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Flaps10
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What we should be talking about is national media inciting race wars.



Agreed...and it appears that it won't be a difficult thing to do.


And what makes all the whiteys in MSM think they're immune once the riots start?

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Fanning the flames ... LOVE the bubbling brook, meadow, and purple flowers in the background. MSM is working overtime on this.


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White guy in a black neighborhood.

NSFW

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=679_13326....


Someone pointed out - for decades now, whites have reacted to this type of thing by MOVING to the suburbs where they can hide from this. Now that impending poverty is making this a lot harder to do, I think it is entirely possible that Civ War II (on racial lines) is a real possibility.

Just cut off the FSA and see how long it takes. I'd say about a week.



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I will add - there is another possibility that few are willing to discuss - maybe both Zimmerman and Trayvon were BOTH ****ing idiots and *******s.

You mix one ******* with another one and you get trouble, and the ONLY reason this has gotten so much traction is that all the people incapable of doing anything other than supporting THEIR non-thinking left/right paradigm have glommed onto this as a litmus test for supporting their pet theories.

In the end, regardless of the legal outcome - the only people who will really ever know what went down that night are the two protagonists.

All the rest is just righteous masturbation.

Unfortunately for this country, it will go down in history as a spark.

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That does appear to be the case Kochevnik. Zimmerman was clearly a wannabe cop. That makes him power hunger and eager to abuse power or assert his right to self defense. He was looking for trouble and found it. I don't think racism had anything to do with it. Instead it was a deadly confluence of events and personalities.
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Now i really dont think many of the old guard will be in the "Race Battle" (which isnt one, its pretty much young versus old). Yes, both sides are stoking flames and what not - but they will ask for peace and reconliation once the heat gets too hard.

We were very lucky in 1992. With the Internet and rise of the "right" the picture isnt pretty. I have a feeling some of it is a good old distraction...and some of it is culling of the herd. They rather have the old than the young they cannot control and quite honestly dont want to.

There have been some incidnts with one or two white artists (Dimebag Darrell comes to mind from the Thrash Group Panthra) but even though the majority have satanic images... most of the old acts are alive - they died off from drugs and whatnot. The reason why rappers got so popluar was one, a perverted idea of Masculine wants and desires. They promote the man and the idea of his riches, the nice cars, the pretty girls. The rest of the music industry doesnt even register. Its also to create a socitiy that tries to have the things the mainstream will not give them regardless what they do. It also the only "succesful" way out of ones situation ouside of sports (and yes, we have Bounty Gate but i dont want to get into the conversial issues there) - all they have to do today is spend two weeks in a music studio (or converted music studio) and they can make as much as 10X back - get a group around you and you can create buzz.

Yes, they could have learned this at school on how to work with a group and run a business. But with this world is based on image, how can you reach such youth that realizes in some small way there not quite right?

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Kochevnik for the WIN!

On another note, I think a lot of the white/black thing is based on class, not race. I know as many, if not more, blacks who have moved to escape the, for lack of a better word, "lower classes" of all races as I do whites.

In my experience, nearly everyone, no matter their race, in the middle and upper classes aspires to the same thing - improving their lot in life, raising and educating their children, retiring comfortably, etc. The "lower classes" may have the same aspirations but depend on others or the government to help them or are willing to just take what they can get from the government and not improve at all or work their butts off to escape to the middle and upper classes.

Read about Dr. Ben Carson some time; his mother was a maid and saw all the books at her employer's house and decided it was time for her sons to visit museums, art galleries, libraries, etc., instead of watching tv and goofing off. Did this make him into the world-famous brain surgeon he is today? Perhaps and he'll tell you that it definitely helped.

Read Michael Oher's book, I Beat The Odds. That man went through stuff as a child that no kid should have to go through - a drug-addicted mother who had 12 kids, foster homes, different schools that just kept passing him to the next grade when he was not ready, life on the streets after he ran away from the foster homes, etc. It's different from anything that most of us have experienced in our lives. There's a chapter at the end that should be required reading for every kid age 10 and up about how they should live their lives if they want to succeed. Between this book and some of the stories in The Blind Side (the book, not the movie), you realize what some of the "lower class" kids are going through and how hard it can be to escape that.

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RACE RIOTS> NATIONAL EMERGENCY> MARTIAL LAW> Problem solved for O's relection? just sayin...

