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Cpugh111
Posts: 3
Incept: 2009-05-05
Pinckney, MI
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Who then buys all the debt the federal government is issuing?
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Genesis
Posts: 130744
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Well now that could get interesting couldn't it?
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Sean
Posts: 1766
Incept: 2009-04-21
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Quote:Well now that could get interesting couldn't it?   And I'm in a great position to wait and hide too!
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Crzymorse
Posts: 1191
Incept: 2010-06-25
Maryland
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If inflation gets out of the bag then all bets are off. China would be buying out the ass if the federal reserve didn't. They are immediately ****ed if we start to inflate and demand higher yields.
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Duc888
Posts: 7368
Incept: 2008-11-06
CT, the UNconstitution State
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Is it time for the 40% haircut on the top of fedgov's head yet?
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Genesis
Posts: 130744
Incept: 2007-06-26
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I say we shave 'em.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Asimov
Posts: 104008
Incept: 2007-08-26
East Tennessee Eastern Time
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Cpugh111: Well, the fed is buying an average of 60% of the new treasury issuance, and 95%+ of the 20 and 30 year.
So....
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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Jkilkelly
Posts: 1629
Incept: 2007-07-20
Mercer Island WA
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The alternative is they offer new issuance at a higher rate to attract buyers - ever thought of that?
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“They say there are no atheists in a foxhole. Well, there are no libertarians in a financial crisis, either.'' Jeffrey Frankel, Harvard economist
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Jkilkelly
Posts: 1629
Incept: 2007-07-20
Mercer Island WA
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higher interest costs could also be a back door way of forcing fiscal reconciliation
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“They say there are no atheists in a foxhole. Well, there are no libertarians in a financial crisis, either.'' Jeffrey Frankel, Harvard economist
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Jkilkelly
Posts: 1629
Incept: 2007-07-20
Mercer Island WA
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or the "floating rate notes" that are being discussed could also be another way to attract new interest in T's
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“They say there are no atheists in a foxhole. Well, there are no libertarians in a financial crisis, either.'' Jeffrey Frankel, Harvard economist
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Cpugh111
Posts: 3
Incept: 2009-05-05
Pinckney, MI
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So...at what rate do you become interested in Treasuries 5%? 10% perhaps? how about 15%? No? What rate then?
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Harrisonact
Posts: 1754
Incept: 2010-10-04
canada
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no - ZIRP stays and America and the world crashes and burns as a unit. Hiking rates would kill America yet leave other countries standing.
Everyone goes over the cliff is the only model B52 understands.
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My playbook speaks español. Deal with it. Im too lazy to fix it.
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Jkilkelly
Posts: 1629
Incept: 2007-07-20
Mercer Island WA
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in a ZIRP world? we arent talking about 5%. In a world where we are the tallest midget? I think it would be easier to attract capital to US than to EU or Japan.
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“They say there are no atheists in a foxhole. Well, there are no libertarians in a financial crisis, either.'' Jeffrey Frankel, Harvard economist
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Obsidian
Posts: 2447
Incept: 2008-10-10
Eagle Mountain, Utah
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Quote:The alternative is they offer new issuance at a higher rate to attract buyers - ever thought of that? And just how are they going to afford that when debt is now funding more than half of all .gov expenditures? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-posts-b....
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Killben
Posts: 205
Incept: 2009-12-07
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"an attempt to shoot again will cause it to blow up in Bernanke's face."
Then I for one really hope he attempts to shoot and it blows up on his face. Good riddance! Honestly .. I cannot even say .. let him rest in peace.. I hope he rots in hell. But I cannot wait for the blow up..
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Jkilkelly
Posts: 1629
Incept: 2007-07-20
Mercer Island WA
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BB has stated over and over again in testimony that our fiscal problems need to be resolved and pose the greatest threat to our economy longer term. We cant continue this deficit spending and debt loading.
Perhaps, setting aside the assumption that everything he does is motivated by evil, the way the Fed forces Congress to act is to cause rates to rise and to back off from its purchases of T's
Possible?
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“They say there are no atheists in a foxhole. Well, there are no libertarians in a financial crisis, either.'' Jeffrey Frankel, Harvard economist
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Genesis
Posts: 130744
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Possible. Against everything expected by virtually everyone in the market too.
But if gas prices keep going up it won't matter what he does; he loses control there and it's game over on the economy anyway.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Avianphlu
Posts: 3951
Incept: 2008-12-03
Ulster NY
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i think its CTRL P to infinity which sounds insane...but look at what we have running the ship...yup...CTRL P
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Genesis
Posts: 130744
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Yeah, right. Gas prices folks, gas prices.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Jkilkelly
Posts: 1629
Incept: 2007-07-20
Mercer Island WA
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Gen absolutely right on - if prices continue to rise Obama loses his re-election.
He can't blame this on the "unfairness" of our tax code
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“They say there are no atheists in a foxhole. Well, there are no libertarians in a financial crisis, either.'' Jeffrey Frankel, Harvard economist
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Andyc
Posts: 333
Incept: 2010-10-24
Banned
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I believe they will still QE.
Its the only play in their playbook.
Possibly there could be some coordinated effort to cool the markets off then QE?
Dangerous time to be long though
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Andyc
Posts: 333
Incept: 2010-10-24
Banned
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I believe they will still QE. Its the only play in their playbook. Possibly there could be some coordinated effort to cool the markets off then QE? Dangerous time to be long though Have someone give JPM a collateral call and let the controlled temporary demolition begin! I believe the central banks and investment banks are now coordinating together to control the markets and whatever manipulation it takes they will try. : ) Time for the opposite of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Gro....They can call it The Presidents Malfunctioning Group on Financial Markets which we will affectionately call The Plunge Enablement Team thereafter. heh |
Ghopper
Posts: 2317
Incept: 2011-06-11
Staten Island, NY
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I think there will be more QE.
They know it will do nothing but harm in the end, but they will need the quick fix to get to the election (or try to).
It is a political decision to boost the Markets and create some more phony demand.
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Wineaux
Posts: 533
Incept: 2009-03-23
pure Liquid pleasure
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Wouldn’t the detonation of the Euro (strengthening of the dollar) give Chair Satan the flexibility to further devalue the dollar?
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What wine goes with unemployment?
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