What We're NOT Talking About (But Should Be)
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Posted 2012-03-29 21:45
by Karl Denninger
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What We're NOT Talking About (But Should Be)
 

Where's the outrage here folks?

Tyson, who has the word 'Savage' tattooed across his chest didn't show a flicker of emotion, slumping in his seat as he was forced to watch a montage of photos showing the victims from early childhood to young men.

Two close friends of the dead men who had attended the eight day trial in Sarasota, Florida. had also delivered highly emotional impact statements to the court prior to the sentencing.

What's this about?

Two British tourists who had a few drinks and got lost in "the hood."  They ran into a black teen that decided to try to rob them -- and when he was told they didn't have any money, he murdered them in cold blood.

There's no controversy in this case over whether or not self-defense played a role; the murderer was attempting to commit robbery at the time. 

Barack Obama said that his son would "look like Trayvon Martin" (if he had a son) -- how about Shawn Tyson?  Does that look like your putative son Barack?

And why is it that these two gentlemen who were gunned down in cold blood as part of an attempt to rob them, weren't even worth a mention -- or a phone call of condolance to their families?

We have a problem here in this country.  We have black youth who think that handles like "NO_LIMIT_NIGGA" are cute names to apply to themselves on Twitter.  We have youth that talk (and write) in language that is unintelligible, who wear "grills" made out of gold as some sort of indication of their gangsta "coolness" and walk around with their pants halfway down to their knees in "tribute" to the fact that if you go to jail the jailer will take your belt so you can't either use it as a weapon or hang yourself with it. 

This is considered "cool" and "acceptable" in our so-called "public school" systems and on the streets, never mind that the only job you'll be getting with that sort of self-applied label is one selling crack on the street corner as nobody is going to hire these "kids."

If parents don't give a **** about this can someone tell me why the taxpayer should be paying to "educate" someone who clearly doesn't give a good damn what they look or act like in public?

This **** isn't new either folks.  I saw it literally every day a decade back and more when I lived in Chicago.  This isn't a recent phenomena and it sure hasn't gotten anyone anywhere positive in life.

Then we have the "wilding" documented by North Miami Beach senior high students who decided that mob action against a retailer was appropriate as a means of "protest" in the Martin/Zimmerman case.  They stole over $1,000 worth of merchandise and ransacked the place -- all caught on video.

This is the group that will be "next" in our economic future?  These are the people who we will pay for medical care via Medicaid and Obamacare (assuming it is not struck in June, and I believe it will be) and who will form the tax base as we age?  This is what America is becoming?  This is how we're going to compete with the Chinese, the Vietnamese, hell, even the Mexicans?

Yeah, right.  If we keep this crap up there won't be an America in another 20 years.

How many blacks were killed in Chicago last week?  Of those, how many who did the killing were also black?

There is a man currently in the dock for defending himself in Englewood -- he's black.  The assailant he was defending himself from is also black.  This doesn't make the news, except when the defender, an 80 year old man, finds himself locked up for exercising his right not to die at the hands of a young thug.

America has a problem and it's found here -- in statistics that nobody will talk about in public for fear of being branded a "racist" but nonetheless true.  Black people commit half the murders but are 13.6% of the population.  They also commit more of the robberies than any other group.

This gross misrepresentation doesn't extend everywhere.  For example black representation in DUIs is about equal to their percentage of the population.

So what makes this violent expression something that continues?

I'll tell you why -- we, the rest of the population that aren't into violent acts like this and find them unacceptable do not speak loudly against it and demand it stop long before it reaches the level of robbery or murder.  You talk to any detective, any cop who's worth a damn and he'll tell you that those who commit robbery are people you need to arrest and get off the street because eventually they almost always wind up killing someone.

We tolerate "grills" in school, tagging, possession of stolen property and similar acts that are not pranks.  I'm not talking about someone getting caught smoking weed either -- I'm talking about clear indications of intent if not actual gang activity and acts of serious civil disorder -- theft and violence.  Troll Youtube sometime if you want literally dozens of examples of "in the hood" behavior put forward as "cool", or listen to the "gangsta rap" trash that's all over the airwaves.

