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Musicandnature
Posts: 1951
Incept: 2007-12-05
NJ
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that walsh dude has to go down. Yeah 'the people' committed all the fraud with no help from banks. uh-huh. We are not smart enough (most of us at least- I know TF has many brilliant minds) to dream up the schemes these WS and DC criminals have perpetrated.
Let's bring back tar-and-feathering or honey-and-fire ants !
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Since it costs a lot to win, and even more to lose, You and me bound to spend some time wonder'n what to choose. Goes to show, you don't ever know, watch each card you play and play it slow...Wait until that deal come round, don't you let that deal go down, no no. Garcia/Hunter.
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Landshark
Posts: 11255
Incept: 2008-02-07
The Wild West
Online
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I wish these people would just shut up and make great music.
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Success in life is a matter not so much of talent and opportunity as of concentration and perseverance.
– C. W. Wendte
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Swrichmond
Posts: 327
Incept: 2009-02-12
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Did much / most of the tea party leadership sell out?
Yes.
Is Cenk what's-his-name a left wing shill who is only too happy to try to demotivate the conservatives by pointing out their faults going in to an election year?
Of Course. Expect much much more of this in the coming months.
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Genesis
Posts: 130716
Incept: 2007-06-26
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What "conservatives"?
You mean the ones who went to Washington in 2010 on a promise of "no more debt" and yet have voted repeatedly for both debt increases and continuing resolutions without which the debt accumulation would instantly stop?
Oh those folks?
STOP LYING TO BOTH YOURSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE.
Those who keep rationalizing this bull**** are leading me to want to shut this place down.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Themortgagedude
Posts: 8849
Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis
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Yep until the conservatives give us any real cuts in government instead of cuts in future growth of government I'll continue to call them out as the frauds they are.
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I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth.
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Wood911
Posts: 8
Incept: 2011-10-16
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The fact that somebody takes a donation from a person or group doesn't necessarily mean they have been bought. There doesn't appear to be much push from congress to investigate the bailouts, tho. There are still not enough people elected by the Tea Party/conservative movement to be able to set an agenda in DC. I intend to keep supporting the candidates that I believe will try to change things. Getting the right people to congress is more an artform than a science. It would be great if the Tea Party was batting a 1.000 but to say an entire group has been compromised because some choices haven't worked out is equally ridiculous.
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Tylerd
Posts: 41
Incept: 2008-05-16
Belton, TX
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Couldn't we run some sort of game theory model with the assumption that they would act in their own perceived best interest?
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Sean
Posts: 1766
Incept: 2009-04-21
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I'm in love with the (other host) - the young woman of The Young Turks!
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* I think Ann Barnhardt is more and more right. God help us!
* Progressives / Marxists / Communists are many things, STUPID and IMPATIENT are not two of them.
* A hot civil war is coming.
* And people wonder why I prep!
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Winstonsmith2009
Posts: 1060
Incept: 2009-08-05
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Ribbit
Posts: 1780
Incept: 2007-09-10
Wales, UK
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Tylerd: "Couldn't we run some sort of game theory model with the assumption that they would act in their own perceived best interest?"
If it's a game theory model, that is entirely what it is built and presumed upon.
The Game Theory assumption is, that everyone is a psychopath or sociopath (no, I am not joking, and I wish I was, especially when just about every Government 'Think Tank' and advisor/NGO type body in the WORLD, uses it to model Society and advise accordingly).
That's why it never works in real life, because that's not how 99% (ish) of people actually are. Not a single real life experiment, has verified game theory, it fails at every one of them, yet STILL the nonsense continues (because game theory tells the psychopaths and sociopaths, exactly what they want to hear - it justifies their insane actions for them).
This is how we have now ended up with the tiny minority that are psychopaths and sociopaths taking over the 'asylum' - literally every walk of life from top to bottom, and pretty much in every Country.
PS there's a lot of Google search hits if you look for Corporate psychopaths. I haven't come across anyone yet making the leap to them being in Government and Bureaucracy as well though - they are, and they are co-operating with the Corporate psychopaths as well.
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If the State was a Nanny, it would have been fired for incompetence, unreliability, and having its hands in the till, a very long time ago now.
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54705
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Sunkeye
Posts: 190
Incept: 2010-12-14
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man would i dig if this cenk dude kept your name in play
the guy reminds me of ratigan there's a balliness about both
i like
and their followers are true believers will follow their lead
so in my dream world both guys keep the name denninger in the mix
by continually referencing him like this vid fr'instance
and kd is pulled kicking & screaming into the arena
NOW THAT I WOULD REALLY DIG
karl you are da man man
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yeah i know i know wipe the jizz off my face but i don't care
bring the mockery
kd is the only ****er w/ balls enough (& $$$ enough?) to speak
truth come hell or high water
i love it
cenk dylan karl --- 3 badasses i can believe in
and believe me i need somebody to believe in NOW
differences in political leanings i can handle no problem
just give me smart men who are willing to work for the common good
differences workoutable via mutual respect and honorable goals
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Mannfm11
Posts: 3539
Incept: 2009-02-28
DFW, Tx
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Hell of a note isn't it. Now we have a spook as the Lib candidate as well.
Maybe we need a movement called "Take our Money Back".
