Here It Comes.... (Bundesbank)
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Posted 2012-04-01 11:35
by Karl Denninger
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Here It Comes.... (Bundesbank)
 

This is going to get interesting rather quickly...

Germany’s Bundesbank is the first of the 17 euro-area central banks to refuse to accept as collateral bank bonds guaranteed by member states receiving aid from the European Union and the International Monetary Fund,Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung reported.

The Bundesbank won’t lend to banks against bank debt guaranteed by Greece, Ireland and Portugal from May, the newspaper said, citing unidentified officials. The Frankfurt-based central bank currently has less than 500 million euros ($667 million) of those bonds on its balance sheet, FAZ reported.

That ought to the end of the "fungibility" argument for Euro-area debt.

Or how about a new "household tax" being assessed in Ireland?  Wait.... a tax for being alive?  That sounds like Obama!  Unfortunately the Irish appear to have lost their balls -- and their rifles from the IRA years.  They need to find at least one of the two, and soon -- and hopefully the non-violent forms of recourse will be employed.  After being sold out repeatedly by the jackals of finance, one wonders if Irish whiskey has addled their brains to the point of inability to properly respond to being financially raped.

Oh, I forgot to tell you that the flat tax is being replaced next year by a progressive (funny, that word) tax that will assess some people with as much as 10 times the current liability (oops!)

Ireland is no stranger to corruption.  Remember Unicredit?  Maybe you can all explain to me why the Irish people should pay for the profligacy and intentional bad lending decisions made by Irish banks?  After all, they didn't get a seat at the table in the lender's committee when making the decision to loan (or not), so why should they bear the cost?

That's the key question, you see.  The ability to shift responsibility after the fact for bad decisions while pocketing the money for good ones (and even for bad ones!) is commonly known as slavery or despotism.  It is the sort of thing that has, in the past, led to revolution, especially when enabled and combined with official corruption.

More importantly, however, you can't obtain actual prosperity until these games and schemes stop and the bad loans are forced into the open and defaulted.  Covering them up with even more schemes and scams doesn't solve anything -- it just makes for a bigger, more-convoluted mess.

If you think we've found an answer to any of the problems we began to stare down in 2007 and 2008 you need your thorazine dose adjusted -- upward.

And no, this isn't an April Fools' joke.

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Perhaps when the Irish do throw the bankers out they will have a new holiday to celebrate.
St. Patrick's day needs a companion holiday.

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Maybe the Irish should elect a gov that pledges to not make them banker slaves. Wait, they already did that. Two boxes gone.


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About a year ago Merkel was talkin' tough and she folded like a cheap suit when she realized what was happening. It wont be long before the Bundesbank starts having its arm twisted so we'll see if they will resist when the pressure is put on.

My guess is that threatened with 'total world financial collapse' the Bundesbank joins the kick the can squad.

Funny though that they are showing resistance now and not earlier.
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Karl, I saw somewhere that the velocity of money is at a decades low level. This Bundesbank announcement can't help that. Do you see us on the horizon of a deflationary black hole despite the CBs efforts? (I mean very near horizon)

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Karl, I really think it the "Here It Comes" moniker needs to be shelved for awhile or at least reserved for high percentage hits. This will most likely turn into a smiley like everything else we have seen.
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Eaglewwit, yep we have had waay too many "Here it comes'".

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Murf: Yes.

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According to Irish news (Government funded) less than 50% have paid the household tax with penalties starting today.

776,000 have paid. Over 800,000 have not paid.

I call that a step in the right direction.
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"Here It Comes" is very appropriate. The fact that the brick only hurts when it hits you does not make it less threatening when dropped. In this case, if Germany stops accepting these bonds as collateral, then the next step is to stop writing CDS on them. The fact that these bonds can be used as collateral at a central bank and protected with CDS has been propping up these markets.
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Thanks, Karl.

Did the ECB think they could slice and dice and repackage the worst junk out there and sell it back to Germany? (I'll bet Timmah told them they could). Sucks to be the buyer-of-last-resort for all that junk when you haven't answered: "Then what?"

Eaglewitt: This could happen so fast that there is nobody with any power ahead of it. We could see, next week, ECB member banks try to unload their remaining **** on the ECB or on any taker and soon see a "no-bid" and money lock down hard. It's a confidence game and Germany just said they have "no confidence."

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Murf if that happens expect the FED to buy up the ****, they just won't tell us they are buying it.
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Eagle, yes that's true, but they already got caught once on that and it was BEFORE Germany said, "nein."

There may be a problem when someone points out that Bennie's buying the hay that even Germany can't stomach.

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Who will point it out? They will just keep it secret.
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How much sand has to be in the gears before the German version of J6P goes to a teller machine and it don't work? Any idea?
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Bunds move around 13 ticks to the downside following the Bundesbank saying it continues to accept all Eurozone sovereign bonds

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"one wonders if Irish whiskey has addled their brains to the point of inability to properly respond to being financially raped."


Well if this is the case EVERYONE worldwide must have gotten a shipment of Jameson's recently except perhaps the Icelanders.


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Wow this is rich

http://www.euronews.com/newswires/146514....


Everybody has to pay except for the bonus recipients/skimmers down at the banks.

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See I learned the lesson of the boy who cried wolf. You may be looking for the "moment" when you can cash in and get yours, but as Karl has been pointing out, in a game to the bottom, be careful what you wish for.

I too walked about from the market (completely) when the Dow was at 11k or so. Am I kicking myself in the ass right now? Sure. But I'm not a sophisticated investor, and my track record has more misses than wins. I gamble where I know the stakes, and here, I don't know the stakes. I don't have the time to be a day trader, and I'm not going to be that guy who goes on vacation only to come back to see the market lost 30% in a day due to an HFT trading mistake.

I don't even see the "here it comes" anymore - what I see is one more layer placed on the house of cards.
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No worries folks, the S&P is up 0.5% AGAIN. Expect the same tomorrow.
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to reiterate from earlier

Bunds move around 13 ticks to the downside following the Bundesbank saying it continues to accept all Eurozone sovereign bonds

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