -49%).
The only way to make a significant return is to be the guy who packages up the loan, runs the brokerage that spirits off your cash, or owns the "shares" in the startup that he dumps on IPO day for a huge personal profit.
So people sit out of the game and it continues to get worse... forcing "more Fed intervention."
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9522
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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M2, the Fed’s narrow measure of “money” supply, M2 just surpassing $10 Trillion for the first time. It surpassed $1 Trillion for the first time in 1975. It made it past $2 Trillion in 1983, $4 Trillion in 1997, $8 Trillion in 2008 and $9 Trillion in April 2011. M2 has inflated another Trillion during the past 15 months. Monetary Madness: http://prudentbear.com/index.php/creditb....
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Mannfm11
Posts: 3545
Incept: 2009-02-28
DFW, Tx
Online
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We have reached the end game of absurdity. The problem is there is too much debt and it has to be liquidated. But, liquidation upsets the statist applecart, so they patch, use accounting tricks of pretense and we go on. Everything is supposed to be risk free, except personal finance. Somehow, banks have been endowed with a Freddy Kruger type existence. The patch is always more debt levied on someone else. We have Bankia, a concoction of zombies, supported by new instruments peddled on the savers of Spain. Another black hole. Who gets ****ed? Not those that were bailed out when it was formed, but the new money brought in to save the game. Creditanstalt, which blew up and some say caused the depression (it was only the first one to blow and it could have easily been another bank) lives on as UniCredit. Wachovia lives on as Wells, Bear Stearns as JPM, Republic National of Dallas as Bank of America and so on. Nothing is ever cleared out, just continually pyramided. With the trillions down the drain, a lot of this could have been fixed, if only they had forced those taking the risk to lose their money. Is buying a low yield bond any different than buying one of these low yield dotbomb, social media stocks? Are the real value of both inflated to the point the yield merely looks small due to price? Risk was mispriced and it is still mispriced. I listen to these idiots on CNBS, read the stuff in the media and it dawns on me the Euro needs to be repriced, like to a dime. Let the cat out of the bag quickly and see how long this charade of theft can really go on before even unarmed citizens start raising hell. The amount of loot left is getting thin. I think we all know the next screwing coming out of government is to loot what is left of the upper middle class and finish hollowing out what has already been hollowed out. There aren't many bones left to throw. The latest Doug Noland is worth reading at this stage, as Doug is rarely ever wrong. They are merely building a bigger bomb. http://prudentbear.com/index.php/creditb....
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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9522
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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Mann, I posted the link to Noland's latest right about your post. It's definitely a good one this week. I suspect you read him every week (when he posts). You might recall he eluded in the previous weeks CBB that he suspected we might get a monster rally due to "excessively bearish hedges," - and he was right. Who would have thought with AAPL, SBUX, FB, and other major companies reporting disappointing earnings that stocks would finish the week up sharply.....
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Captainkidd
Posts: 594
Incept: 2010-05-25
Pasadena, Texas
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Quote:Consider that the market went UP significantly on Friday for a time with the bad news. Why? Because investors were excited that a slow market meant "more potential Fed action to address the situation." It's Pavlov's dog zombies. They hear the bell bad news, and begin salavating for the food money that their master the fed will soon be giving them.
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A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a thousand men with guns. --Mario Puzo
It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. -- Henry Ford
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Themortgagedude
Posts: 8853
Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis
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I'll pay $2000 right now to never have to visit DMV. I know why they are able to do this.
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I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth.
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Tristan
Posts: 572
Incept: 2009-04-08
Spirit of '76
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Hmm you make it sound a bit like racketeering, TMD--this whole DMV business...
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Uwe
Posts: 6455
Incept: 2009-01-03
19446
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Quote:I'll pay $2000 right now to never have to visit DMV. Are there really still States in which you have to visit the DMV to renew your registration? In PA, renewals have been handled by mail for as long as I can remember. You can also renew on-line, and if you forget to do either and you're looking at an expired registration, there are numerous privately owned and operated "Auto Tags" places where you can do it instantly for a surcharge. In FL, renewals can also be done by mail and (I think) on-line. We did have to go to the local tax collector's office to get a car previously registered in PA registered down here. Went in with the PA title, left with FL registration, plates, and title 45 minutes later. -Uwe-
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“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” - John Locke
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Captainkidd
Posts: 594
Incept: 2010-05-25
Pasadena, Texas
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Quote:Went in with the PA title and a couple of hundred dollars , left with FL registration, plates, and title and a lighter wallet, 45 minutes later. If you were in Texas, it would have been more like this. **************************************************
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A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a thousand men with guns. --Mario Puzo
It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. -- Henry Ford
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Justme2c
Posts: 26
Incept: 2011-09-29
NYC
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NY has 2 year registrations now; if you know to ask, you can get most of the second year fees back as long you turn in your plates by the last day of the first year. Driver's licenses just increased to 6 years (which seems dangerously long to me). It's obvious they are pulling revenue forward. They also offer an "enhanced" drivers license now, with some sort of international use, like a super-ID for border crossings. (I don't recall the specs, I didn't need it.)
Transferring a title between individuals is odd. They require proof of ownership and also proof of the birth date of the prior owner. How would you like to provide a copy of your birth certificate or driver's license to some random person from Craigslist along with your old car?
I get my 1995 Ford Escort serviced out of state when I visit Mom. That dealership recently had a promo offering 115% trade in value, 0% financing trying to get people to trade-up to newer or new. The sales guy I talked to said there is a shortage of older used cars. Of course, Obama put them into crushers.
Reason: added info
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Genesis
Posts: 130770
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Driver licenses have been 6 years forever in Florida, but now are EIGHT, and you can renew once by mail or Internet provided you qualify (I believe there is a cutoff age, 65 I think, and in addition you cannot have more than one or two tickets.)
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Phxkevin
Posts: 353
Incept: 2010-06-25
Phoenix Arizona
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Quote: Driver's licenses just increased to 6 years In Arizona, your license is good until age 65. Not sure of the renewal process once past 65. From time to time, you do need to get a new picture. A long extension on your license is as close as you can get to not requiring government permission to exercise your inalienable right to travel. Better not to require a license, or plates or insurance. Oh, we don't have inspections of vehicles either. The feds require a smog in certain metro areas. Arizona as a state government does do some things poorly. But they have the right idea on driver's license.
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Congress persons are all the same, republican or democrat, conservative or liberal. They talk a good game, but the results (or lack thereof) show something different.
Reason: Its a far from perfect place to live
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Asimov
Posts: 104034
Incept: 2007-08-26
East Tennessee Eastern Time
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Looks like TN is still 4 years (as of 4 years ago anyway.)
Glad you all made me look at my license, because it expires on my bday next month and I didn't realize it.
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity. If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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