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Traumaboyy
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Klayman is the ****!! Very good news Steph thanks!!

Unfortunately I would have to bet my chips on them running out the clock. They will wait till after the re-election, then put out some per curiam decision like:

"Yes there is evidence that POTUS did not meet the requirements, but being the twice elected sitting president overrides any corrective action and any attemted correction by this court would quite possibly cause irreparable harm to the country" or just say it is congress's job to police this ****.

Internally they could justify it saying well we gave Rethugs a Bush win now lets even the score.

Maybe I have become overly pessimistic over the last few years with our Justice system.

But we can still dream!!
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No problem - the oligarchy doesn't mind dumping Obummer, because they have their more perfect bagman in place inline

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Interesting....

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The question of President Obama's draft card: Has evidence been destroyed?



WASHINGTON, May 7, 2012 — Changes in the wording of Selective Service System record-keeping requirements, made days after the opening of an investigation into the alleged forgery of President Barack Obama’s selective service registration form, raise serious questions about U.S. Government intentions.

The new rules allow existing copies of documents that may be sought by investigators to be destroyed.

The Selective Service System’s new privacy rules were published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, September 20, 2011, four days after the September 16 announcement by World Net Daily that the Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff’s Office “Cold Case Posse” was opening an inquiry with full subpoena power into alleged forgery of several documents concerning Obama’s birth and draft registration.

The new rules, which constitute the first update to Selective Service System privacy regulations in eleven years, were published under the title, “Privacy Act of 1974; Publication of Notice of Systems of Records.”

Ongoing controversy surrounding allegations that some of Obama’s personal identification documents and records, including his Selective Service draft registration form, are forgeries came into sharp focus seven months ago. The “Cold Case Posse,” under the leadership of Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio, opened an inquiry in response to those allegations.

“This is a full-fledged criminal investigation,” Michael Zullo, lead investigator, told Communities @WashingtonTimes.

“Sheriff Arpaio sent two written requests in March to the Selective Service System requesting President Obama’s draft registration records. Selective Service System officials responded to Arpaio in writing, but did not turn over any of President Obama’s registration records.”

“We believe they are stonewalling,” Zullo added. "In their latest reply letter to the Sheriff, they do not comment on, or even allude to, the microfilm being available to inspect."

Changes in the wording of the privacy rules alters the status of federal records, like the requested draft registration records, from “record copies” to “nonrecord copies.” Nonrecord copies are subject to disposal.

Previously unnoticed, the new rules allow the government to destroy microfilm copies of Selective Service registration records and may create new obstacles for law enforcement agencies that are requesting records access for investigative purposes.

This change also hampers media organizations and government watchdog groups from seeking records access under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). A second change, to a section of the rules governing the sharing of information with state and local governments, seems aimed squarely at blocking inquiries like the one launched by the Cold Case Posse.

If microfilm copies of selective service records are destroyed, it would make it difficult to prove whether or when Obama registered with the Selective Service. At issue is whether he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles as a foreign student, possibly using an Indonesian passport. Foreign students are not required to register with the Selective Service, hence if there were no record of his registration, this would raise questions about Obama’s legal status at that time. Was his status that of a U.S. citizen or a foreign student, possibly with dual passports?

A paper copy of Obama’s selective service registration card, called a form “SSS-1,” was obtained days before the 2008 elections through a FOIA request by Stephen Coffman, a retired Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent. A spokesperson from ICE, an agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, confirmed that Coffman retired from the agency in June, 2007.

More here: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/n....

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Arpaio and crew better be covering their 6 at all times...
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The plot thickens.

O has his ...


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O to Holder ... "They're getting way too close for comfort."

(Now THIS is what MSM covers ...)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/justi....
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Justice Dept plans to sue Sheriff Arpaio

Federal authorities said Wednesday that they plan to sue Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio and his office over allegations of civil rights violations, including the racial profiling of Latinos.

The U.S. Justice Department has been seeking an agreement requiring Arpaio's office to train officers in how to make constitutional traffic stops, collect data on people arrested in traffic stops and reach out to Latinos to assure them that the department is there to also protect them.


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Liberty Legal Foundation email 5/9/2012....

"It’s amazing how hard anti-constitutionalists fight when you question their authority. Our eligibility cases simply point out that the Supreme Court has already decided that no person can serve as President unless both of their parents were U.S. citizens at the time of their birth. Our reward for making this simple observation is to be called liars, unethical, stupid, and many other slanderous names. But the most amusing accusation thrown our way so far is that our eligibility challenge itself is unconstitutional.

Last week Liberty Legal Foundation filed documents in both the Arizona and Tennessee eligibility lawsuits, opposing the Defendants’ multiple motions to dismiss our cases. In their motions the defendants claim that our lawsuit is unconstitutional because, according to them, the electorate has the authority to determine whether a candidate is constitutionally qualified to serve as President.

Considering the poor job our public schools have done teaching about the Constitution, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear this argument coming from a member of the media. But to have this argument actually filed in federal court, by an attorney that supposedly understands constitutional law, is surprising and sad.

