Get's into the politics around 9:00

"To be a dissenter is to be unfunded."

Another cardiologist wrote this:

http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lose-W....

The hardest part in going low carb for me was the dreaming of bagels and muffins early on. Carbs and refined sugar really are addictive!

It was just proposed by some so-called scientists that CO2 causes obesity and over-eating .

Lots of the obese are actually under eating, that's the problem.

They are eating the wrong crap pushed by the usual suspects.

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Focus on a plant based diet although healthy meat is fine...not the feed lot type of meat that you see with beef or poultry production today.

My brother has the means to do so, but he has Alaskan wild-caught salmon delivered to him that his family eats several times a week. He is a freak for the Omega-3 in wild salmon.

For meat, I eat mostly salmon and eggs myself, anywhere from 500-750 calories/day. Both salmon and eggs have incredibly good nutritional elements for your diet.

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What about rice, asians aren't fat and they live long.

It's not the rice. It's the other stuff that promotes longevity (and smaller serving sizes).

OK...I am a 5 time a day user of diet sodas.....

I hate drinking water. What should I replace the diet soda with. (oh yeah...I hate milk as well, unless it is with some oreos.

My parents used to tell me, if I didn't want a glass of water, but a soda instead, I wasn't really thirsty.

Brown rice is better than white rice, but both are fine. These have "glycemic index" that is moderately high; but that is not a problem if you are an active person.

I have severely limited my gluten intake (because the modern grains are so genetically modified to INCREASE gluten levels..)and just by doing that I have shed a few pounds. The "wheat belly" blog is very instructive on gluten.

Also try avocado oil. I bought La Tourangelle Avocado Oil from Amazon (best price around) and use it for some things because my family doesn't always like the flavor of coconut oil. I use it instead of butter to bake fish (oil, lemon juice and garlic) and I toss nuts and seeds with it and some sea salt for snacks.

I've pretty much decided that if someone in the government recommends something - I'm running as fast as I can in the other direction.

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What about rice, asians?

There is an article in the NY Times about the amount of exercise one gets and insulin resistance.

So it seems it takes both things- high carb levels in the diet and inactivity for obesity to build up.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/29....

From the article:

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The Missouri volunteers were atypical in that regard. Each exercised 30 minutes or so most days and easily completed more than 10,000 daily steps during the first three days of the experiment. The average was almost 13,000 steps.

During these three days, according to data from their glucose monitors, the volunteers’ blood sugar did not spike after they ate.

But that estimable condition changed during the second portion of the experiment, when the volunteers were told to cut back on activity so that their step counts would fall below 5,000 a day for the next three days. Achieving such indolence was easy enough. The volunteers stopped exercising and, at every opportunity, took the elevator, not the stairs, or had lunch delivered, instead of strolling to a cafe. They became, essentially, typical American adults.

Their average step counts fell to barely 4,300 during the three days, and the volunteers reported that they now “exercised,” on average, about three minutes a day.

Meanwhile, they ate exactly the same meals and snacks as they had in the preceding three days, so that any changes in blood sugar levels would not be a result of eating fattier or sweeter meals than before.

And there were changes. During the three days of inactivity, volunteers’ blood sugar levels spiked significantly after meals, with the peaks increasing by about 26 percent compared with when the volunteers were exercising and moving more. What’s more, the peaks grew slightly with each successive day.

This change in blood sugar control after meals “occurred well before we could see any changes in fitness or adiposity,” or fat buildup, due to the reduced activity, Dr. Thyfault says. So the blood sugar swings would seem to be a result, directly, of the volunteers not moving much.

Curb, my purified water tastes delicious. It's totally different than normal municipal water that sort of smells like it came from a swimming pool.

You may try hot tea, which has beneficial antioxidants in it. There really isn't any good replacement for water, until they develop some real Brawndo for us....

Jotapay, I have seen tons of diets out there...and the general theme is avoiding the processed crap, the high glycemic foods...

Although I think plant based is a great idea, I love a good chunk of salmon. Lean, fresh meats, especially fish, is fine.

Hell, the American Indian was incredibly healthy and long-lived until they white man got to him and their diet was mostly meat, some berries, corn, and unrefined grains. Sort of the "Paleo" diet...(yet another diet..)

It's worth emphasizing the usefulness of the 'my fitness pal' app that Gen used (right?). I was taking care of the exercise end of things but not losing weight before I started tracking what I ate and sticking to a calorie threshold religiously.

After tracking caloric intake (and eliminating some of the most egregious caloric offenders, like candy, pizza and microbrews) I've lost 14 lbs (just since reading Karl's original post) and am now 2 lbs away from normal BMI. And that's without cutting out alcohol completely, or substantively changing my diet, which wasn't terrible except for the aforementioned items.

It's amazing what just knowing how many calories you're taking in (and using up) can do. For me, 90% of it is controlling the size of portions.

More free **** on the way! What a great country!

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Bank of America will significantly slash mortgage balances for as many as 200,000 borrowers.

Part of the $26 billion settlement reached between the five major mortgage servicers, the federal government and the attorneys general of 49 states and District of Columbia last month, Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) customers who qualify could see their mortgages reduced by an average of $100,000 or more, according bank spokesman Rick Simon.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/09/real_est....

