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Randy123
Posts: 5780
Incept: 2008-09-24
Earth
Online
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C'mon Karl, it's the economy stupid still remains. The economy blows. He will lose in November.
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China is the Enemy. Wake Up.
New Normal. Same As The Old Awful.
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Xqqme
Posts: 626
Incept: 2009-01-09
Ohio
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Stupid, stupid, stupid!
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Gamma
Posts: 5558
Incept: 2008-01-20
Northern CA
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What do we do to sell our ****bag newspaper today?
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This stuff we're going through, this is nothing compared to the Middle Ages. They told me if I voted for John McCain, an idiot would be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Sure enough...
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Analog
Posts: 543
Incept: 2010-12-29
arkansas ozarks
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Quote:And the media's role in this (fake) story shows you once again how willing they are to get on their knees for Barry every chance they get. They'll find another wierdo polygamous ethnic enclave and have a big FBI raid to further their demonization of Mormon religion. Timing will be to put it within memory span of election, September or October-ish. a.
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Searcy17
Posts: 103
Incept: 2011-05-17
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Maybe Romney and his posse could hold Obama down and make him produce documents.
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Cashncarry
Posts: 5091
Incept: 2007-07-24
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The only presidential election where this hit piece from the Washington Post would have been relevant would have been if Romney were running for Cranbrook Class President, 1965. As it stands, the Washington Post was caught embellishing the story and has made some changes to the original text without fanfare. Other accounts of the incident seem to contradict the picture the Post was painting. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/....No doubt this is just the opening salvo in what will be one of the nastiest Presidential races ever. We've got 6 1/2 more months of this nonsense.
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"There are two places only where socialism will work; in heaven where it is not needed, and in hell where they already have it.”– Winston Churchill
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54705
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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I work with an attorney who went to school at Cranbrook with Mittens, and while he didn't consider them 'close friends', he was in the 'circle'. For the record, he's a liberal, and does not support Romney. He had much to say about this story yesterday, not the least of which it was all a smear campaign. Basically, it's theatre.
Romney was well-liked at Cranbrook. Despite having every reason to 'put on airs' after his father was elected Governor, he was always down-to-earth and very approachable. He was generally, kind, helpful and nice to everyone. Practical jokes, stunts, and breaking-the-rules pranks were done by everyone. Cranbrook had (and still has) very rigid rules and it is common knowledge that the kids will try to get away with whatever they can.
In addition, this attorney's kids (3 boys) all went to Cranbrook and the youngest is still there. The current students all rolled their eyes at the article as well.
There's a black guy mentioned in the story and he has been all over local radio saying that the story is dramatacized. He said that he was never bullied or picked on by anyone and he really was the only black person in his form and he believes there was only one other on campus during his time at Cranbrook. He is pretty ticked off at the portrayal of Cranbrook in general.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Docj
Posts: 998
Incept: 2009-09-10
Duck & Cover
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Steph wrote..There's a black guy mentioned in the story and he has been all over local radio saying that the story is dramatacized. Heh - maybe this is a "composite" hazing attack, much like Barry's "composite" girlfriend in his (fictional) memoir.
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The preservation of liberty depends upon the intellectual and moral character of the people. As long as knowledge and virtue are diffused generally among the body of a nation it is impossible they should be enslaved. - John Adams
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Lowbeyond
Posts: 16893
Incept: 2008-02-11
CO aka West NJ/East CA
Online
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/....Two stories with some of the same people. One from a car rag, and one from a Progressive Rag. Wonder which one is more true... hmmm Quote:The Washington Post's controversial exposé on the young Mitt Romney just became more controversial. Presented as an investigative journalism piece, Jason Horowitz’s article contrasts sharply with a similar "flashback" article on Romney recently published in the June 2012 print edition of Automobile Magazine by author David Murray. Both articles chronicle anecdotal events in Romney’s teen years as told by classmates and friends. But while both quote some of the same people, the Washington Post article contains several inexplicable inconsistencies, omissions and false inferences.
The WaPo article focuses on the alleged John Lauber haircutting incident, including quotes from Romney childhood friend Phillip Maxwell: “’It was a hack job,’ recalled Maxwell, a childhood friend of Romney who was in the dorm room when the incident occurred. ‘It was vicious.’”
Apparently not so vicious, however, for Maxwell to relate the incident for the Auto Mag article. Auto Mag does, however, quote Maxwell giving crucial details notably missing from the Post piece: “’I'm a Democrat, so I won't vote for him,’ says Maxwell. 'But he'd probably make a pretty good President. He's very smart, very principled.’”
The Post neglected to mention these relevant facts, just as it neglected to mention Maxwell’s skepticism about Romney’s religion as reported in the Auto Mag piece: “‘He’s determined to claim the highest office in the land--to be the first Mormon to do it. He keeps that undercover because he doesn’t want to frighten people.’”
