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Kylafoon
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The evil of this Administration is unbelievable...
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Fraudster
Posts: 4175
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I agree that Obama is not good for 2nd Amendment rights. But is Romney? I am so fed up with US national level elections, I want to just 
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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Mpilar
Posts: 5613
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Quote:The evil of this Administration GOVERNMENT (this is not a R or D issue!) is unbelievable...
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
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Harley
Posts: 19
Incept: 2011-09-22
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For that matter, what does Race have to do with buying a firearm?
I'm actually surprised that this distinction wasn't made earlier. Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity not a race. On census forms and other government data collection, they always separate this out.
I guess it will make it easier the next time they want to charge a "white Hispanic" with murder.
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Et
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This has been happening in a number of different areas that gather racial statistics for a while now. Hispanic isn't considered a race anymore, it's a separate modifier now that can apply to any race. That's why George Zimmerman is a White Hispanic. They must have just finally updated this form.
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Fraudster
Posts: 4175
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Exactly Mpilar. If you are Hispanic, is your gripe on this issue fixed by voting for Romney? No. You can't vote for Gary Johnson since he seems to be supportive of the fraud. What recourse do you have? As far as I am concerned, voting in the ballot booth is a worthless exercise and it is not until the people coalesce into a single voice, and engage in some peaceful protest, that we will ever see any real change. And not a second before then. Let's just hope that the security apparatus doesn't become oppresive, but with DHS buying 100's of millions of rounds of hollow point bullets, the Patriot Act, NDAA indefinite detention provsions, etc. I don't hold much hope of that happening.
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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]." - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov
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Winstonsmith2009
Posts: 1060
Incept: 2009-08-05
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"What does being Hispanic have to do with purchasing a gun?"
What a silly question. They want to make sure that Mexican drug cartel members are given a special discount.
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Mpilar
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Quote: and it is not until the people coalesce into a single voice, and engage in some peaceful protest, that we will ever see any real change. Fixed...nothing "peaceful" fixes this...GUARANTEED. I was intending on voting Nov 6th, by filling out a 4473 instead of the masturbation everyone else will be doing in their community centers...but this has me thinking of other ways to send my message...do I really want to justify their bull**** more by filling out the form? Or should I schedule several private party purchases on that day making sure to inform the world through ciabook? Questions, questions, questions...
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
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Noodleman
Posts: 2393
Incept: 2008-11-01
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The gov is trying to find a scapegoat for 'Fast and Furious' So to deflect blame it implies that a race of people is accountable and must be given greater scrutiny when purchasing firearms. Holder was probably the mastermind behind the new race item in the 4473.
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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935
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Asimov
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Waitaminute.
It asks for race, and then asks if you're hispanic in another question?
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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Donethat
Posts: 771
Incept: 2009-04-22
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Ehh, for all those who haven't applied for a job in years, they ask if you are hispanic or latin on the equal opportunity race question. Of course you are NOT required to state.
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Dwedeking
Posts: 915
Incept: 2009-02-17
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I belong to a website that sends out market research surveys for which I get fake dollars which I then trade in for miles on the local airline. I've noticed on a number of these surveys that for background information they ask if your latino/hispanic or not, and then the next question is what race you are. I understand tracking race on surveys to get a picture of the demographics but why would they first designate hispanic or not and then which race? It seems the same with this form, so again why specifically hispanic?
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Looks like we're getting close to "CRUNCH" time.
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Kwerk
Posts: 908
Incept: 2009-03-02
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Quote:Waitaminute.