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^^ I brought this up to a friend, and with her dead silence, I could tell that she thought I was off my rocker.

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Novid wrote..
Karl, i see it this way.

How can such ilk NOT exist?
1. End the food stamp program.

2. Repeal minimum wage.

You don't work, you don't eat. Period.

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“In the NBC segment, Zimmerman says: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”
The full version, though, unfolds like this:
Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”
911 operator: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”
Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

Watch the video at the link. Make up your own mind. Was this creative editing of an out and out bold face lie?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tr....

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Posted elsewhere but it fits here too:

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Mari, my husband has seen what these kids go through in his 11 years as a public school teacher at some very rough schools (90%+ minority and 100% free/reduced lunch).

One 3rd grader cried b/c he "wants a Daddy" and asked my husband "When am I going to get a Daddy?" How do you answer that? The school set that kid up with a black male mentor, and tragically, the guy NEVER showed up, not even once.

I've seen white kids with methed-out moms, dad in jail, and mom's boyfriend drives the kids to school and then refuses to leave school grounds. A domestic standoff ensues, and the police find the car is filled with drugs, needles, and all kinds of stuff in the backseat, where my 6 year old student and his infant brother just rode to school. Well, along the lines of "you can't fix stupid" that mom took the kid out of school for a full week to go to Mardi Gras! He failed first grade. She said "Well, it's no big deal because I failed first grade myself."

The situation is like quick sand - escaping is not easy and those kids will have to work harder and overcome so much.

We had 48 new students enroll at our local high school in January and HALF of them are classified as homeless.

I'm not making excuses for kids turning into violent thugs, but with (a) NO role models and (b) the "wrong crowd" playing the role that your mother and father should be doing, the odds are not in favor of good grades and trade school/ college. More like dropping out, drugs, pregnancy, and crime/minimum wage.<-- that pretty much sums up my entire county!

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Its good to know not all conservatives are as off their rockers as some of you guys are.

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Joe Scarborough condemned some conservatives and right-leaning websites for trying to turn Trayvon Martin's death into a political cause on Friday's "Morning Joe."

Martin was unarmed when he was shot dead by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in late February. His death and the local police department's failure to arrest Zimmerman have taken the country by storm. Scarborough has spoken out demanding the shooter's arrest.

On Friday, he excoriated some conservative websites for defending Zimmerman and questioning Martin's innocence. He said that he found their behavior "disgusting."

"Why is it that some on the right are actually taking this up as a cause?" Scarborough asked. "As National Review said almost immediately after it happened, this has nothing to do with gun rights, this has nothing to do with the Second Amendment, this has nothing to do with stand your ground laws, this has nothing to do with the NRA. This has everything to do with a guy that's trying to play security cop, who is unhinged, who chased down and shot a 17-year-old kid armed with Skittles and iced tea.'"

Scarborough warned that conservative sites should follow the National Review and "not take this up as a cause." He took issue with their portrayal of Martin in particular.

He said, "some racist websites, but also sadly some fairly mainstream websites are actually going into Trayvon Martin’s social media pages, be it Twitter or MySpace, and they're trying to find ominous looking pictures while skipping over pictures of him holding up a birthday cake smiling, him fishing with his dad, him standing outside proudly of his home dressed in a tux ready to go to prom."

"This is beneath contempt," Scarborough railed. "These people on the far right are being fools to try to make this a political issue.”

"Some out there are marginalizing themselves, making fools of themselves," he continued. He speculated that they took issue with President Obama's remarks about Martin's death. "I guess in their warped, twisted, distorted, political worldview, that makes this dead 17-year-old boy — who was kept in the morgue for three days before they even notified his parents of his whereabouts — I guess that makes it okay?" he said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30....

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Tchoup,

I'm afraid your statement is as totally ignorant and phoney as most of your other posts on this matter.
Tchoup wrote..
Its good to know not all conservatives are as off their rockers as some of you guys are.

Scarborough is not a conservative though he may claim to be. Even the most ridiculously stupid know that. I'll just take for granted, based upon your last post, and all previous, that you're not ridiculously stupid and that you're just shockingly ignorant where truth and reality are concerned.
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Nope--he's not conservative at all and hasn't been since he's been on MSNBC (by the way, I'm a libertarian, not a conservative--I hate Republicans as much as Democrats).

