Wrong-Way From All Angles (Obamacare)
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Wrong-Way From All Angles (Obamacare)
 

This morning an interesting three-way OpEd showed up in the Journal from Shaheen, Boxer and Murray, all Democratic Senators.

It managed, in a few column inches, to show exactly what's wrong with America when it comes to Health Care, and how the Catholic Church's decision to sleep with Satan led it to where it is now.

It was a historic victory for women's health when the Obama administration changed the law to require private health plans to provide preventive services including breast exams, HIV screening and contraception for free. This new policy will help millions of women get the affordable care they need.

Right there, in the first sentence, our three esteemed Senators show exactly how stupid they are, and where the root of the problem lies.

Nothing is ever free and when everyone is forced to buy a thing then everyone is forced to pay for it, which means that all this "mandate" has done is "spread the cost" to those who don't use such services.  As a consequence not even the intended users gets their contraceptives, breast exams and HIV screenings "for free" -- they simply get to force others to pay for them.

Now, sadly, there is an aggressive and misleading campaign to deny this benefit to women.

Why shouldn't women pay for the services they wish to consume on their own?  There is no "denial" of this "benefit"; since Obamacare contains an individual mandate there is no benefit at all since all are forced to pay, whether they will use it or not (or whether they even have the approprirate biological components to have a use for such things.)

It is being waged in the name of religious liberty. But the real forces behind it are the same ones that sought to shut down the federal government last year over funding for women's health care. They are the same forces that just tried to pressure the Susan G. Komen Foundation into cutting off funding to Planned Parenthood for breast-cancer screenings. Once again, they are trying to force their politics on women's personal health-care decisions.

The Komen Foundation is a private charity.  It should thus be free to allocate its money as it sees fit. Only in the world of government force does such an argument arise; free speech cuts all ways, and those who fund that private charity have a right to demand that if the charity wishes to continue to receive their funding that it change its policies.  The charity has a right to say no, and the donors have a right to stop donating.

Of course in the world of government none of these rights exist.  This is, in fact, the trap the Catholic Church fell into originally, but it wasn't an accident.  It was in fact their intentional throwing off of obligations that the Church has maintained for hundreds of years onto the State that led to this problem.

The Church loved this when it all worked their way.  Rather than being the source of beneficience and charity, it has shoved off that onto state programs, thereby taking what was a voluntary act of donation and turning into a compulsion enforced by government with literal guns-up-the-nose through the power of taxation.

Turning tithing into taxation was the literal Holy Grail for the Church -- it was able to codify as a matter of law what was religious dogma.  This, when it worked their way, was praised from the pulpit on Sunday and not one word was breathed about Establishment and its problems.

Of course that sort of tricksterism is the hallmark of Satan. 

When you sleep with the Devil it rarely works out well.

The Church has never given a damn about the First Amendment's establishment clause when willfully ignoring it was to their benefit!  By tossing off literal billions of dollars of annual expense in the United States alone that used to be allocated to charity works, from feeding the poor to running charity hospitals that provided care to people who had no money, The Church successfully avoided what was the historic source of these good works for the poor, funded entirely from voluntary donations.

Supporting the welfare state that has become built up in the western world has allowed The Church to slough off that obligation and maintain its wealth by substituting the power of government force for the power of persuasion from the pulpit.

There is also the hypocrisy of the Church's position, specifically:

Nationwide, 1.5 million women use contraceptives only as treatment for serious medical conditions.

True.  Birth control pills are in fact prescribed for various menstrual disorders; in that use they are not intended as a "birth control" at all, but are instead a therapeutic drug.  The Church's position of course is that women should suffer dysmenorrhea and related disorders in silence, as they believe that all drugs or devices that might interfere with conception are "intrinsically evil."  Of course it is all men who make these decisions; I recognize that as a man I seem to lack the ability to comprehend in full the decisions involved here, as God did not grant me a uterus or ovaries.  The Bishops, of course, have no problem arrogating medical decisions for others -- decisions they will never personally face in their own lives -- to themselves.