The Post also creates inferences about Romney that seem to be debunked in the Auto Mag article. Horowitz quotes Matthew Friedemann, the most vocally harsh critic on the Lauber haircutting, in a manner inferring that Romney was a snobbish kid who owned his own car: “When Romney left the campus on weekends, he never invited him. ‘I didn’t quite fit into the social circle. I didn’t have a car when I was 16,’ Friedemann said.”
Well, neither did Romney, according to his friend Gregg Dearth in the Auto Mag article: “’Mitt didn’t get a car at sixteen--ike many Cranbrook kids did.”’ And Romney did invite classmates home on weekends, according to Maxwell--a fact once again nowhere to be found in the Post article.
The Post article briefly mentions Dearth, but not to the degree--or to the effect--in the Auto Mag article, which quotes Dearth extensively:
"With his powerful father, 'He could have been an arrogant, stuck-up, snotty little brat,' says Dearth. ‘But he was a great guy -- an all-American kid with a great sense of humor, very self-effacing.’ And although it's been documented that Romney played a teenage prank or two -- including once impersonating a police officer in order to scare some female friends -- Dearth remembers Mitt as the most straitlaced kid in the neighborhood. ‘Those of us who tested the boundaries in high school still marvel at the self-discipline he displayed,' Dearth continues. ‘With a father who was then governor, Mitt knew where the line was and never crossed it. I think it was a sign of his deep respect for his dad and the way he was brought up. I often tell people he has more integrity than anyone I know. And I was raised a Unitarian.’”
Another Post inconsistency appears through witness Stu White (emphasis added):
“I always enjoyed his pranks,” said Stu White, a popular friend of Romney’s who went on to a career as a public school teacher and said he has been “disturbed” by the Lauber incident since hearing about it several weeks ago, before being contacted by The Washington Post. “But I was not the brunt of any of his pranks.”
After nearly 50 years, Stu White only heard of the Lauber incident a few weeks before the Post contacted him for his impressions of it. Yet “investigative journalist” Jason Horowitz does not ask the basic journalistic question of “who” told Stu White of the incident--and “why” suddenly now, after 50 years. Does WaPo just dismiss this as miraculous coincidence?
Isn’t that perhaps the most crucial element to the Post story--the question of why Obama’s epic same-sex marriage announcement seemed to have been timed so precisely with someone tipping off Stu White after 50 years, and with the Post's publication of its gay-bullying hit piece on Romney? White's anonymous informant and the Post's piece seem hardly coincidental.
To summarize: two current articles based on interviews with some of the same former classmates. But they present two differing and largely inconsistent portraits, with Horowitz's Washington Post either failing to investigate, or deliberately omitting, crucial and relevant information revealed by Murray in Automobile Magazine about Romney's character in high school. It would seem that the Post’s investigative journalism standards leave much to be desired.
Update: Automobile Magazine has just put its Romney article online. http://www.automobilemag.com/features/ne....
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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
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Jack_crabb
Posts: 2406
Incept: 2010-06-25
Peoples' Republik of Maryland
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Quote:Isn’t that perhaps the most crucial element to the Post story--the question of why Obama’s epic same-sex marriage announcement seemed to have been timed so precisely with someone tipping off Stu White after 50 years, and with the Post's publication of its gay-bullying hit piece on Romney? White's anonymous informant and the Post's piece seem hardly coincidental. So now the gays will unloosen their purse-strings for Obummer, that's why.
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Molon Labe
Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Uppity_peasant
Posts: 3110
Incept: 2009-06-26
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The take-away from this should be that the main stream press is working directly with the White House on the 2012 election.
The Clintons and the media did it on the sly. This is right in your bitter clinger cracker face.
"HAHAHAHAHA!!! We work for Obama, you peasant bitchez!! Whatcha gonna do about it?"
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==== If it's true that "assault weapons" are "weapons of war" and don't belong on the streets of America, why do the police need them? Who are the police at war with?
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Musicandnature
Posts: 1953
Incept: 2007-12-05
NJ
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Up, much of the media has turned on Obama as he has lost many independents.
I am voting libertarian even if they don't win this round if enough of us do it maybe the party in office will start enforcing the law. O or Mitt, the lesser of evil is still evil; my conscience says at least try to stop the corporatists.
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Since it costs a lot to win, and even more to lose, You and me bound to spend some time wonder'n what to choose. Goes to show, you don't ever know, watch each card you play and play it slow...Wait until that deal come round, don't you let that deal go down, no no. Garcia/Hunter.
Reason: sp
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Rjazz117
Posts: 17787
Incept: 2007-09-11
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Sorry...the Libertarian candidate isn't really a Libertarian this go-around. I might have to write-in Mephistopheles instead. 