And if you really think any conservative has gained any political clout of over this "instance" you are off your rocker. The only ones loving this are the race baiters and the MSM

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I just have to ask another stupid question. Example; When I was 17 I had some latitude. But if I didn't come home or didn't check in for a reasonable time and was expected home, all the hospitals got called, then the police. I was responsible, so the whole checklist only happened twice.

SO, Martin was not at his usual home. He was missing for three days after the incident. Something is wrong with this. Who would let their kid be missing for three days. Apparently he was close to where he was staying, in a gated community.

How could anyone have an incident like this, in their gated community-or near enough to walk, AND have a missing son for three days?

More still, how could he be missing for three days if the girlfriend was on the phone when an altercation started. Even a friend that is not so close would follow up after the termination of that type of call.

If this goes to trial, OJ will have competition as the most popular court case.
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Yeah, that would be my question, but that's "inappropriate" to ask, you see. Dad and girlfriend are home in bed and Junior's gone..... says he's going out

I only get*****ed when my kid is 10 minutes late. He's missing for three days? And oh, that cell phone of his -- had no number in it for "Dad" or "Mom" did it? You wouldn't think the cops checked that, right?

Hmmmm...

By the way, where did he walk for the skittles and iced tea? You might want to grab Google Maps and have a look at the address in the police report......I sure don't see a convenience store or anything like that in convenient walking distance....

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I'll distort the facts just like the media. Martin had some free time on his hands, so he went to a neighborhood he knew. HIs parents didn't know he was there. He was casing the houses and cars. Zimmerman noticed him, confronted him. Martin felt caught and attacked Zimmerman,

So this is completely made up, but, it still fits the facts. The way I see it, when the stories start contradicting common sense, you can't be sure any of the differing stories are true.

Just shaking my head.
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Somebody's got an agenda...

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We'll probably see Zimmermans head photo-shopped on Rambo for the next cover of "Soldier of Fortune." Stay tuned.
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Glad you guys brought up the people magazine.


I feel like a Jew and Kristallnacht is coming.


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We need a magazine expose' with photos of a 12 year old Charlie Manson to emphasize his innocence.

Or...how bout a pic of a 13 year old Ted Bundy?

I have no idea what really happened that night in Sanford, and apparently the investigators don't
either. That little fact will not stop them from indicting Zimmerman just for politics sake.

I will be flabbergasted if he's not indicted...

Even if he skirts criminal indictment, he will be fighting civil lawsuits by black groups from here to eternity...

Zimmerman's life is pretty much over unless he leaves the USA...




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The standard conservative conclusion: "it's not racial, it's cultural" is the biggest P.C. cop out ever.

I don't believe it's not cultural, it's GENETIC. It's the same reason blacks dominate sports.

20% higher testosterone levels than whites. They are basically on a permanent low-level roid rage. Trust me 15-20% difference is huge. There have also been studies on female prisoners and the ones with the highest testosterone where convicted of violent crimes, and also did the most violent attacks inside prison.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/34557....

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Blacks in the United States have the highest prostate cancer rate in the world and nearly twice that of whites in the United States. The 2:1 black-to-white ratio in prostate cancer rates is already apparent at age 45 years, the age at which the earliest prostate cancer cases occur. This finding suggests that the factor(s) responsible for the difference in rates occurs, or first occurs, early in life. Testosterone has been hypothesized to play a role in the etiology of prostate cancer, because testosterone and its metabolite, dihydrotestosterone, are the principal trophic hormones that regulate growth and function of epithelial prostate tissue. This report gives the results of assays of circulating steroid hormone levels in white and black college students in Los Angeles, CA. Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. Both these differences were statistically significant. Adjustment by analysis of covariance for time of sampling, age, weight, alcohol use, cigarette smoking, and use of prescription drugs somewhat reduced the differences. After these adjustments were made, blacks had a 15% higher testosterone level and a 13% higher free testosterone level. A 15% difference in circulating testosterone levels could readily explain a twofold difference in prostate cancer risk.

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Yup, the fact is the evidence that is out there now says that there is no reason to charge him. They put him in custody but then had to let him go.


This is a clear propaganda operation. It is being orchestrated and controlled, a power grab is coming. Laws don't matter, truth does not matter there is only power.

The emotional lies that are being disseminated and repeated are just a tool. There is another goal that they are working toward.

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