This Is How You Get To Eugenics (Obama)
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Posted 2012-05-08 15:36
by Karl Denninger
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This Is How You Get To Eugenics (Obama)
 

No, I'm not kidding.

The Director of the White House Visitor’s Office, Ellie Shafer, today  distributed an email newsletter to members of Congress and others providing detailed instructions on how to register an unborn child (“a baby that has not  yet been born,” as Shafer puts it) into the security system the White House uses  to arrange group tours.

“We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security  information for a baby that has not yet been born,” Shafer wrote. “Crazy as it  may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour.  It’s an easy process.”

So what is it Mr. President?

If it's a "fetus" then it is not a person and therefore does not need to be registered.

If it's a person then as a visitor it must be registered.  But then killing a child is eugenics, is it not?

And what, may I ask rather impolitely, is the difference between killing said child (which you designated a child) 15 minutes before it is born or 15 minutes after?

May I ask what the difference is an hour later?

A week?

A month?

A year?

I don't think I like where this goes......

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Asimov
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**** them.

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Creepy. And scary. But mostly creepy.

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“Crazy as it may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour.”
WTF?!? It not only sounds crazy, it sounds sinister.

What sort of minds do they employ to think up these obscene justifications for tracking every facet of our existence?

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What sort of minds do they employ to think up these obscene justifications for tracking every facet of our existence?


If a personhood bill passes somewhere, this becomes SOP.

Contradictions seemingly abound when people have only one un-admitted goal, to dominate your life.

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“We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security information for a baby that has not yet been born,” Shafer wrote.


"A number" could be one, and he could have called himself and left a message, making the statement qualify.

I call bull****.

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I'd love to see the real reasoning for this.
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apparently from the newsletter that was sent wrote..
GENDER: if the parents know put that gender down if not, you can enter either M or F as we’ll ask you to update it at the time of birth


WTF? Why would anyone let alone the WH security detail give two ****s about what sex the baby was after they were born... ?!

*boggle*

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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
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Two words: Cass Sunstein.

No, make that four words. Add John Holdren.

What a pair to advise the President of the United States of America!
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Alternately, since Obama's popularity has declined, he is desperate to get the visitors number up by any means possible, so that his waning popularity does not stick out like a sore thumb.

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We may reasonably surmise that they finally replaced the previous holder of the position of "Special Assistant to the President Responsible for Thinking Up Stupid ****" because of underperformance.

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come-on.

i would bet that 99.99999999% of the people don't know how many WH visitors there are - nor do they give two ****s.

it is just bizarre.

so bizarre that i think we may be being trolled..

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This is probably complete arrogance to slap the pro choice people in the face; Just like his blatantly forged birth certificate.

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What if you don't even know you're pregnant?

5/7/12 Amanda Prentice, Mom Who Didn't Know She Was Pregnant Gives Birth
Tennessee couple Amanda and Billy Prentice tried to conceive for four years. On April 25th, a doctor told them they'd been successful and were finally going to be parents. Only five hours after finding this out, Amanda gave birth to their baby girl, according to 9News.
Her baby, Allie McKinley Rose, was born healthy and weighed 5 pounds and 5 ounces.
more...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07....

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I'd love to see the real reasoning for this.


Only guess I can come up with is that some "security procedures" may be harmful to developing fetuses.. backscatter scanners, x-ray machines etc...

But..

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WTF? Why would anyone let alone the WH security detail give two ****s about what sex the baby was after they were born... ?!


Yeah... WTF indeed?

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I have to wonder if problems concerning filling out the security forms is directly proportional to the intellectual capacity of visitors? Is this reflective of a decline in standards since Obama has taken office? Or is this just confirming that no child left behind has failed?

Edit: The only thing that makes a lick of sense here is Obama intends to hand out certificates of having visited the White House to all his friends with unborn children before his ass gets the boot come November.

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Breaking news : why do you think they want Obamacare?? Because they are eugenicists. Both parties.

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How would it be classified if a gal and her partner split away from the group, got a quickie in, and a kid was conceived during the visit?

X going in, X + 1 going out?

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I never really understood when you ask how old a baby is, most people will start counting from when the baby was born.

Does that mean the baby wasn't alive for the 9 previous months or what?

I actually kind of like this, it shows that he doesn't really support abortion.

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We celebrate birthdays, not conceptiondays, so 'how old' is just relative to that event. I don't think it has deeper meaning in everyday vernacular.
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Anyone who followed the links could have found the text of the full email, courtesy of the pro-life site lifenews.com:

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We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security information for a baby that has not yet been born.

Crazy as it may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour. It’s an easy process.

LAST NAME: The family’s last name
•FIRST NAME: “Baby” as a first name
•MIDDLE NAME: NMN as in No Middle Name
•DOB: Use the date you are submitting the request to us as their birthday
•GENDER: if the parents know put that gender down if not, you can enter either M or F as we’ll ask you to update it at the time of birth
•SOCIAL: As they will not have a SSN and are under 18, you will not need to enter this field. Again if the spreadsheet asked for a social enter 9 zero’s (not the word nine zeros but 000000000 and yes it happens!)
•CITIZEN/CITY/STATE: The citizen, city and state should be entered the same as the parents


They are collecting this information in case the baby is born (and thus becomes a tour participant) by the time the tour happens. I arrange tours for 50+ high school groups a year, and those that want to get a White House tour have to be applying the full 6 months in advance. While I hope none of the HS girls are pregnant, it's entirely plausible that someone who registers for a tour 6 months in advance will have given birth to their child by the time the tour date rolls around.

This has nothing to do with pre-birth life designations, but believe that if you must.
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LOL. Well, that'll explain it.

I guess this could still be the personhood world, but it's also when you have to sign up 6 months in advance :)
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Limited Offer! *FREE* electronically manufactured keepsake 'Genuine "Hawaiian" Birth Docs.' with every WH visit: *ONLY* while Barry is still Prez. !

( Barry's White House issued Hawaiian Birth Certificates are for entertainment purposes ONLY and may NOT be used to meet Election Ballot Requirements without endorsement by a qualified DNC Chairperson or their duly designated Flunky. )

Get Your baby their Citizenship Docs. before they are even born!
Available ONLY at Barry's White House!
HURRY !!! -GET YOURS' NOW !!!

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Note that the White House considers the citizenship of the unborn baby to be established by the citizenship status of the parents. If only that were were the case in the rest of the country. They must believe that the White House is a separate country with its own, as yet unpublished, set of laws.

What happens if a mother refuses to comply? What if she says, "Who you callin' pregnat? Are you sayin' I'm fat?"

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i've often wondered if stupid is contagious. Now we know. Someone asked such a stupid question "How do I record unborn visitors" that it caused a bunch of other people to lose 50 IQ points apiece.

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