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why did the other attorneys leave?

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http://streamcasting.com/art2superpac_4x....

I've got it here. This seems to be the best one, but the audio still sucks. Orly presenting right now.

Just tuned in. Did I get this right: Obama is NOT represented?! They blew this off?!

If that's the case, if I were the judge to all plaintiffs: GRANTED. Dismissed.

The microphone on the witness stand is much better than the one for the attorneys.

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Why is the judge being so mean to her? He was OK with the other plantiffs' counsel.

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Yep -- Obams's counsel blew off the hearing.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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'Cuz Orly has a problem with complying with procedure. She is her own worst enemy when it comes to court rules.

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Yep.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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She's talking about the Social Security Number problem now.

I wish the other attorney would take over - the one who doesn't even want to make that or the 'where he was born' an issue.

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What is your major malfunction, Orly?
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Susan Daniels, a private eye from Cleveland, Ohio.

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Those attorneys have already presented and left. Now it's The Orly Show.

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OK so the other attorneys argued that Obama wasn't a Natural born citizen

and —just taking a guess here—

Orly is arguing that Obama is not Obama??

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I don't know what the credentials are of the lady on the stand right now, but she's saying that there is something seriously wrong with the SS# Obama is using...and it doesn't appear to have anything to do with what state it was issued in.

Orly (and her Plaintiffs) allege that Obama has multiple aliases and false credentials, including, but not limited to: his SS#, property tax records, and military draft records.

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I agree Pika....Van Irion is a brilliant attorney....He knows how to frame his complaints....His Obamacare class action is what needs to be done too....Overturning the Wickard v. Filburn precedent....

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Is this the first time she has been able to present her whole case in court?

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Now into the long form ...

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Keep in mind, the level of 'proofs' here are not 'beyond reasonable doubt.' Orly's only goal here is to paint a broad picture of alleged impropriety. This judge only has jurisdiction to rule upon Obama's ballot eligibility. Whether Obama has committed crimes or not is irrelevant; what is being presented does however go to show whether impropriety is 'likely'.

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wow, Orly is gonna lose this for all, she is like tin posted in a ticker...

the ss# etc has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand....
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No, it is both relevant and admissible as it goes to credibility of his assertion of the authenticity of his documents.

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Cerich - it does have bearing on her Complaint. Her plaintiffs' complaint is substantially different than the other two. She's desperately trying to get SOME of this information into official court records. And yes, this is the first time she has been able to present her case ON THE MERITS and have it written into permanent public record. While, as usual, not being very well done, it's important.

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the ss# etc has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand....

Exactly...there are valid points being made, but it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Obama is not a natural born citizen. It's almost like they're intentionally trying to muddy the waters...

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After this is over, can a court rule that this judge has no jurisdiction in this case?

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The woman needs about 4 or 5 extremely experienced paralegals and she wouldn't look so ridiculously unorganized and naive regarding court rules.

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*No bearing on the evidence itself, which I think is actually quite well done.

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the ss# etc has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand....


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If her "proving to credibility" was based upon absolutely proven and settled as true in another court I could see it. right now they will come across like allegations of tinfoil.

Pika, you could be right however.
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After this is over, can a court rule that this judge has no jurisdiction in this case?
In Orly's case, it depends upon the relief she is seeking. If she's asking for ANYTHING other than Obama being taken off the GA ballot, I guarantee the judge WILL rule he has no jurisdiction over that.

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