The current race-pimping is outrageous folks.  What's even worse is people like Rosanne Barr who ought to be sued to beyond the orbit of Mars for tweeting Zimmerman's parents address.  Yeah, she deleted it, but not before effectively advocating vigilante violence against people who had nothing to do with the situation in the first place.  Just in case nobody's said it yet, "**** you Rosanne."

If you think there aren't as many seriously racist black people as there are whites (if not more) you live in a sheltered enclave and have never been to a majority-black area in a big city or elsewhere.

The Zimmerman issue is, as a legal matter, very simple.  Either Zimmerman was mounted and having his face pounded in by Martin or he was not.  If he was, then the shooting is clean.  If Zimmerman shot Martin without being legitimately in fear of great bodily harm or death then he has committed a crime.  This has nothing to do with the "Stand your ground" law either; you can't retreat if you're pinned on the ground while getting your face turned into hamburger by the guy on top of you.

Thus far the evidence visible to the public does not support that Zimmerman committed a crime.  The DA declined to prosecute on the basis of the evidence available.  As I have repeatedly said if the evidence changes so will my opinion but "evidence" is not clearly-doctored crap such as the ABC news "footage" that conveniently and intentionally covers Zimmerman's head with their titler even though there is no text displayed as a subtitle.

Let's be very forthright here about what those who are convinced there's this big cover-up are alleging here -- those who are alleging a conspiracy are in fact alleging that the EMT folks who were on the scene as well the police department fabricated what happened and supported it with intentionally-false reports up and down the line. 

In other words those making that allegation are in fact alleging a very serious felony conspiracy in that if they're right these people are all accessories after the fact to murder and both could and should stand trial for same

REALLY?  

You are alleging that the EMTs are going to risk imprisonment for a felony charge of being an accessory to murder?  Not just the cops, but the EMTs too?  For what possible benefit would they engage in that?

Folks, President Clinton couldn't keep one cum-stained blue dress quiet in a place where he had very effective control of everyone in the White House.  And that was simply a matter of impeachment, not a potential life-term felony.

I don't buy it but you're free to, I suppose.  If we get some EMTs coming forward (in exchange for immunity I would expect!) then you'll have an argument.

In short, let's see your evidence.

But until that is presented the clear attempt to race-bait and set up what could easily turn into a race war or worse, all-on civil insurrection belies the real issue that we have tried to sweep under the rug for the last two decades by showering "free money" on top of those who choose to do things like wear a grill or talk in what amounts to sanskrit and claim that anyone that doesn't "respect" them is "dissin' the hood" or somesuch. 

That is, we have both tolerated as a society and fed with "free money" this sort of behavior and lifestyle.

Well guess what folks -- the "free cheese" is about gone.  We can't keep running $1 trillion+ deficits and handing out money to people who would rather get high and have their grill than go to work and make a life for themselves in a peaceful and productive fashion. 

There is no such thing as a unicorn and those are not skittles coming from the back end.

We as a people had better face this crap head on and stop it right here and now.  It's not going to be easy to do but we literally don't have a choice because the "free stuff" is running out fast.

I don't have the answers as to how to change people's minds and hearts in this regard.  As I noted this isn't a new problem, but it's getting worse.  Politicians such as Pelosi and Obama who think there's some sort of "gain" in stoking racial tensions are literally out of their minds.  The last thing this country needs is race riots or worse, but the simple fact of the matter is that bribery isn't something we can pay for any longer so that's not one of the choices.

We better get our heads out of our asses folks, because for those of us who are law-abiding, decent people this is not a game.

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<golf clap> Thank you.

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That's RACIST!




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Who cares! Our post racial president and his lacky holder has set the bar. You shall be exterminated if your political views and/or race do not align with the progressive enlightened modern society.