And now the punchline:

Consistent with other federal policies, churches and other groups dedicated to teaching religious doctrine are exempted from providing this coverage under a "conscience clause." But the law does include institutions that have historic religious ties but also have a broader mission, such as hospitals and universities. That's also consistent with federal policy—and with laws that already exist in many states.

Those now attacking the new health-coverage requirement claim it is an assault on religious liberty, but the opposite is true. Religious freedom means that Catholic women who want to follow their church's doctrine can do so, avoiding the use of contraception in any form. But the millions of American women who choose to use contraception should not be forced to follow religious doctrine, whether Catholic or non-Catholic.

Catholic hospitals and charities are woven into the fabric of our broader society. They serve the public, receive government funds, and get special tax benefits. We have a long history of asking these institutions to play by the same rules as all our other public institutions.

Yep.

The Church in fact took what was a uniquely private institution -- provision of charity through hospitals (run by the Church), food banks (ditto), soup kitchens and provision of shelter for homeless people and others in dire straights and preached for literal decades that the forced taking of money from the congregation, along with non-believers, was not only justified but a moral imperative, thereby relieving what was a consensual act of charity performed for The Lord and turning it into a legal obligation.

This burst of authoritarian jackboot application in fact met with the Church's explicit approval, not just silent assent.  That same approval was voiced at the time EMTALA was passed in the 1980s when forced provision of care for the indigent came into law in the United States, taking what was a voluntary act and turning it into a legal imperative.  The very same position -- that of forced provision of cost-shifted care, has been considered a laudable goal for literal decades by The Church when it comes to Medicaid and Medicare, both of which effectively force private payers and working people to subsidize medical care for those who are either indigent or retired and have saved nothing of their own. 

Then, having championed this organized theft from the citizens at literal gunpoint The Church stepped up to the trough and lapped up its share of hard-wrought blood from the people, attaching itself to the federal tit and drawing mightily upon tax benefits and transfer payments for its institutions (such as hospitals) that were once funded instead by the generosity of those who decided to tithe on Sunday.

In short the Church has, for decades, supported the entirety of the legal framework and the Democratic Left's position that the provision of charity, which was once provided for through voluntary tithe, was "best" provided instead in large part through mandatory taxation.

The very same Church that now bleats about the chains imposed by government, in short, was more than happy to help that very same government apply the chains of both fiscal and moral bondage to your neck, establishment be damned.

The Bishops all need to drink a great big chalice of Shut-The-****-Up until and unless they reverse, in public, their explicit endorsement of Medicaid, Medicare, EMTALA and the rest of the blatantly unconstitutional and outrageous cost-shifting and forced charity that they have all supported for the last 50 years.

The author is a Libertarian Catholic.

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In Europe they have the state working even harder for them. The various nations withhold tax from your salary for the church. Search Google or Wiki for "church tax". Depends on each country - some you can opt out - some you pay even if you are not a church member.
The state may also report your income to the church even if you have no withholding.
It wasn't Satan, but close enough - Hitler is the one who set up the church tax for Austria. Sort of hard to understand why he'd do that when we are all assured the churches opposed every action of Hitler at personal peril. A sweet little piece of historical revision.
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"Libertarian Catholic" is pretty close to an oxymoron.

Also, I just realized that EMTALA made illegal immigration so much more attractive. The Roman Catholic church fully expects those illegals, largely Roman Catholic themselves, to become voters and strengthen it (the RC church) in the US.

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Minor quibble. Komen is free to do with its money what it pleases. However, so are donors. Note: Komen's decision to defund Planned Parenthood resulted in a donor revolt. They relented. No government forced them to do anything. They made a business decision, plain and simple.

BTW - Not to make a religious debate, but I agree with Anti. The Catholic Church has become increasingly doctrinaire and hierarchical since the death of Pope John XXIII - not terribly compatible with Libertarianism.