It asks for race, and then asks if you're hispanic in another question? It asks if you're latino or not, then it asks what race you are. You know if you are Asian or Hawaian latino. Whereas before it was one question with latino as a race option. Obviously they will be forced to choose "white". So now all those cartel guns are officially bought by white people. So this is not racist against hispanics, it's actually pro hispanic political correctness. It shifts hispanic crime in to the "white" pile to hide it. |
2dogs
Posts: 2941
Incept: 2009-03-25
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Many government statistics do not separate Whites from Latinos/Hispanics. For example, the Census breaks the population down into the following percentages... White 78.1% Black 13.1% American Indian and Alaska Native 1.2% Asian 5% Multiracial 2.3% It then further breaks "White" down into... Hispanic or Latino Origin 16.7% White not Hispanic 63.4% http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/....Seems they're now trying to break out gun ownership by Whites to differentiate between Hispanic or Latino Origin and White not Hispanic. Otherwise, they all would still have been classified as White. I agree, though, race shouldn't matter when it comes to gun ownership. It's a Constitutional right that has NOTHING to do with race.
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You can't defeat the combined effects of massive voter fraud, the Free **** Army, and the entire bought and paid for media complex. This nation is done.
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Debtpie
Posts: 534
Incept: 2009-12-17
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eth·nic·i·ty - traits, background, allegiance, or association Race - A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics. Interesting separation of classifications/definitions... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote:I agree, though, race shouldn't matter when it comes to gun ownership. It's a Constitutional right that has NOTHING to do with race. Your race (so far) doesn't decide whether or not you get a gun...looks like they just want to know who to round up first when the goal is to confiscate all (legally purchased) guns...
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Turningtide4536
Posts: 33
Incept: 2011-12-16
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They changed the form to inquire about an applicant's "Hispanicity" so that they can "profile" Hispanics, get them in an uproar, and give Obummer a golden opportunity to cater to the Hispanic vote by promising to change the form back to its original design.
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Frat
Posts: 1935
Incept: 2009-07-15
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How much more ****ed up can 'they' get?
I'd like to say 'this is unbelievable!' but I can't any longer. Bush did a LOT of **** I didn't agree with and will never forgive him for, but Obongo - DAMN - the **** that's come out of the .gov since he's been in is ****ing mind-boggling. Yesterday's ****ing Tin really IS today's headline(s).
Quotes are interesting, but so overused in my opinion. But considering Fraudster's comments above, JFK had this one right:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
Are we there yet? I honestly do not know. But we sure as HELL are on the path, and have traveled a great distance already. (Time for adding me to another .gov watch list)
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We're ****ed. Where's Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Et
Posts: 12
Incept: 2010-06-10
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Thinking about it a little more, wouldn't Hispanics be a closer fit to the Native American category?
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Phxkevin
Posts: 353
Incept: 2010-06-25
Phoenix Arizona
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Hispanic a relationship to Spain or to ancient Hispania.
You can be a blue eyed blond that is Hispanic. I know some.
Everyone uses a different definition so that everyone can be right.
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Congress persons are all the same, republican or democrat, conservative or liberal. They talk a good game, but the results (or lack thereof) show something different.
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Bagbalm
Posts: 4262
Incept: 2009-03-19
Just North of Detroit
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Dear me, what will they do with Oriental Hispanics?
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Noodleman
Posts: 2393
Incept: 2008-11-01
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If the gov differentiated between 'white of hispanic descent' vs 'white of euro descent' too many truthisms would get revealed w/ regard to crime stats and incarcerations. Lump it all together and it's more palatable on paper.
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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2700
Incept: 2007-08-19
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Quote:You can be a blue eyed blond that is Hispanic. I have Asturian (from Asturias, Spain)cousins who are blond and blue eyed. Quote:Dear me, what will they do with Oriental Hispanics? You mean people like President Fujimori, past leader of Peru? There's lots of them and they are a very common Race and Ethnic combination which is rising in Latin America and many are immigrating here. Some Latin American Indian (Inca and Toltec, for example) produce facial and body characteristics that look very much like certain Asians as well. BTW, the FFL renewal and initial application forms have had the Hispanic/Latino ethnicity and race question on it for at least a year. Funny, they don't ask for any Middle Eastern ethnicity or races, or for that matter, Eastern European as well.
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Smaug
Posts: 75
Incept: 2007-12-10
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I think Kwerk nailed it.
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Bjonsson
Posts: 350
Incept: 2010-03-10
California
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And don't forget that there are black Hispanics as well. Dominicans, Cubans, etc.
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