It's Entertainment Eh?
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Posted 2012-01-17 13:26
by Karl Denninger
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It's Entertainment Eh?
 

Oh really, that's all it is?

Deen defended her fattening cooking style -- and her decision to keep her diabetes diagnosis a secret for three years -- to TODAY's Al Roker. "I have always encouraged moderation," she said. "I share with you all these yummy, fattening recipes, but I tell people, in moderation... it's entertainment. People have to be responsible."

Deen continued, "Like I told Oprah, 'Honey, I'm your cook, not your doctor.' You have to be responsible for yourself."

Ah, so when we eat a lot of fat and a lot of high-glycemic carbs, together, we're surprised by the outcome?

You're kidding, right?  You have to be kidding.

Look, you can eat a lot of carbs, but then you better eat few to no fats.  Or you can eat a lot of fats, but few to no carbs.  If you eat both, well, you will get fat. 

And you increase the risk of getting Type II Diabetes.

A lot.

So pick one.  If you like your steak (and I do) then restrict the carbs.  If you can't deal with being sans-pasta then get the damn fats out of your diet.  Pick one and live that way, and while you're at it get your ass out of your chair and move!

But heh, that's not all!  Deen kept her diagnosis secret for three years!  Was that to allow some more pimping of donut-and-cheeseburgers on TV or was it so she could negotiate a nice fat deal with a pharma company to further exploit the morbidity of Americans? 

That's a joke, right? 

Oh wait... it's not.

What's even better is this:

The chef, who has come under fire in recent years for the unhealthy nature of many of her recipes, also announced that she is working as a paid spokesperson for the drug company Novo Nordisk, which manufactures Victoza - an injectable, non-insulin drug used in the treatment of type 2 diabetes.

Let's see, is the message this?

Don't worry sweetie, you can eat all the crap you want, sit on your ass all day, get as fat as you'd like, and then we'll fix it all with a nice little drug. (For a while, after which we won't talk about right now.  Don't read the fine print; in your future are amputations, impotence and heart disease -- or worse -- along with a drained bank account.)

Where's the mention of the price of this drug?  Let's see -- 1 box contains 2 "pens" (the drug is an injectable.)  It lists out at about $350 per box at an average retail price.  Each "pen" contains 18mg of drug and the unit delivers (in therapeutic use) either 1.2mg or 1.8mg per use, meaning that a "pen" lasts either 10 or 15 days.  You get to inject yourself in the thigh or other "meaty" part of your body (that sounds quite entertaining, right?) and the drug itself requires refrigeration (isn't that nice!) If I'm reading the specs on this drug correctly one box will last either 20 or 30 days.  Assuming you obtain therapeutic results from the lower dose that's $4,200 a year out of your pocket now and forever ($6,400 if you need the higher dose), since you're not going to change either what goes down the piehole or how often your ass comes out of your chair (if you had done that, and maybe if you do it now, you might not need the drug at all!) 

You want to know why health insurance is $1,000/month?  It might have something to do with drugs like this that come about due to demands for a "fix" to correct self-inflicted metabolic damage from those who don't want to write the personal checks that come with their behavior!

It doesn't stop there.  The drug has a nice list of side effects, including a finding that it causes thyroid tumors -- malignant thyroid tumors -- in mice.  Then there's the risk of renal failure (meaning dialysis in your future if you get unlucky on that), among other things.

But this is all entertainment, right, not to mention lots of profit for the drug companies that are really, really happy that you stuffed your pie hole and sat on your ass and instead of changing that they then get to sell you $350 worth of medication -- every month -- for however long you manage to continue to live.

Yeah, this is all very entertaining right up until your dick falls off, both your feet have to be amputated and you go blind.  And that's if you don't get a bad dice roll and wind up with thyroid cancer (at which point they'll happily cut the tumor out of you which will then require you to take synthroid -- another expensive drug -- for the rest of your life!) or even worse, renal failure ("Hell", incidentally, has a synonym listed -- it's dialysis, which is what you'll be facing if that happens.)

Leave it to our wonderful media folks to not only lead you right up to the edge but then "partner" with a pharmaceutical company to profit (again) from the malaise that they helped induce.

If you want to know why I believe the entire putrid "health" industry needs to be literally razed and then fed into the wood chipper feet-first this sort of stunt is just the latest poster child example.