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Not sure how to embed abc videos.. but here's a video of the surveillance cameras and Zimmerman is brought in.... not much blood/bruising to be seen.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zi....

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You wouldn't see bruising for 12-24 hours and he was treated at the scene by EMTs, so I would expect they'd clean the blood off too.

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A frightening read from Doug Casey:

The Ascendence of Sociopaths in US Governance
http://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/as....

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You made a mistake. It wasn't Miami Senior High. I live put a few blocks from there. It was North Miami Beach Senior High. Miami High is probably 90% or more a Hispanic school while NMB Senior is basically all black.

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How many blacks are killed by blacks and how many blacks are killed by whites. I bet the ratio is 1000:1.

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Fixed that; wasn't referring to the individual school but a location, but since there's one by that specific name I edited it.

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Nice ticker, it reminds me why I liked Ron Smith so much. He just cut through the BS.
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Teen gets hammered from what looks like accidental trip....



At least there is some common sense left
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"Either Zimmerman was mounted and having his face pounded in by Martin or he was not. If he was, then the shooting is clean. If Zimmerman shot Martin without being legitimately in fear of great bodily harm or death then he has committed a crime."

Exactly. That's the whole issue. Martin's Twitter feed, tattoos, expulsion records etc. only matter - if they matter at all - insofar as they give credibility to the story that he was thumping on Zimmerman. He either was or he wasn't.
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We are screwed. This whole thing is going to blow up, this may be the incident, or the spark but who the hell knows. When the **** starts to hit the fan everyone is going to be in "shock and awe" of the speed that society collapses.

I fear we are on the verge of a world wide catastrophe the likes of which have not been seen since the fall of Rome ushered in the Dark Ages. I am preparing as fast and as much as I can but in all truth how are you going to defend yourself from the population of a "Downtown Chicago" descending onto your property looking to find their entitled goods.

It makes me want to move to the Mountains of Alaska, I honestly do not know what to do. I know screaming and pleading with people to wake up has not accomplished anything other than making me ostracized by former friends and family being labeled as one of those "Crazy Doomers."

God help us - we are headed straight for Pottersville at 1,000 MPH and it does not look like there is anything that can be done to stop it. It is almost like you have 3 sides.

1 - One group their whole life and retirement invested into a failing system and just hopes it holds together long enough for them to get theirs.

2 - One Group that has screamed at the top of their lungs for years only to be called crazy even though they know there is no way this insanity can ever be financed. This group has decided for the most part to just hunker down and prepare for the worst.

3 - This group for one reason or another wants the current system to blow up. Either they want to have some kind of utopian socialist society, they want to take out their perceived oppression on the man, or they are just complete idiots.

When it all goes to hell however I fear that group 3 is going to die by way of fighting amongst each other, running into a well armed group 1 or 2 person, or just plain starve to death. Group 1 is going to march in the streets demanding their Medicare and social security just like the 50 age and up group in Russia did and good portion of Group 2 is going to die off due to incompetence, failure to plan correctly, or at the hands of one of the other groups.

Either way to quote private Pyle in Full Metal Jacket - we are in a world of ****.

Rant off
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"in statistics that nobody will talk about in public for fear of being branded a "racist" but nonetheless true. Black people commit half the murders but are 13.6% of the population."

I got banned from ar15.com for posting that exact information. Political correctness is a disease. When you have a group of people who make up 13% of the total population, yet make up half the prison population you have a slight problem.....
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Enapa - Some of that prison population is for non-violent drug offenses. I personally prefer to stick with violent crime statistics. IMO, if you legalized drugs, most of the gangs go away anyway since they won't have any money source anymore.

