Oh Hoh Hoh -- Standing ESTABLISHED
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Posted 2012-01-04 16:07
by Karl Denninger
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Oh Hoh Hoh -- Standing ESTABLISHED
 

Well look what we have here....

On December 15, 2011, Defendant, President Barack Obama, moved for dismissal of Plaintiffs' challenge to his qualifications for office. The Court has jurisdiction to hear this contested case pursuant to Chapter 13 of Title 50, the "Georgia Administrative Procedure Act."

For the reasons indicated below, Defendant's Motion to Dismiss is DENIED.

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Accordingly, this Court finds that Defendant is a candidate for federal office who has been certified by the state executive committee of a political party, and therefore must, under Code Section 21-2-5, meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.

Ok, here we go.

The charges and specifications are two-fold:

  • Is Obama's "birth certificate" valid?  Quite simply now we get discovery, where the original microfilm and bound book pages can be inspected (and they better be there, and in order.  I will note that it is extremely difficult to tamper with microfilm without being detected!)

  • What's the story on the Social Security Number?  Oh that could be a problem eh?

Maybe there's nothing to all this, and maybe there is.  But thus far Obama has managed to deflect attention from the facts with procedural maneuvers (and one has to ask why when it would be simpler -- and rather more final, to dispose of the facts instead.)

Unfortunately the run for re-election rendered the question both timely and impossible to moot, at least in the view of Georgia.  Expect more actions similar to this to be filed (if they haven't been already) and now we have at least one State Court that is going to look at the issue.

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Asimov
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Good to hear!

(Might want to put "hard" after "note it is extremely".)

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What's the Social Security Number issue?

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Too late. He's already God our Dear Leader. The proletariat has embraced His benevolent leadership, and mere mortals such as judges shall not commit lèse-majesté against Him!

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It is about time.

BUT

I can only guess at what type of phone calls or visits it would take to sway the 'facts' in a case such as this ??

Damn a government that makes me think of such things ! !
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What Quick said +1

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Someone started a thread in the Bar a couple of days ago regarding "Black Swan" events.

I thought this puppy was dead. Guess not!

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If this moves forward there will be a series of accidents as there were in Clinton's years.

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Oh brother....


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How the hell is ANYBODY or ANYTHING going to win this argument after the posting of the forged document did absolutely nothing? We should all just get used to serving our masters.....or fall to some "accident"

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David Welden is the plantiff. Google "David Welden picture" and one of the first pictures which pops up is the following. It's Mr. Welden's Facebook picture ...

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OK, TF'ers ... whose avatar is that?

And ... here's the Judge ...

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https://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/....

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As KD said, "O" could have easily put an end to this a long time ago--but he can't.

Going to get interesting...

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Nice timing. More fodder for a repuke win. Fingers crossed for RP, that would throw a wrench.

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^ This avatar is Lunatic Fringe's. Kitty no like his helmet.

Imagine if the dems have to run someone other than O. He sure doesn't deserve re-election.

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I hope this does go somewhere. However, I never understood why people weren't approaching this from the other side... "natural born citizen"? His father was not a US citizen which automatically disqualifies him from being POTUS. Same goes for Marco Rubio.

I guess we take what we can get. Isn't there also a law now in AZ that says all candidates must show the original long form bc before they can be on the ballot?
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Do VPs need to be "natural born citizens?" Didn't someone start a thread somewhere regarding an Obama/Clinton ticket?

"They" are great chess players ... always many steps ahead of you.

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for a good wtf, read Obama’s Motion to Dismiss. they argue that the democratic party has a right of association therefore they can put anyone up for candidate for potus they want...the rest of the constitution doesn't mattet

that's the best they can do .. err umm... ok

so much time and $ wasted when all he has to do is make a phone call, or mail a letter to hawaii authoring the release of the microfilm.

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Oh boy.

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Quote:
I hope this does go somewhere. However, I never understood why people weren't approaching this from the other side... "natural born citizen"? His father was not a US citizen which automatically disqualifies him from being POTUS. Same goes for Marco Rubio.

That's the side they're taking...in fact, in the opposition to the motion to dismiss, they clearly state that his "citizenship" or social security number is not in question, but the "natural born citizen" part is.

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The matter before this Court has nothing to do with the birth place of the Defendant, nor
does it assert that he is not a citizen of the United States. In fact, limited to this challenged
primary election, the Plaintiff will stipulate that the Defendant was born in Hawaii, that the
Defendant is a U.S. Citizen, and that the Defendant was Constitutionally-qualified to serve as a
U.S. Senator. The Plaintiff makes no assertion regarding the Defendant’s passports, or social
security number, or any other fact related to the Defendant, other than the one fact asserted at the
beginning of this opposition: that the Defendant’s father was not a U.S. citizen

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I shed tears of blood for our dear leader. Or maybe that our new leader will be the Hillabeast!!!! :-Þ

Oh to kick that high spending squatter family out of the WH. Maybe the people would run them out of the country too
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i have a 6 month old bet with my socialist stepson that Hillary will oppose Romney .

it's only way dems can look more centrist

watch convention - "Here i come to save the day"

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Bwahqahhah

Now we are going to find out if we really are simply a larger, and later version of Argentina.

If this doesn't get resolved prior to the election - we are ****ing Argentina for sure.

Actually, I already think we are, I really just want there to be some hope for us.

Frankly, I've just about given up hope that the rule of law will mean anything.

Been a pretty sad state of affairs. Where it looks like laws only apply to the serfs.

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Mpilar , I guess I didn't read far enough into it. My bad. I could have sworn though that AZ did pass or try to pass a law that would require Obama to supply a legal copy of his long form.. altho that could be a moot point as well since we've seen the forged one.
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Twainfain, I'm not sure whatever happened to the AZ law, I remember that though. I don't think it matters that much though, since SCOTUS has already defined "natural born citizen" and Obama doesn't qualify based on Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167 (1875).

I'm happy to see this moving forward based on this instead of the forged birth certificate...I think this has a better chance of making an impact.

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Ok, so what happens when its found out Pres Obama is a fraud? Is everything he has done null and void?
I dread what the lawyers will think up if Pres Obama is found to be a fraud? This could cause serious peril to our country.
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