Oh Look, A (Backhanded) Admission Of Fraud!
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Posted 2012-05-23 08:22
by Karl Denninger
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Oh Look, A (Backhanded) Admission Of Fraud!
 

I love it when this sort of thing happens....

The U.S. economy will probably tip back into recession next year if Congress fails to address an impending “fiscal cliff,”the Congressional Budget Office said.

The nonpartisan agency said in a report late yesterday that the economy would contract at an annual rate of 1.3 percent in the first half of 2013 if lawmakers allow the George W. Bush-era tax cuts to expire and $1.2 trillion in government spending cuts to take effect in January.

"Fails to address"?

Is this an admission that the so-called "growth" of those years (and up until now) was a fraud?  You bet it is.

Remember this graph?

So let's look at 2000 - 2008 for how of a "spread" this has been, and how much fake money was showing up in alleged "GDP" that was not real, but instead was simply expansion of debt in the system.

The answer?  $13.1 trillion dollars, or awfully close to a full year's worth of economic output.

That's what our bankrupt policies did to us over just eight years.

And no, the previous administrations going back to 1980 were not "clean" in this regard, nor is President Obama now.  All have done the same thing; they're just changing exactly how they try to hide the rot.  Some paint over it, some hang a flag over it, some dupe you with various schemes like housing bubbles and worthless (or nearly so) IPOs.

How much damage must be absorbed to return the economy to balance?  An amazing amount.  And the worse news is that we cannot take a decade or more to do it, since the longer you wait to do it the more damage you're inflicting.

Europe is playing the same game we are.  Their banks are "unprepared" for a Greek exit from the Euro because they were not forced to take their leverage down nor to stop creating credit against nothing after 2008, just as our banks were not.  Their governments, like our government, loves that "cheap credit fix" and continues to abuse it to this day.

The CBO's plaintive bleating is amusing to listen to, as is Eric Cantor and others arguing over "which way" to address this problem.  Nobody on either side of the aisle is actually talking about addressing anything, because the only way to address the problem is to stop spending more than we make.

And that, for many people, means what amounts to a "sudden stop" faces them in their daily lives.

Rather than tell people to deal with it in 2008 among the "elites" who led the world off the cliff, we instead coddled them and allowed them to lie, and lie they did.  Rather than force the leverage out of the system by refusing to support it with government games and debasement of the people's purchasing power, we instead continued the same bankrupt policies that got us in trouble.  And rather than deal with the truth now, we instead wave our arms and play partisan politics with intentionally-fraudulent "budget proposals" from Ryan and equally-fraudulent bleating about the rich "paying their fair share" from Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

Neither side will simply put its foot down and say "there will be no more deficit spending -- period" -- and back it up by refusing to move and pass a single spending bill until the budget is balanced.  Neither side can claim to be "right" as both are spending money they do not have and therefore are committing an active and intentional fraud upon the people of this nation.  The same fraud is being committed in Europe.

The problem is that the old game is running out of rope, as the people have figured out that it doesn't work any more.  Their purchasing power is in the toilet, stocks are starting to sink under the pressure of the fraud, spreads are blowing out in the credit market (again) as traders are (correctly) surmising that there's no way they'll get paid and recognition is starting to dawn on people that the first guy who runs for the door might make it through before the crush of bodies turns into a mash of blood and guts.

There's no excuse for this folks.  There never has been and never will be.  Fraud is never excusable and it is not a mistake.  None of the participants in this game are innocent nor are they ignorant. 

They're liars and they are undeserving of not only your vote, but also your respect and deference until and unless a confession of sins is made and the truth is brought front and center for public debate.

There's no indication that any of that will happen and as such I fully expect that before the election the entirety of this fraudfest is going to come crashing down around our heads, much as it did in 2008 -- but this time, with central banks having already played their "QE" cards and interest rate games there will be no stopping it.

Make sure you remember who's responsible for this when you are once again trashed as the economic and financial system come apart -- if you see a lawmaker on TeeVee or pontificating in print, they're responsible and should be held personally to account -- irrespective of which major party they hail from.

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No one could see this coming.

I wonder if saying that will work again this time, like it did back in 2008.

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Call it socialism, corporate welfare, social welfare, what the **** ever you prefer.

It ALL goes back to Statism - building the federal government and it's enablers increasingly larger and more powerful.

And BOTH the major parties are equally guilty of this bull****, with NO signs of stopping, or hell - they're not even SLOWING down.

I can't wait for the epic ****storm of collapse. We deserve it.