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In 1982 I was almost 17, when my parents died and I was sent to Miami to live with my grand parents. I was enrolled in NMB ”say it like you mean it“. For GED so I could enlist in the service. When I turned 17. I was the only white guy there That was in 1983. Luckily I was a quick learner and got out of there fast. Tested out in 1 month. What has always astonished me is that they gave me an actual high school diploma, not a GED diploma. When I asked about it they said because I was enrolled in their program, and not just testing, it was like I was in high school.
For further info. When my parents got sick I dropped out of school in the 6 grade to go to work. I never went to high school except for those nights at NMB “say it like you mean it”. I are a proud graduate of NMB “ say it like you mean it” With that diploma I was able to enrollee in Embry Riddle, after I served. I always wondered how many other diplomas they gave out.

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Magus, go look at the stats - those aren't non violent drug offenders.

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Its all about the "victimhood" industry and the MSM that applauds it....
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I live just outside Baltimore, but I haven't been in the city (other than driving a couple blocks or driving I95 to get somewhere else) in years. I won't go see the Orioles or Ravens because they are downtown, even with free tickets (well maybe Ravens with FREE tickets but not a night game), go to Inner Harbor or any other popular, supposedly safe neighborhoods, etc., because I don't think it's safe. They are too many muggings and too many very publicized killings of both whites and blacks by blacks - people walking home from bars (Zach Sowers), walking home from the railroad station talking on the phone to his mother, just walking down the street. Public transportation - HAH! They're have been muggings and beatings on the buses and rapes on the Light Rail. I will never take the public transportation around here.

We bought a new house in late 2006 that was 2 miles away from and almost $60K more than our old house for the simple reason that my daughter COULD NOT attend the high school in our old neighborhood and I could not guarantee that she would get into a "magnet" high school that pulls from the entire county. No one, black or white, disagreed with our choice and I had several black friends who insisted that we move or that I send her to a private school because she is white and would not be safe in that high school. They also moved to other areas to escape that school. It wasn't an issue of race, it was class, upbringing, family and religious values, etc.

If/when the **** hits the fan, it's going to be ugly around here and the other big cities. The riots of 1968 very well might come back.

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These are the people who we will pay for medical care via Medicaid and Obamacare

Don't bet on it.

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If the UE rate was 4% and gas was $2.00 this **** would not be hitting the fan the way it is. It is much easier to stoke the flames when the tinder is dry, and that is what Jackson and Sharpton are doing. They aren't about civil rights. They want to see a race war and that is appalling.
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I used to go back to Erie PA from WA State in the early to mid 1990's with a few other guy friends to dig up old outhouse pits for the antique bottles tossed out 130 years earlier. The oldest homes (1850's-1880's) were generally in the black neighborhoods. We made it a point (3-4 fairly strong white men) to be out of those neighborhoods by about 3.30 in the afternoon, as young black males would gather on the street corners with their boom boxes, yelling at each other, and you just knew you didn't belong.

The older black folks, say, anyone in their 30's thru elderly black people in their 70's and 80's, were friendly to us, kind, welcoming and polite. They pretty much always gave us the ok to dig, and we treated their property with respect and left it as nice or nicer than we found it. Even back then, there was quite a difference between the young blacks and the more mature older black residents.

One funny story out of many I remember... one old black guy couldn't quite believe we were just looking for old bottles, he was sure we were hunting for gold. He let us know there were probably lots of gold teeth up in the old Erie Cemetery if we wanted to dig there! smiley

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Yeah Eagle I agree.

And Karl the Nation should be talking that but what is going on is not about dealing with these hard issues in a sane and rational manner. What is going on, is means to an end.

Or at least that is what my gut is telling me. There is a large powerful group that is ignoring all the facts and evidence of this case and the real core issues. They are pushing us into anarchy, then comes martial law and Presidential orders, that override the Supreme Court. This may be how we get our Hitler.

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This is really vexing....I'm starting to think the "Devil" is in charge of the airways here. The Truth is being purposefully submerged and a "narrative" is being put in its' place......appealing to the LCD.

They are pushing a race war and they will not let cooler heads prevail....even some churches are buying into this ****....almost like they want to push some kind of confrontation.

Is this just a smoke screen for some bigger ****? Whatever it is, it doesn't smell right.
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