The Pain In Spain Is Mainly.....
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Posted 2012-04-30 07:16
by Karl Denninger
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The Pain In Spain Is Mainly.....
 

.... all over.

Spain's sickly economy faces a "crisis of huge proportions", a minister said on Friday, as unemployment hit its highest level in almost two decades and Standard and Poor's downgraded the government's debt by two notches.

Spain has tried to do what we tried to do, what Greece tried to do, what the rest of the EU tried to do -- continually borrow and spend money to prop up a monster lending bubble.

This strategy failed because it mathematically must fail.  It is impossible for it to succeed over the intermediate and longer term, irrespective of what politicians would like or what they promise the people.

De Guindos also said Spain would increase the value-added tax and other indirect taxes next year, but would seek to reduce payroll taxes. Spain has a low VAT compared with other European countries even after raising it in 2010.

Which will cause GDP to contract further, since that which you tax must come out of either "C" (consumption) or "I" (investment.)

But -- simply cutting spending doesn't avoid this outcome.  That reduces "G", which in turn reduces GDP.

The problem we continually have in this country and in Europe is that we keep doing the same things that led us down the hole, attempting to protect the banksters who made loans that cannot be covered.  Spain remains unwilling to actually force those who made the bad loans to eat their own cooking, even if it chokes them:

Spain’s government and its banks are discussing a new scheme to segregate problematic property loans into one or more asset management companies to relieve the burden on struggling lenders, according to officials and bankers.

That relieves nothing.  It is either a scam (that is, it transfers nothing) or it takes the bad debts of private entities and transfers them to the taxpayer, thereby turning them into permanent impairments in the economy that then must be financed and covered from tax revenues.

The latter is an open, public and outrageous act of fraud and sedition that deserves prosecution, imprisonment and were we to still have the original Coinage Act, capital punishment.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is no resolution to these problems until and unless budgets are reconciled with current taxes.  That's the beginning and end of it; that which we demand government provide in services, whether here or elsewhere, must be paid for with current tax revenues.

I know this is politically unpalatable but it simply doesn't matter -- addition hasn't changed its fundamental character ever in history, and neither has subtraction. 

The sooner we stop lying to ourselves and governments stop lying to the people the better off we will all be.

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The simple fact of the matter is that there is no resolution to these problems until and unless budgets are reconciled with current taxes. That's the beginning and end of it; that which we demand government provide in services, whether here or elsewhere, must be paid for with current tax revenues


I just have the urge to add on at that point. I think most people have heard of Grover Norquist who strong-arms Republican Senators and Representatives into siging a pledge to not raise taxes, well, that is the problem. You see taxes are not the problem, as has been said many times before, IT'S THE SPENDING. His pledge should have been, and should be now, no new spending until the budget is in balance with automatic across-the-board spending cuts to make it stay in balance.

What we have now across the whole 'developed' world is a case of unkeepable promises coming due. No amount of taxes will ever be able to fulfill the promises that were made, the people simply can't pay that much tax.

Before, after, or at the same time as when the budget is brought down to the level of tax revenues one more thing is going to have to happen, the wholesale clawback, renegging, or default on unkeepable promises. What can't be paid won't be paid. Honestly, the best course of action would probably be to bring the budget into balance and default on promises at the same time. This would cause an extrememly sharp depression but when we came out of it we would be on the right course.

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This scheme reminds me of TARP, which actually morphed into a bank bailout. The problem is Spain probably can't raise that type of capital in the debt markets at this point without enslaving it's population. I suspect the deck chair maneuver is to allow time to the upper and politic class to move their assets out of Spain into something safe like USTs (for the time being) via some select ECB bond purchases. Austerity is for little people.

The fact we have people like Grover Norquist cherry picking Republician primary candidates speaks to the growing irrelevancy of the party. The tax cutting religion cited by Norquist, Rush, Hannity and their other mimes are slowly being exposed. In fact, Republicians can't not have big government as G decreases GDP contracts (the economy sucks). Which makes them actually worse than the democrats. Note to the Republician party - Paul Ryan is already the emperor without any clothes so stop jerking him off all day as someone fiscally responsible and as some type of savior.

Eventually someone is going to have to have an honest conversation with the American people. It's a shame Obama and Romney both don't have the courage or leadership skills to address the issue.



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Spain’s government and its banks are discussing a new scheme



Ha Ha. They actually "slipped-up" and called it a "scheme."


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Widgeon -
New Oxford American Dictionary wrote..
scheme |skēm|
noun
• a large-scale systematic plan or arrangement for attaining some particular object or putting a particular idea into effect: a clever marketing scheme.
• a secret or underhanded plan; a plot: police uncovered a scheme to steal paintings worth more than $250,000.
• a particular ordered system or arrangement: a classical rhyme scheme.
Only non-believers in the bankster/politician priesthood hold such negative views and automatically assume the second of the three definitions were intended. This negativity is the real cause of all of the economic problems.
/sarc

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I know there is the other meaning (number 1 above). It's just that, in the 'business world', "scheme" has a clear pejorative meaning. "Program" & "Plan" are the "approved" PC Terms of art. No one uses "scheme" in that world unless they are attempting to denigrate someone else's positions/actions.


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1921, baby, bring it on! Of course, we're too far down the rabbit hole at this point; we'll probably end up like Weimar Germany rather than our former selves. Hyperinflation, the Third Reich, Hitler, etc.; this is more like where we're headed, if not worse. There's still time, but damn, after the last few years; we're really catapulting ourselves to an awful outcome. So bad, that there isn't much in history to compare it to...

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