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Randy123
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Completely agree.

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and when some of us see through the [bull****x] and decide we'd like to oh, I don't know buy raw milk... it's illegal! smiley
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Down 7 poundage in 9 days getting rid of carbs. At this pace by November I will have vanished.

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Is not just that you find this stuff but you manage to link it with probably cause and likely effect! Bravo!

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Quote:
Don't read the fine print; in your future are amputations, impotence and heart disease -- or worse

A detail edit might include retinopathy which is first to be detected, and often first to cause serious diabetic complications (ie blindness).

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Genesis wrote..
Look, you can eat a lot of carbs, but then you better eat few to no fats. Or you can eat a lot of fats, but few to no carbs. If you eat both, well, you will get fat.


It's absolutely stunning how few people get this. Then again, it took me the better part of my 45-year life to figure it out so I don't know why I'm surprised.

My diet is simple - chicken, eggs and lean beef, low-glycemic carbs (beans, lentils) and lots of veggies - coupled with moderate exercise (400-600 cal) 4x per week - and that's how I lost 55-pounds (278 to 223) in 11-months least year. Even after the diet-dreadful Holidays I'm only 232 now - and the weight is coming right back off.

Not hard, folks.

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Right now the medical community is just recently past the stage where they might as well be shaking a can of chicken bones at you to treat under or over weight and metabolic diseases.
Quite a bit of the advice doctors give out is out of date and nobody seems in any great rush to get up to date if it would harm the sale of hospital weight loss programs or diet drugs.
They can't even agree when a person is overweight - labeling folks who are lean and heavy with muscle as obese.
The problem is compounded by food industries that all want the maximum possible sales of their product - even if it kills you.
It is almost universal to blame the patient if their program does not work. The patient MUST be cheating and is simply a low class person of weak character if he doesn't lose.

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Almost all of your comments are accurate and not misleading. You did make one small error. Generic synthroid is on walmart's list of $4 drugs.
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I recently had a visitor from Asia park their butt in my house for a few days. After the first 24 hours, he was stunned that there is so much Pharma advertising on TV. He’s right by the way. It is sickening that we allow these guys to push their synthetic wares ad nauseum and yet find it offensive and illegal I might add for Phillip Morris to advertise cigarettes on TV. All in the name of science I guess. smiley

Paula Dean is indicative of what the entertainment business has become: Exploit the public for every last penny but wrap it in a sob story and top it with a pretty bow. smiley

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I've got a new approach that I'm going to take. My family can not give up the carbohydrates and I'm the only one who seems to suffer from addiction to them. Breakfast - only protein. Lunch - only protein. Then for dinner I will eat some low glycemic carbs like beans, brocoli or salad vegetables along with protein. Friday dinners will be pasta. Love the stuff, but I can't do it too often.

If this works I'll let you know. Also giving thought to adding a piece of fruit in the evening. My problem is in total caloric intake when I'm eating carbs. I think that if I only allow low glycemic carbs at dinner and some fruit at nite that I won't be affected by the addiction. Throughout the day I'll be on only protein so I won't have those sugar highs and lows.

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I confess I do enjoy watching Paula (and I do share her love of butter ;) but still I can see that many of the things she makes are just obscenely high in fat and sugar.

It is mostly entertainment for me because I actually make very few of her dishes and even then I cut back on the butter and sugar and we never miss it.

I think her son Bobby is going to show us that healthier versions of her southern food are just as delicious.

If she has cozied up with pharma, I am hugely disappointed.
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Cost of plain old insulin and needles without insurance or a prescription:

One bottle of long-lasting insulin at Walmart is about $25. One case of 100 insulin syringes and needles at Kroger's is about $15. A sharps container is about $3, and alcohol swabs are about $2. All of those supplies will last about one month, so the monthly cost is about $45.

Why in the world would people pay at least $350 per month for Victoza?

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and when some of us see through the [bull****x] and decide we'd like to oh, I don't know buy raw milk... it's illegal! smiley

there's a farm not too, too, far from me in Texas that you can buy fresh, raw, milk from. and butter. and cheese made from the milk.

would post a link but not sure if it's allowed. it's in Schulenburg if you want to do a search. I believe they ship (not sure about the milk though).

also, when i lived in Vermont, farmers could GIVE away raw milk, but couldn't sell it. I was lucky enough to have a friend down the road who had a nice herd of Jersey cows! I'd trade some mozzarella or butter back to him for milk.

and Karl, thank you for keeping the exercise and nutrition aspect of living a healthy life in the foreground. This is the most important issue in fighting the war on "drugs."