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The Catholic Church has become increasingly doctrinaire and hierarchical since the death of Pope John XXIII first Council of Nicaea in 325 ad


fixed.

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Heretic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! burn him!!! burn him !!!

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Sincere question, Genesis, but is there a reason you're still Catholic? From what I've gathered here on this forum, you oppose the Church's teachings on contraception and abortion. You basically say straight out in this piece that the Church "sleeps with Satan." Do you believe the Catholic Church is THE church instituted by Christ or not?
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I have heard the business of the Vatican is banking. All this nonsense is to channel money to the banks and the rich. Looks like there aren't many Mother Theresas left..

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Looks like there aren't many Mother Theresas left..


Mannfm, sorry to say, but Mother Theresa wasn't even Mother Theresa. She was used as a tool to enlarge and enrich the church. Her main job after becoming famous was to raise money for the church fathers, and very little if any went to help the poor.

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I'm all for free contraception. When it comes to health care, it is THE most cost-effective treatment on the list. It's the one service that can be provided that, as a tax-payer, I can be confident will SAVE money. Contraception dispensors should be mandatory in every bathroom. Heck, make sure every mailbox, every public telphone every streetlight comes with one attached. Give a tax break or subsidy to everyone who will agree to get a norplant -make food stamps and other welfare contingent upon it.

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The senators said:
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This new policy will help millions of women get the affordable care they need.


This is a true statement because if they tried to buy equivalent goods/services as a nonparticipant in a health care plan they would pay 5 to 10 times more than as a participant.

The cost-shifting to the uninsured is a huge part of the problem.

Unfortunately, this "affordable care" is a large portion of the benefits to the FSA, and keeps these senators re-elected term after term.
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[The Bishops all need to drink a great big chalice of Shut-The-****-Up]

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Genesis wrote..
The Church in fact took what was a uniquely private institution -- provision of charity through hospitals (run by the Church), food banks (ditto), soup kitchens and provision of shelter for homeless people and others in dire straights and preached for literal decades that the forced taking of money from the congregation, along with non-believers, was not only justified but a moral imperative, thereby relieving what was a consensual act of charity and turning it into a legal obligation.


Here's some unsolicited advice - do NOT, under any circumstances, try to spin this perfectly true and also perfectly (for The Church) inconvenient line of reasoning to any member of the Church-going public unless you are absolutely certain - I mean certain like you're certain the sun will rise in the East tomorrow morning - that you are speaking to a fellow-traveler.

I've lost friends trying to explain precisely this. Seriously.

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Karl, thank you so very much for this ticker. You are an enlightened human for sure, and IMO your compassionate, intellectual rigor compensates quite well for your lack of ovaries (LOL).

In earlier threads on this subject, I noticed very strong opinions that could only be put forth by men who, by virtue of their biology, cannot truly understand what they were opining about. My favorite comment compared "only 9 months" to a "life" - as if human gestation was as simple as carrying around a bowling ball in a handbasket. Ha!

But I don’t want my comment to spark off another tangential debate. I just want to loudly acknowledge Karl’s discussion of the issue and say that I fervently applaud his take on it, as I agree 100% with everything he has said on the subject. Thanks, Karl.
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Genesis, you write as if it was the deliberate plan of the Catholic church to have the Democratic Left turn this country into a gigantic welfare state. Is that what you are saying?

There is no question that the Church thought this was a good idea, but it never occurred to me that the reason the Church approved was because it would save itself tons of money. I just figured bishops and priests were bleeding heart liberals.

The Catholic church does not endorse political candidates nor does it endorse political parties. It will say that one party is against abortion, but on the other hand the other party has better social programs. The individual Catholic is given to believe that abortion can be traded off for social programs, one party is as good as another depending upon the individual's preference. Personally, I cannot buy that an intrinsic evil can be traded off for government welfare.

This was written recently by Pope Benedict in Caritas in Veritate. "Economic activity cannot solve all social problems through the simple application of commercial logic. This needs to be directed towards the pursuit of the common good, for which the political community in particular must also take responsibility. Therefore, it must be borne in mind that grave imbalances are produced when economic action, conceived merely as an engine for wealth creation, is detached from political action, conceived as a means for pursuing justice through redistribution."