Our response remains the same: The Constitution is an anti-democratic document. One of its primary functions is to protect the rights of individuals against a tyrannical majority. In other words, some rights cannot be taken away even if 99.9% of the population wants to take them away, at least not without first amending the Constitution. So, 99.9% of the population can vote for Obama, but he is still Constitutionally barred from serving as President because his father was never a U.S. citizen. The electorate simply does not have the authority to change the Constitutional requirements for the President.

This is Constitutional Law 101, but apparently we’ve fallen so far away from our Constitutional Republic that we have to remind attorneys and courts of this basic fact.

The defendants also argued that granting our lawsuit and preventing the DNC from sending nomination letters stating Obama is eligible for the Presidency would violate the Democratic Party’s First Amendment rights. We responded that the First Amendment does not grant the Democratic Party a right to commit fraud.

Of course the defendants also tried their favorite argument: that we don’t have standing to sue. However, the 9th Circuit recently ruled that Independent Presidential candidates have the right to sue competitor Presidential candidates. Our first named Plaintiff is Independent Presidential Candidate John Dummett. Mr. Dummett clearly has standing, according to the 9th Circuit. It is also well established that if one Plaintiff has standing to sue, then all the Plaintiffs can proceed with their lawsuit which includes every Liberty Legal Foundation member that has joined the Certification Class Action. So, assuming the courts follow precedent, we should defeat these motions.

The defendants argued several other grounds, all of which should fail. You can read their motions and our responses on the Tennessee and Federal Ballot Challenge pages. As always, we will keep you up to date as new developments occur.

Thank you all again for your continued support of Liberty Legal Foundation. With your continued help we will restore our Constitutional Republic."

This is the Independent Presidential Candidate that Liberty Legal claims gives them standing....
http://www.johndummett.us/index.html


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...the First Amendment does not grant the Democratic Party a right to commit fraud.
And that is the real heart of the matter right there.

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Holy crap holy crap holy crap... check THIS out. Leading and bleeding on Drudge too!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/....

Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.

It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows (image and text below):

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Shame on them for accepting the LFBC as authentic...

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never-mind— I read it wrong

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president of the law review

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now what??

is this what Biden meant when he said he could become president any time he wanted to??

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The same stupid people will argue that citizen (by right of his mother's citizenship) is enough and natural born citizen is just something thought up by racist haters. Wish this would change something but unless TPTB decide it is time to take him out, I don't see it changing anything.

Just a little cynical these days, ya know.
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Born in Kenya was O's biographical background... until it wasn't a suitable life history for a candidate for POTUS. The end justifies the means and all that...

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Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Apologizes To Arizona

After days of ridicule for launching a conspiracy theory-fueled investigation into Barack Obama’s birth certificate, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett on Tuesday backed off his threat to keep the president off the ballot in November and apologized to his state.

“If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn’t my intent,” Bennett said in an interview with Phoenix radio station KTAR. “He’ll be on the ballot as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has.”

Bennett said he still intends to keep asking Hawaii for verification that Obama’s birth certificate is authentic. But he said he only plans to use Hawaii’s answer as a way to satisfy demands from constituents who remain unconvinced Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States and so therefore eligible to be president.

He also said he talked to Hawaii’s attorney general on Monday night and clarified what he is looking to have verified. He said he “reworded” his request and expects to receive a response from Hawaii officials “in the next 24 to 48 hours.”

Last week, Bennett told a different Phoenix radio station it was “possible” he would keep Obama off the state’s ballot in November if Hawaii did not provide him with a satisfactory answers to his investigation.

On Tuesday, Bennett told talk show hosts Mac Watson and Larry Gaydos he had no idea about the wave of criticism he endure get after launching his investigation into the president’s birth certificate. He said again that he doesn’t consider himself a birther and he believes the president was born in Hawaii but he did this to satisfy a small number of vocal people who kept sending him angry emails about it.

“I feel like I was just trying to glue the far little corner of the carpet down,” Bennett said. “And as soon as you just touch the carpet, the whole floor buckles.”

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.co....


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Hawaii verifies Obama birth records to Arizona's election chief

HONOLULU, Hawaii - The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent's name on its November ballot.

Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.

Hawaii — which has vouched for Obama's birth in the state several times — didn't bow to the request easily. The Aloha State told Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to prove he needed the records as part of normal business.
Wisch says Hawaii got what it needed.

It's not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy Bennett. A spokesman says he received the verification and will comment Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-verifies-ob....


Well, that ends that.

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1. Wonder who/what got to Bennett?

2. I'd like to see the "verification" document/email/whatever it was.

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Bets on NOT ever knowing.

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Yup.

Wonder if the timing of this has anything to do with members of Joe's posse being in Hawaii?

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Betcha he owns a hot tub...

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It would be "funny" if he used the hot tub when its 100+ degrees.

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How much do you want to bet that what they gave him was the same thing that was floated out years ago...a state certificate (not the original LFBC). They're trying to diffuse Arpaio's investigation in the public opinion.
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if it was that easy, it would have been done long ago...its a fake verification

and what about the forgery charges against the administration for the LFBC?
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I'd like to see the "verification" document/email/whatever it was.
Me, too. Exactly what was this "verification?" Was it only a Hawaiian official saying so? Or was it the actual original birth record?

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