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Saw this last night. Worth watching.
http://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_oliver.ht....

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Blueskies - Thanks for info. Found the link.

TMD - Isn't that a high protein diet? I've done the high protein thing for a long time & am experimenting with a more balanced diet. Put pizza topping (no crust) on top of meatloaf (made with coconut, not bread crubs) last night. Felt bloated.
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I've been mainly doing a primal style diet (with some modifications - I'm not entirely there yet) since about June of last year. I feel quite a bit better and am hovering pretty close to my target weight.

However, this past week and weekend, I was out of town at a convention for software developers where food was provided. Needless to say, the primal thing went out the window for a few days. Especially due to the lack of good sleep up there, I found myself drinking a lot of soda to stay awake. I have now gotten sick for the second time this winter (the other time was also after a carb binge). By this time in the winter, I've usually been to the doctor 4 or 5 times and usually have constant low-grade sinus problems. This past winter has been different, with almost no sickness at all.

Couple that with the fact that I don't like bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, etc. all that much anyway, and I think that is a ringing endorsement for cutting them out, at least for me personally.
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I watched my father go through all the complications from diabetes in the mid nineties. First the injections, then dialysis, then gone at age 60. He just could never keep the weight off. He never got to see my kids. I miss him.

I'm down about 12 lbs over the last few months too, and I need to go about 15 more. Someone here posted that one diet where you basically fast for 2 consecutive 24 hour periods per week (eat stop eat, I think) and it has worked for me. And I still do the low carb thing, but I'm not perfect.....can't resist chips and salsa....or sushi. Cut way back on drinking and getting back to riding at least one century a year.

For me, it's just easier to eat nothing than to eat small portions or to completely avoid one thing.


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Gen wrote..
You want to know why health insurance is $1,000/month? It might have something to do with drugs like this that come about due to demands for a "fix" to correct self-inflicted metabolic damage from those who don't want to write the personal checks that come with their behavior!

Couldn't agree more. This is the major problem I have with health insurance... the cost of another person's laziness or ignorance (or both) is subsidized by people who actually do take care of themselves and have no recourse in dealing with the freeloaders.
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Oh, quick confession on my diet - 1-day out of every 7-10 days I eat as much as I want of whatever I want. If I want to chow-down on Ho-Ho's, ice cream and pasta then I do it - and then go back to "The Plan" the very next day. By the end of the 7-10 day cycle I was typically down 1-3 pounds from where I was the day I took "off" (sometimes more, never less). No plateaus in 6-months, at least.

Takes the cravings away. By the end of my "diet day off" whatever I was craving I wasn't craving and generally don't crave again for a month or so. By the end of the year last year I had to literally force myself to take my "day off" days - I'd run out of stuff I was craving.

May not be for everyone, but it works for me like a charm for me.

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Deen wrote..
You have to be responsible for yourself


She's right.
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That's kind of how I made the transition as well. Eating whatever the hell I wanted on Saturday eventually contrasted enough with how I felt the rest of the time that I started naturally tapering off on the worst offenders. Usually the only off-primal things I get on Saturdays now are rice and alcohol. I still eat legumes during the week though, but in very limited quantities.
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Pick up any women's magazine at the check out stand and you will find one article on losing weight followed by another one with yummy fattening food, often desserts. They are appealing to the masses, but it's very schizophrenic to me.

TMD, there was a diet book out years ago where you could have all the carbs you wanted for a one-hour period every day. The theory was that your body would get the insulin shock/rush only once a day and would come down off it in a reasonable period of time, helping to lose weight. I didn't follow it, but a couple people I know who did lost weight and kept it off as long as they followed that plan.

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Anyone has a notion of the time window for the fat / high glycemic carb XORing?

A meal? A day? A week?

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What you're trying to do is unlikely to work as the discipline is HARD to maintain. Trying to "have your cake and eat it too" is likely to fail.

Pick one.

This doesn't mean you can't OCCASIONALLY cheat -- you can. "Occasionally" though is once every couple of weeks, NOT every couple of days!

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