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Frat not all of us deserve it, that is the problem. Many 'played by the rules' all their lives and are screwed by the actions of the others who didn't, or made the rules inapplicable to themselves.
Hell we even told Congress NO bank bailout in 2008 with massive fax campaign etc..they ignored us. The country is now fooked, an exponential level greater than the .com bust. I was at a yard sale and the woman was talking to neighbors saying there are 5 on her block she knows have not paid mortgage in a year..one 4 years. How are we going to fix this mess if the banks won't take their losses ? (sorry if this strays off topic/thread Gen)

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Hell we even told Congress NO bank bailout in 2008 with massive fax campaign etc..they ignored us.

And then you voted them back into office two weeks later.

Stop bull****ting yourself and everyone else.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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No, we all have it coming.

We should have shut it all down and should have stayed out in the street until the problem was addressed. Some people here did.

I my self did not.

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Yep.

There were two dozen -- roughly -- of us who showed up in DC in August of 2008, and before that in NY.

The rest of you stayed home, including the thousands who were and are users here.

And how many voted for the CONGRESSPERSON who was in office in 2008 when it happened? MOST OF YOU, and even today there are still a HUGE number of people here on this forum who claim that they MUST vote for one of those folks who was and is in office now "because the alternative is the end of America."

**** that bull****; you're deluding yourselves.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?

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"fiscal cliff" is a term we will be hearing a lot of in the coming months. Almonst sounds like the name of a Soap opera actor.

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is the link screwed up for anyone else?

it seems to take me to an article titled "U.S. Stocks Decline Amid Concern Greece Will Leave Euro" instead of referencing the CBOs statements.
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M&N -

We're ALL at fault. Roughly 235 years ago, a group of freedom loving individuals pledged their "lives, fortunes and sacred honor" to do what was RIGHT and took up arms against a tyrannical regime. Today's current government is no less tyrannical, but the population is a whole lot more pussified and pacified.

It IS our fault for not changing what is wrong - and I'm including myself in that. I've just got no delusions of my complicity to the cluster****.

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And how many voted for the CONGRESSPERSON who was in office in 2008 when it happened?


Might not have been to the rallies, but I can honestly say that I did *NOT* vote for them.

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Doesn't matter now who we vote for. Last chance for that was 2008. Thelma and Louise style baby!

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Yes, Congress is to blame for deficit spending. But look, we all know that Congress is a pretty boys club, diletants with little if any real work experience, glad-handers all, sucking at banksters tit. In short, children. To get elected they spend money in their districts and logroll for their friends. But look, isn't there supposed to be an adult in the room? Isn't the Fed, not Congress, charged with protecting the currency? Want Congress to stop spending your grandchildren's money? Don't buy their debt. It is the Fed Karl, that has facilitated deficit spending. Yes, I blame silly Americans who believe "Obama gonna pay ma' mortgage" and the U.S. Congress, but much like investors suing ML over Facebook, I would like to join a class-action to freakin end the Fed. We pay them to be the adults in the room - and they buy the kids candy - again, with our grandchildren's money.

But you are very right that this bus is going over the cliff. With continuing high demand for dollars and UST notes, this is not going to end anytime soon - and when international fortunes change, the twenty or so trillion in U.S. debt will become completely unmanageable. Then what?

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Roughly 235 years ago, a group of freedom loving individuals armed gang members pledged their "lives, fortunes and sacred honor" to do what was RIGHT most profitable for them and took up arms against a tyrannical regime. the gang that was currently in charge.


FIFY.

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Mr. Denninger - I may not always agree with you but you sure are a hell of a writer (and thinker). This is one of the most straight-forward, unbiased, simple explanations ever. I wonder if Eric Cantor will read it?

It would be nice if the Tea Partiers would take some of their own medicine.

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This country was set up under this fraud. The truth seekers spent 50 years getting it out of the hands of the organized criminal element that overthrew the Articles of Confederation to tax productive enterprise in the country to pay off a defunct debt bought at pennies on the dollar. Then we had the civil war and the national banking act to reinstate the fraud. When that started falling apart, we had the Federal Reserve, which opened the gate to enough credit to cause the worldwide Great Depression, at which time the bankers and government stole all the gold and made us liable for our own money. We are merely watching the next leg of the fraud run its course, with the desired effect being a few elite holding all the property and a lien on everything we own. The western world has a Greece like result in their future. The government converts unpayable banker liabilities to direct claims to the bankers for our money over and over again.

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It aint me, I vote Republican they cried. It's Obama's Bush's fault etc... etc...

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