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Noodleman
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I guess I view it somewhat like driving a car. A car can be a lethal weapon too. I would be concerned if driver applicants could just send $20 in the mail to DMV to get a DL without taking a written or a driving test to ensure they were competent to share our roadways. I guess we could arrest them after the fact for causing a huge pileup on the freeway - but by that time I might be dead. I just think some instruction and testing makes sense. That's just my personal opinion.

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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935

Abn0rmal
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Noodleman wrote..
I just think some instruction and testing makes sense. That's just my personal opinion.
Should your personal opinion have the force of law or should other people be allowed to disagree with your personal opinion?
Uwe
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Noodleman wrote..
I just think some instruction and testing makes sense. That's just my personal opinion.

So everything that makes sense should be mandatory and required, and if a person doesn't do what makes sense, he should be legally prohibited by from exercising his basic human rights, such as the right to defend himself and his property against violent criminals, and the right to travel upon the public roads by ordinary means?

-Uwe-


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Sloonie
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http://news.yahoo.com/stand-ground-defen....

Quote:
Stand Your Ground" defense fails in Florida shooting case

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Uwe
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If the defendant's story is true, that sentence is outrageous.

http://justiceformarissa.blogspot.com/20....

-Uwe-

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Ckaminski
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Not surprising. Girls are just better.


No kidding. I had to undergo a safety evaluation to get permission to use my club's indoor range. The girl taking it with me was shooting 2" groups at 7y while I was all over the paper (I really am starting to dislike my M&P 45).

My girlfriend this past weekend took a Glock 17 out to the pistol pits and proceed to school some steel targets at 7y. Second trip ever.

So yeah, not surprising at all. :-)
Optimus2861
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If the defendant's story is true, that sentence is outrageous.

Not just the sentence. The very idea that a woman with a protective order against her husband, who had been convicted for two prior counts of domestic battery, would even be arrested for defending herself - and nobody even got hurt! - is insane. The prosecutors should all be strung up by their balls for pursuing the case, and the judge should be impeached and disbarred for making such a mockery of justice.

I wonder if she was made a sacrificial lamb by Angela Corey to discredit "Stand Your Ground" as some kind of prelude to the Zimmerman trial.
Mrbill
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I always read the last paragraph to find out what they're really saying. In this case:
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The decision prompted nationwide protests and Zimmerman, who is white and Hispanic


WTF? "White and Hispanic". I read a lot of news on the internet, and I have never seen this turn of phrase anywhere, on any site, ever. It boggles my mind how people aren't just puddles of goo reading MSM and stories like the one about this woman. 20 years for defending herself against an abusive husband? The husband should be lucky he's not already dead.

Anyway, she should have known better. Should have just killed him and made up a better story afterward. There's no justice for regular people making good decisions.

Coondog
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Receiving written permission from the state doesn't guarantee competence in the end user. I had many first-time shooters in my CPL class that will remain just as dangerous with a firearm after licensing as they were before.

ETA: And, I am personally a terrible driver!

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"The purpose of all political action should be to promote liberty. We should always maintain the conviction that free people will be able to take care of all of their needs. When government gets involved, it can do things with a lot of good intentions, but it cannot do so without undermining our liberties." - Ron Paul

Templar223
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Uwe:

I had to LOL at your post as I'm a firearms instructor and see this regularly.

Girls don't have man-cards which often get in the way of listening to good instruction. A man-card give men all they need to know about shooting guns...

...or some of them think!

Hats off to Karl for a ballsy, no-compromise position.

I believe the "Constitutional Carry" (and campus carry) movements are to today what the right-to-carry movement was back in the 1980s.

And yes, women make better students every time!

John
Onelegged
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NW Colorado
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"The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Yet, every single one of the 50 states does.

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Lowbeyond
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noodleman wrote..
I guess I view it somewhat like driving a car. A car can be a lethal weapon too. I would be concerned if driver applicants could just send $20 in the mail to DMV to get a DL without taking a written or a driving test to ensure they were competent to share our roadways. I guess we could arrest them after the fact for causing a huge pileup on the freeway - but by that time I might be dead. I just think some instruction and testing makes sense. That's just my personal opinion.

Well that is true. But how about

A Knife. License and course to own a knife?
A Bicycle. License and course to ride a bike?
A Snowboard/skis. License and course to snowboard/ski?
A pool ball. License and course to play pool ?

I could do this all day. The list is basically endless.

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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
Ckaminski
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I've seen more people almost die from choking on pork than actual violence.

Should we ban pork? Oh wait, Michigan seems to be doing that already.

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