This quote, I believe, supports your criticism of the Church. It makes pretty clear what social justice means.
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Mgpacher, I can't speak for Karl, but in my opinion there is a cancer in the Church that is "bleeding heart" marxism. I think it is borne from an impatience in dealing with logical consequences and a misapplication of the concept of "common good" such that theft is tolerated in order to help the poor ("because otherwise they would starve!"). Unfortunately, I believe it comes from a lack of faith rather than some higher sense of empathy. I do believe this is rampant and tolerated, with significant ramifications, see ticker, however I would argue not wholesale endorsed based on your quote and numerous others in just recent history. The bishops are given a significant amount of leeway as they supposedly know better how to work in their local communities. Do they support a gigantic welfare state? In large numbers and to varying degrees, probably yes. Are they acting contrary to Church teaching? Yes. But that does not sanction their actions any more than a misguided pope's actions would be sanctioned. However, Dante has adequately described their just reward.

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I don't think the Bishops or Church are trying to save money, I think they're just bleeding heart liberals who are only now beginning to see that they've unwittingly made a deal with the devil.

They probably think their bleeding heart philosophy is consistent with the teachings of Christ, but Jesus was not a Socialist and He did not instruct his followers to take from those who have and give it to those who do not have.

Seems like many clergy have been more followers of Robin Hood than Jesus Christ.

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Yeah I read that from the Pope. He made his and the Church's bed with that **** and now he gets to eat it.

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Wow!!! I never realized Catholics had "big government is the answer" preached to them from the pulpit.

Now I understand why Santorum says the dumbass stuff he says...
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Christ was/is a libertarian - Did he ever force another person do something they did not want to do? Free will and all.




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When the Roman Church enjoyed establishment, tithes were not voluntary. As a matter of fact, some places it held serfs on its lands. (See the Durants' blah, blah, blah; etc., etc., etc.) As an institution it has been hostile to individual sovereignty far, far longer than any two-bit socialist gee-gaws like the 'Bamster.

So it doesn't surprise me in the least that Rome welcomes the individual mandate. It is evidence, to me anyway, that just because the institution has adapted to disestablishment, it has not changed its spots. In demanding that the civil arm respect its particular peccadillos, I would aver, that it is acting consistently with its history. And make no mistake, if the 'Bamster lands outside on his ass in January of 2013, the message will have been received loud and clear at Babylon on the Potomac.

Meanwhile I would argue that libertarianism springs directly from Protestantism and its rereading of Bible verses such as II Timothy 2:5 (KJV):

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

A verse, which with others like it, in one fell swoop not only reveals any kind of Christian priesthood to be a meaningless appendage, it also renders the individual as sovereign in all things pertaining to God and -- by extension into the the realm of merely-mortal concerns -- all else besides.

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Meanwhile I would argue that libertarianism springs directly from Protestantism and its rereading of Bible verses such as II Timothy 2:5 (KJV):

And yet the Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians and the rest of the Protestant clergy usually offer the same support to gov't programs.

If you're aware of any church-wide libertarian policies amongst any of the Protestant religions, please share. Many were just as big Obama supporters as the Catholic clergy.

And then there's the Protestant churches with predominately black congregations....Not exactly a Gadsden Flag crowd.

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I'm talking historically, Pj. The type of Protestants I'm talking about -- which included many of the signers of the Declaration of Independence BTW -- are mostly dead by now. These days mainline Protestant denominations, mobbed up with the National Council of Churches, are more like two-bit socialist organizations than they are Christian. At the same time the Fundies have been wholly duped by the Dominion (a.k.a. Kingdom) Theology nonsense espoused by the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. As far as the black congregations go, they've been political from the days of Jim Crow out of self defense. And now with the 'Bamster in, why, they're walkin' in tall cotton. They think.

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