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Visualcsharp
Posts: 343
Incept: 2009-12-19
Round Rock, TX
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One must wonder what it's going to take for the so-called "death penalty" to be applied. Murder? Theft? If not child rape, then what? I also want to see audited proof that the $60 million fine goes directly and wholly to a good charity, if not directly to the families involved.
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Antone
Posts: 7862
Incept: 2008-02-03
Seditionia, USSA
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Nuke the Vatican from space. It's the only way to be sure.
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As if anything has changed:
Wir sind gefickt.
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Tesla
Posts: 15561
Incept: 2008-04-03
State of Disbelief
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Visual - that $60 million fine is going to come from the pockets of the fine taxpayers of Pennsylvania. That's just wrong.
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"Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked." -Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
"Neither the wisest Constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." -Samuel Adams
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Genesis
Posts: 131486
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Yep. The just way to handle this is to sell the assets and distribute THOSE.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Nevertoolate
Posts: 1222
Incept: 2007-08-26
San Antonio de Bexar de runover with illegals, Texas
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How about making the Banksters next?
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"Socialist never mind stealing, as long as they are the ones doing the stealing. They never mind lying, as long as they are doing the lying."-Mannfm11
Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure that you can survive the odds beating you.
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Genesis
Posts: 131486
Incept: 2007-06-26
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The same thing applies to banksters.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Pattonme
Posts: 39
Incept: 2011-09-27
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uhhh, PSU anyone?
Where are the criminal inditements of the Athletic office at least or the general administration officials? Where are the charges against the janitor, and that asst coach who *witnessed* the crime? They should be brought up for the EXACT same thing as this Monseignor. Where are the fines against PSU for damages? How about forfeiture of league certification for the same number of years child******was committed and tolerated for their football program and all program moneys including championship, TV, and bowl fees to be forfeited to the victims?
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Ilikecoffee
Posts: 1563
Incept: 2008-04-17
cold , AK
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By that logic, sell and distrubute the assets of Penn State.
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You can trust the government, ask any American Indian.
"When people lose everything and they have nothing left to lose, they lose it" Gerald Celente
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Genesis
Posts: 131486
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Yes Ilike. That's exactly what should happen -- at least those of the athletic department, and perhaps the entire university.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Cashonly
Posts: 58
Incept: 2011-11-23
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Remember, corporations (corporate institutions) are people too...
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Vitchilo
Posts: 4990
Incept: 2011-04-27
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Gee with that precedent, time to arrest the pope and his buddies next time he comes in the US.
Same goes for congress for allowing all the financial fraud and not doing a thing about it, even giving them bailouts.
Same goes for state governors/legislature lying about the pension funds.
Etc...
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We hang the petty thieves and promote the great ones to office.
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Genesis
Posts: 131486
Incept: 2007-06-26
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There's an argument for it in the case of the Vatican; they pulled the infamous Boston guy back to Italy to prevent his prosecution and gave him a Bascilica to run over there, depriving his victims of the opportunity to obtain justice.
Unfortunately we have no jurisdiction beyond our borders, but we sure as hell do here in the United States.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Debtpie
Posts: 534
Incept: 2009-12-17
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1000 word picture (click to enlarge)
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A Leader, or an Opportunist? "A leader has the capacity of vision, the ability to see where things are headed before people in general see those things." Mitt Romney --- DebtPie's definition: a leader decides where "things" should head and "leads" us there.
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Wearedoomed
Posts: 3611
Incept: 2009-01-14
slightly red state
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Lies, all of it.
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Noodleman
Posts: 2509
Incept: 2008-11-01
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This is a good start - but there should have been dozens of these enablers arrested and jailed years ago.
Ask any vice cop from decades gone by. Many departments routinely caught priests looking for willing partners in the parks at night. Few were charged. Mainly turned over to the bishops for internal action. Even repeat offenders. The cross and the sword has always had mutual cooperation. I bet if the truth were told about local governments turning a blind eye to sexual abuse of children by priests in the 20th century it would make Penn State look like a Sunday school picnic.
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"It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country." William James Durant, 5 Nov 1885 - 7 Nov 1981
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Duc888
Posts: 7368
Incept: 2008-11-06
CT, the UNconstitution State
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Quote:How about making banksters next. Just for you. On prime time TV. Read the whole article. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/lieborgate....oh, and re the original topic? Wait till you see what's coming down the pike regarding the finances of the Vatican.
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...burp
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Bigcowboy
Posts: 557
Incept: 2010-03-12
Michigan
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More commentary from SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests): Quote:
We are grateful that Msgr. Lynn was not able to escape with the minimum sentence for his years of concealing heinous crimes against children. But cover ups would be better deterred had he gotten the maximum penalty, and justice would have been better served.
Considering all the kids whose innocence was shattered (or, in some whose lives were lost to suicide), we believe that Msgr. Lynn deserved the harshest punishment.
Still, this sentence sends a powerful message: cover-up child sex crimes and you’ll go to jail. Not house arrest. Not community service. Not a fine. You’ll be locked up.
It says, loud and clear, that child sex crimes are taken extremely seriously, and will be punished as such.
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We hope that those who see, suspect or suffer child sex crimes in any institutional setting will find the strength to come forward and make a report to police, especially now, since the Lynn case shows that sometimes, justice, prevention and healing are possible.
Webpage: http://www.snapnetwork.org/pa_msgr_lynn_....-BigCowboy |
Mayorviolet
Posts: 67
Incept: 2010-09-16
Philadelphia, PA
Banned
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Within about five seconds of the verdict, local Philly television had a comment from the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, bemoaning the severity of the sentence and advocating its reduction, presumably on appeal. On the other hand, I was a little miffed that the judge didn't turn over the deed to the Basilica of Sts. Peter and Paul to the victims and order that St. Charles Seminary (Chuck's Monk House) be boarded up immediately. As to Penn State and its many sanctimonious area graduates, in various states of high dudgeon over the defrocking of St. Joe, what part of "child abuse" don't you dimwits understand?
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