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“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
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Hierophant
Posts: 145
Incept: 2009-07-15
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And the other guy was hanging out with Marxists. So it's still a no-contest as far as I'm concerned.
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Djloche
Posts: 3275
Incept: 2008-07-07
In the Mountains
Online
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yep. None of the Above. I shall not give my consent to any of the bankercock nominees.
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"If we wish to be free, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?"
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Tallystick
Posts: 2230
Incept: 2009-09-20
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Bet there are more interesting stories about Bush hazing at Yale.
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2698
Incept: 2007-08-19
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It's amazing how when you've decided to not vote for Obama or Romney you can stand on the sidelines in amazement watching all the rantings and ravings of the religious zombies, brand controlled fools, "ubber" faux patriots, political mercenaries and fringe idiots with maniacal agendas on both sides that have been brainwashed by the MSM duke it out.
When you make that decision, the political clutter and worthless chatter suddenly disappears and becomes meaningless and you can concentrate on saving your assets and future from the thieves in Washington. The anger of not having full and complete power or being fooled by those who lied to you to get to power is replaced by a focused tranquility which guides as to what you need to do to save yourself and to profit from the sheeple on both sides being fleeced. Don't waste your intellectual energy in this futile fight when the victory of either side will mean the same thing to your future. You will get screwed either way, it's just that the screw job will come from a different direction, one in the name of the greater good the other in the name of patriotism, tradition and "rugged individualism".
Both Obama and Romney are going to screw you, one through bigger government and ignoring bankster thief regulation, the other taking down government and laws and replace them with induced mind control patriotism and crony capitalist endorsed and supported bankster lawlessness.
Vote Libertarian, write in Bugs Bunny as a candidate or don't vote at all. You'll feel better and be more prepared for the upcoming disaster we fondly call our home and political system.
I just convinced a few dozen ex-Republicans of this tonight. Made me (and them) feel good and be better prepared and less likely to be fleeced by either side.
The rich like the Facebook co-founder may have it right after all. If the ship can't be saved, there is no dishonor in abandoning the sleazy, smelly ship full of bigots, thieves and liars. I'm not there yet, but Australia and South America are looking much better to me and a lot of ex-Republicans by the day.
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Trading and investing is understanding about people, emotions and corruption of government, corporations, banks and people using propaganda, lies, mathematics and bankster logic working against you.
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Grumpygirl
Posts: 2853
Incept: 2008-09-18
Oregon
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Quote:It's amazing how when you've decided to not vote for Obama or Romney you can stand on the sidelines in amazement watching all the rantings and ravings of the religious zombies, brand controlled fools, "ubber" faux patriots, political mercenaries and fringe idiots with maniacal agendas on both sides that have been brainwashed by the MSM duke it out. Well said, Nuke.
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Uppity_peasant
Posts: 3110
Incept: 2009-06-26
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Nuke wrote..It's amazing how when you've decided to not vote for Obama or Romney you can stand on the sidelines in amazement watching all the rantings and ravings of the religious zombies, brand controlled fools, "ubber" faux patriots, political mercenaries and fringe idiots with maniacal agendas on both sides that have been brainwashed by the MSM duke it out.
When you make that decision, the political clutter and worthless chatter suddenly disappears and becomes meaningless and you can concentrate on saving your assets and future from the thieves in Washington. The anger of not having full and complete power or being fooled by those who lied to you to get to power is replaced by a focused tranquility which guides as to what you need to do to save yourself and to profit from the sheeple on both sides being fleeced. Don't waste your intellectual energy in this futile fight when the victory of either side will mean the same thing to your future. You will get screwed either way, it's just that the screw job will come from a different direction, one in the name of the greater good the other in the name of patriotism, tradition and "rugged individualism".
Both Obama and Romney are going to screw you, one through bigger government and ignoring bankster thief regulation, the other taking down government and laws and replace them with induced mind control patriotism and crony capitalist endorsed and supported bankster lawlessness. Nuke for the thread win.
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==== If it's true that "assault weapons" are "weapons of war" and don't belong on the streets of America, why do the police need them? Who are the police at war with?
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Chuckbone
Posts: 3
Incept: 2011-03-04
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I never post here, although I've been a member for quite a while. I can say that the story is legitimate, and it's been on the burner for some time. My uncle is one of the former classmates mentioned... he and Romney were roommates and good friends for years at Cranbrook. The WaPo reporter was relentless in pursuing this story and has been for some time. He had already managed to gather the details of the hair cutting incidente before talking to my uncle about it last week. I don't doubt the timing of the release of the news to come after the Obama gay marriage endorsement.
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Tallystick
Posts: 2230
Incept: 2009-09-20
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My Uncle is a Keebler Elf from planet Pop Tart. He makes good commercials and lousy breakfast cookies.
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