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Renters, those that actually own their homes, those that are responsibly paying their mortgage - BAC says Fok You!

"Forks over Knives" is one movie you guys would love. Very compelling.

I need to tell you guys about the experience of a local organic farmer in Corvallis (Afton Field Farms) and his experience with the state and "open air slaughter" which has 1-2 log REDUCTION in bacteria counts...they said NO so he built a slaughterhouse with windows that went from floor to ceiling and could open out...therefore it was ENCLOSED but he could open it up quite a bit.

The interesting aspect of this was that the gov't agencies really frowned upon the small scale farming operations and actually made life difficult. This is a very economically viable model (very low input costs, very low transport costs) and the food is out of this world tasty. Whole Foods basically buys everything he grows (chicken, beef, pork, and eggs.)

Micron, I'm actually using that Android app (myFitnessPal) right now. It is great at tracking caloric intake. My current goal is to get back to 'normal' weight, which means dropping around 50 pounds. As long as you are disciplined, it's a very easy way to accurately monitor and control what you should be eating.

Aside from the lack of available information (which is not a problem from a caveat emptor perspective), what exactly does the Fedgov needs to get involved with Monsanto over? Are they not a private company people can choose to do business with, or not, as such individuals see fit?

Getting the fedgov to shut up and cease giving "advice" of all stripes would seem to be the only order of the day. If I'm missing something else, please explain.

Run. You can basically eat whatever you want if you run your ass off.

Ethanol, HFCS promotion, sugar market distortions, GMO mandates and attempts to sue people for BLOWN SEEDS, need I go on?

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I need to tell you guys about the experience of a local organic farmer in Corvallis (Afton Field Farms) and his experience with the state and "open air slaughter" which has 1-2 log REDUCTION in bacteria counts...they said NO so he built a slaughterhouse with windows that went from floor to ceiling and could open out...therefore it was ENCLOSED but he could open it up quite a bit.

The guy known as "Farmer John" from the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia was told the same thing, as recounted in the Food, Inc. documentary. He had to prove to them his operation was safer/cleaner.

Curb,
Try some lemon in your water. Oh and purified water for sure. People rib me at work because I won't drink out of the fountain. "It has a filter" they say. I ask them what kind of filter it is, and when it was last changed. They have no idea. If I walk 90' past the water fountain and out on the shop floor they have coolers with purified water. No brainer.

My woman cooks with coconut oil. Try pop corn, it rocks. She also cooks up Brussels sprouts, which I hate, but quartered and cooked in CO they are really good.

We started eating sweet potatoes recently. I've never cared for them because the only time I've been exposed is when someone shows up at Thanksgiving with the mashed up version with marshmallows and walnuts: Pass.

As to why Asians live so long because of rice? That's like saying my car is fast because it's red.

It's what they don't eat that allows them to live. They eat some funky crap to be sure, but it's stuff that doesn't have the words "poly, FDA #, -ethane,-asol" etc in it.

Just go to the deli in your grocery store and pick up any name brand spinach dip (for example). There's **** in there you can't pronounce. Did your gramma have those ingredients on hand? No.

I got a craving for indian food a while back. Grabbed a pack of marsala sauce and read the ingredients. Only 3 or 4 constitute the flavor of the meal and yet 10 other things that keep it from freezing during transit, allow it to flow freely from the envelope, thicken it, preserve it, etc.

Screw that. Bulk spices and went home and made marsala.

I make my own bread in a machine. Haven't bought a loaf of store bought bread since July. I have also yet to run out of a single ingredient from what I have stored. I know, bread is evil. Ooh. I lost 15 pounds last month.

And don't get between me and my grass fed ribeye.

Moderation folks. Smaller portions of higher quality food and savor them instead of cramming them in your pie hole while watching TV.

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OK...I am a 5 time a day user of diet sodas.....

I hate drinking water. What should I replace the diet soda with. (oh yeah...I hate milk as well, unless it is with some oreos.

Flavored sparkling or seltzer waters. Make sure you DON'T get the kind with aspartame or other "sugar substitute", or sodium, like they have at Wally World.

LaCroix
Mendota Springs
Faygo quarts
etc.

Maybe others can chime in. You can also buy stuff to make your own, but I suspect that you want a grab-n-go can.

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My brother (medical degree from Duke University) says the exact same thing. He did the research and concluded the FDA and mainstream medicine generally are a threat to your health. He dropped about 40 pounds and is running 5 miles a day now. He focuses on so-called "superfoods" and how they maintain your body's good health over time better than any pharmaceutical regimen could. The FDA's Food Pyramid guidelines are complete ****, as well as the frankenfoods produced with industrial methods and whose safety is rubberstamped by the FDA.

EXACTLY! Once I turned away from MSM "health" and started learning for myself I saw how messed up/evil the medical system was. I then turned my eye to finacials and did the same - that's when I found this place and I've been an avid TFer ever since

Great ticker. This needed to be said

Flaps: Cook sweet potato like you would bake a normal potato.

Slice open. Salt to taste and lots of butter.

Love.

[Edit: Some people like a little cinnamon on it, but I don't.]