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Jubber
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Isn't this what Kyle Bass was told by a Democrat (can't remember his name} that they would trash the dollar...

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“The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money.” Thatcher
Dbongo
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USD is one big joke (unfortunately)and so is the market----more emphasis on getting the market higher though and it's working. Pathetic, disgusting, sickening.....not sure it can be stopped any time soon however I do believe one day the music will slow down if not stop.

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I Heart TZA! Ben Bernanke, IMO, will go down in history as the GREATEST Central Banker of all time. Keynesian economics DOES work folks!
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I feel like I should do a really deep bow now.

For the article, and for the corn-holing were getting from the liberal policy advocates.

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It is inflate or die. BB thinks they can do it with without killing themselves as well. So far it is working. Like I said, I am not sure if the rules of mathematics are 100% applicable to monetary policy.
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Jubber,

Kyle Bass I believe was told that by the Obama administration. As I recall from the interview, the Obama administration was going to increase manufacturing jobs. He asked if that meant decoupling wages from the dollar to achieve that and the Obama administration persons response was in so many words, they were going to trash the dollar to achieve this increase in manufacturing jobs. I don't know if he actually named names at any point.

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Dear Euroland: Relax, Germany has a plan for your money!

Political Capital Defined: We are out of money but will tax our citizens for whatever it takes to "SAVE" the Euro.
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Tf member Christiangustafson has this chart posted in his technicals thread- at times I thought it was the work a bear drinking absinthe !
Ben clearing the way to his abyss.

http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w....

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Since it costs a lot to win, and even more to lose, You and me bound to spend some time wonder'n what to choose. Goes to show, you don't ever know, watch each card you play and play it slow...Wait until that deal come round, don't you let that deal go down, no no. Garcia/Hunter.
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It ain't gonna work.

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We all know that Gen, but the issue is will we all be dead by the time it is realized.
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No. Four to five years max more likely two or thereabouts unless MASSIVE changes are made first.

We are now in the zone where I can determine WHAT breaks first.

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The box of acceptable interest rates gets smaller and smaller as time goes on.

No way out.
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Oh yes there is...

smiley

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Nice ramp in the stock market on the release.

You know there was some conviction behind the dollar selloff when even the Euro/dollar, which had been under pressure all day, spiked hard.

There was a near parabolic move in precious metals as well.
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How many people can continue surviving on .50% interest rates while paying 15% to 29% on their credit cards, $3.50 a gallon for gas and screaming food costs.............................
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That IS a small problem.

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BERNANKS OWN WORDS

If I am ever faced with a depression, I will lower the interest rates to zero.
(Done… or close enough. The last time I checked the interest rate was about one quarter of a percent… pretty much zero!).

2. I will buy securities from the bank to expand the Federal Balance Sheets.
(Done… The Fed’s assets are comprised of a variety of financial instruments including government bonds, corporate bonds, mortgage-backed securities, etc. On the liabilities side, the Fed holds money in circulation and reserves (money that commercial banks are required to set aside with the Central Bank). By “printing money” ex nihilo (literally out of nothing) money supply increases and the Fed’s liabilities rise. However, the Fed now has the funds to go to the open market and purchase more financial securities from commercial banks, thereby increasing its assets (so that total assets still equals total liabilities). This is the mechanism by which the Fed “expands its balance sheet.” )

3. I will increase the money supply.
(Done… qe1, qe2, qe3, etc! He’s had the printing press running full steam for the last 4 years at least. Numerous secret injections of funny money has been put into the market to keep it from crashing. We bears know this all too well, as the market just refused to crash!)

4. I will buy our countries’ debt.
(Done… the Fed’s have been secretly buying their own bonds and treasury notes for the last year now as China and the rest the world wised up and stopped buying our debt)

5. I will devalue the dollar by 40%.

(NOT DONE… Yet!)


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A democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on,the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy
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Karl,

Even if we balance it today, the debt still exists.

Also, a 40% reduction in Government spending freezes credit.

I need to see the math.
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Moon: hope you can document that last one....

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No problems today, only happy bullish markets advancing on every word Big B blathered. You really have to wonder whether the shell game can be extended to infinity as that is the amount of money available for printing in cyberspace. I am sure at some point this ends badly, but since Ben got serious after the market crash in early 2009, its largely been up up and away...except for bears and those with a rational view of future consequences. But for the foreseeable future, there will never be another "bear market" in nominal terms while Ben is guiding the ship, when in doubt either buy the dip or lose your cash savings! (That is today's lesson).

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Reason: Cited speech...
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It ain't in there


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And the windup ....

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It is if you think he'll repeat what he thought was a really good idea.

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Although a policy of intervening to affect the exchange value of the dollar is nowhere on the horizon today, it’s worth noting that there have been times when exchange rate policy has been an effective weapon against deflation. A striking example from U.S. history is Franklin Roosevelt’s 40 percent devaluation of the dollar against gold in 1933-34, enforced by a program of gold purchases and domestic money creation. The devaluation and the rapid increase in money supply it permitted ended the U.S. deflation remarkably quickly. Indeed, consumer price inflation in the United States, year on year, went from -10.3 percent in 1932 to -5.1 percent in 1933 to 3.4 percent in 1934.17 The economy grew strongly, and by the way, 1934 was one of the best years of the century for the stock market. If nothing else, the episode illustrates that monetary actions can have powerful effects on the economy, even when the nominal interest rate is at or near zero, as was the case at the time of Roosevelt’s devaluation.
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The numbnuts in Washington DC are gonna be happy. Lower interest on the debt = more debt possible.

In their minds, the interest will NEVER rise, as they've said many times.

They will be able to accomplish their Keynesian dream! 3 trillion deficits, yes we can!

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We were on the gold standard then and the claimed threat doesn't exist.

Revise and apologise or say bye bye

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I'm in on this sheeple business...bought myself a new car a few days ago...f'it, have some fun while you can.

(Didn't finance it though, so not full sheeple status)
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