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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
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Steelhead23
Posts: 2041
Incept: 2008-09-09
Portland OR
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Look, this is about money, not ideology. The TP Republicans were not convinced to change their spots through intellectual questing and rational argument. They was bribed. Like your nice cushy digs in DC? Like being invited to cocktail parties in G-town? Here's the deal. We (banksters) will bankroll you. Just remember this - the banks aren't the problem - the problem is deadbeat borrowers and an enabling Congress. Stick to that line, and we'll bankroll you all the way to the White House. Go after the banks and we would bankroll your opposition and you will find yourself back in Kansas, selling siding.
Gen gave me a raspberry for suggesting that the Citizen's United case was wrongly decided. Basically, the argument is that our First Amendment rights give us the right to spend as much as we want to be heard - from megaphones to broadband. I get that, and the legal argument sure has merit. But, if we fail to get money out of politics - or at least to get big money out of politics, this sort of bait and switch will dog this democracy until it fails.
In a way, the TP argument is correct - government is the problem. That is a government of pimps and panderers cannot lead this country. We may never be able to stop the pandering (Obama gonna pay ma mortgage), but we could put an end to the pimping if we could find a way to get big money out of politics. Until then, the likes of David Koch will kick the likes of Karl Denninger to the curb, again and again and again.
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"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" —Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild Benjamin Bernanke
For-profit commercial banks are a menace and should be eradicated
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Mrbill
Posts: 7846
Incept: 2008-10-19
North Carolina
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Steelhead, you're making progress.
Now, how I see it, "the money in politics" is the $6 trillion that US governments (fed, state, local) spend every single year.
The only answer is less government. It's far too big to be effectively managed by everyone on the outside.
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Swrichmond
Posts: 327
Incept: 2009-02-12
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There are genuine fiscal conservatives in some of the Tea Party organizations. I am one of them, and I know some more. Most are very mis-educated regarding economics and have been taught to mistrust a real free market.
Anyone with a network TV show is either controlled op or licks the hand that feeds them, including Ratigan et al. The MSNBC types rail about the banks, and then say that the solution is more regulation. The Fox types rail about regulation, but agree with bailouts and the existence of the Federal Reserve. Neither wants a true free market. That's not what they get paid to advocate.
This Cenk fellow, in the video posted, seems content to merely demotivate true fiscal conservatives by telling them the Tea Party is a waste of time. Did he go on to say we should be libertarians? I didn't see that part.
I know you hate the Tea Party, Karl, believe me, it's obvious. You have set up this site as educational, and I agree 100% with that mission. Too few critical thinkers in politics, and virtually none of them understands or truly believes in the free market. Their campaign speech-writers know what words to put in their mouths, that's the extent of it.
I've caught Cenk while channel-surfing before, and IMO he's just another left wing shill. It's nice he got your name out, but what else did he do with it? Did he suggest visiting your site? Did he tell his viewers you're a libertarian? Or did he just engage in some "divide-and-conquer" to help out the Obama reelection campaign?
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Wis/min
Posts: 5362
Incept: 2009-08-14
On the border
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Quote:This Cenk fellow, in the video posted, seems content to merely demotivate true fiscal conservatives Cenk's views are quite liberal and not supportive of the tea party or conservatism. |
Jack_crabb
Posts: 2406
Incept: 2010-06-25
Peoples' Republik of Maryland
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Yet is it not quite illustrative of the times in which we exist when the hard left and the hard right actually agree on certain things - like TBTF, bailouts, banking crooks, etc.
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Molon Labe
Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Wis/min
Posts: 5362
Incept: 2009-08-14
On the border
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Far too few voices from the left or right in congress that seem to care jack. :-(
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Jack_crabb
Posts: 2406
Incept: 2010-06-25
Peoples' Republik of Maryland
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Congresscritters are like the honeybadger, "they don't give a ****".
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Molon Labe
Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Wis/min
Posts: 5362
Incept: 2009-08-14
On the border
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Quote:Congresscritters are like the honeybadger, "they don't give a ****". Waiting for the day when "none of the above" is on the ballot. |
Jack_crabb
Posts: 2406
Incept: 2010-06-25
Peoples' Republik of Maryland
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To paraphrase Lowbeyond: you still vote?!
lol.
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Molon Labe
Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Options
Posts: 152
Incept: 2007-09-03
Chicago
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Am I the only one to notice KD has lost weight since that clip? Bravo for you Karl. Everyone is looking for a magic pill and you found it in working hard to get yourself in arguably the best shape of your life. You derserve a pat on the back now that you can reach it! LOL!
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I think we should drink, heavily.
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Bertdilbert
Posts: 2656
Incept: 2008-12-22
CA
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Not sure I would want to be used to prove my point about being right as a tool for Young Turks.... But if you are ignored by the MSM, I guess you take it from where you can get it.
Turks is more like "we have to keep spending to keep from going bankrupt."
Their primary goal seems to be trying to save all the public sector jobs and they were very instrumental in raising the ire with Trayvon Martin. Heavily spun show, not a place to get facts, that is for sure. It is the Alex Jones of the liberal media would be the best discription.
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Dear Euroland: Relax, Germany has a plan for your money!
Political Capital Defined: We are out of money but will tax our citizens for whatever it takes to "SAVE" the Euro.
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