My God, It's Full Of Stars (Capital Formation)
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Posted 2011-12-30 08:29
by Karl Denninger
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My God, It's Full Of Stars (Capital Formation)
 

OK, now I'm getting a bit spooked -- Bloomberg ran this:

America has a terrible saving problem and a slumping economy. But our national mantra, underscored by last week’s payroll-tax cut, is spend, spend, spend.

Countries can’t spend their way to prosperity. This demand- side voodoo-economics approach is driving us further into hock. The right mantra should be save, save, save.

Hoh hoh hoh...

Back to fundamental truths, my friends:

  • Nobody ever lends anyone money at an intentional loss.

  • Due to the mathematical essence of exponents two compound functions will always run away from each other over time.

That's the beginning and end of it economically.  "Spend spend spend" can never work because capital formation requires saving and when you replace capital formation with debt you are guaranteed, in aggregate, to lose.

Noodle on those two basic principles above a bit and it will snap into focus: A lender of capital will always seek to charge more than the growth rate in the economy (otherwise he'd rather do something with the capital other than lend it to you) which means that when capital formation as the predicate for business formation and investment is replaced by debt -- what banks and the financial industry calls "credit" -- the spread guarantees that eventually the amount of debt will rise hyperbolically compared to output.

I know I've shown this chart dozens of times, but until we break this cycle we will never have actual economic prosperity.

That will always happen.

There's only one way to stop it -- don't do that.  Don't rely on "credit" for economic expansion.  Economically force expansion to be funded by economic surplus -- that is, capital formation.

People recoil in horror when I say "force", but in point of fact the government doesn't have to force anything.  The "force" in question are natural economic forces and they act all on their own if the government stops backstopping and subsidizing the use of debt instead of capital.

Fannie, Freddie, the rescue of AIG, Student Loans, Medicare/Medicaid, the bailout of GM and Chrysler, backstopping Citibank as many times as you have fingers in the last 30 years, refusal to instantly jail all the officers of MF Global when the missing segfunds were discovered and more -- all come down to one thing: Government's intentional distortion of the markets.

This should not surprise -- after all, if government was to use capital instead of debt it would have to tax more and spend less!  That is, the same "basic" principle applies at the government level.  It's not quite identical in that government doesn't produce (directly) and thus there is no "economic surplus" per-se, but in general it can either fund its programs with economic surplus (which it taxes from the people -- by definition economic surplus since if you can't pay and survive you cease to be a taxpayer) or it can replace economic surplus with debt.

The cessation of these policies beings with government.

We either do it now or we'll do it the hard way.  Both paths suck -- we're only choosing which sucks less, and the longer we wait to do the right thing the worse it's going to be.

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Firefly76
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Yet the sheep say ".....Ba ba ba but but but the free market doesn't work."

How is it so clear but the majority of people don't see or notice it?
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heh

They are slowly starting to get the picture!

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Yikes, between this and the recent Newsweek editorial (article?), I have to believe that .gov is getting the sheople ready for a fleecing in 2012. This stuff could not have been printed without the approval of the TPTB IMHO - all MSM.

Maybe the big boys know the game will soon be over and what is coming will not be pleasant for the 99.9%? Maybe sooner than we expect?

Also, with all the swap lines the Fed is passing out like Halloween candy, when do we reach the point of implosion (like most things in nature, organisms will grow so large as they eventually implode upon themselves)?

I don't have any answers, just a lot of questions.

BTW and OT, did anyone notice that the Orlando theme parks were slammed over the holiday? Do you think that the folks know the game is almost over and they wanted one last special family experience to remember (with the kids) before the wheels fall off? I find it hard to believe that all the folks at the parks believe happy days are here again - so spend, spend, spend.

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Governments giving up the rights of the people as they line their pockets with

monies from corperate and BANKS.The MEDIA owned by corperate and Banks don't

tell the TRUTH to the StUPIDS and so more rights are taken EVERY day.EAT IT

STUPIDS in euro.spain,****ly,greece,irish. THE CORPERATE AND BANKS CREATED

THIS MESS ON PURPOSE TO TAKE CONTROL>>>>GET IT STUPIDS !!!!

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Gen wrote..
Due to the mathematical essence of exponents two compound functions will always run away from each other over time.


“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.” -Bartlett, Professor of Physics at the University of Colorado

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Quote:
Back to fundamental truths, my friends:

Nobody ever lends anyone money at an intentional loss.

Due to the mathematical essence of exponents two compound functions will always run away from each other over time.


And...
In the real world, exponential growth encounters hard limits.


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Brace yourself. We're nearly "there".

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"...But people better realize that the worst-case scenario could actually happen.9/11 happened. This can happen. An economic 9/11, the likes of which we've never seen." Gerald Celente
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Swing,
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They are slowly starting to get the picture!

Problem is, that 'slowly' is the operative word. By the time "they" - GET IT, it will be too late.

In fact, in my opinion, when the "too late" hits, that is when "they" will actually truly get it....

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Its no coincidence that in university finance courses students have it hammered into them that debt financing is cheaper than equity.

Once you leave that brainwashing system and enter the real world its quite obvious what the purpose of such "education" is (if you have your eyes open).
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Lenguado wrote:
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Problem is, that 'slowly' is the operative word. By the time "they" - GET IT, it will be too late.

In fact, in my opinion, when the "too late" hits, that is when "they" will actually truly get it....


I think you are right. I don't think they will ever see the truck/train coming at us all until we have already been run down.

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Every night an education here on the forum for which I am grateful. Just wish that the .gov would get out of the way, I sense an opportunity coming when they do.

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It may be time to plug The Bubble That Broke the World again by Richard Richards. You can download it on the mises.org site. I think all this really gets started when the circular refinance and vendor financing of international debts continues for any degee of time. Financing war debt and trade debt almost always is followed by a depression.

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It seems we went through this same thought exercise in a prior thread.

BUT - in light of this well thought out ticker --

Someone will have to tell me how .Gov is not responsible for this mess
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Mann, I can find "The Bubble That Broke the World" by Garet Garrett on the mises.org site but none by Richard Richards. ???

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Typo alert:

The cessation of these policies beings with government.

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Lenguado said "Problem is, that 'slowly' is the operative word. By the time "they" - GET IT, it will be too late.
In fact, in my opinion, when the "too late" hits, that is when "they" will actually truly get it...."

and Captain Kidd said "I think you are right. I don't think they will ever see the truck/train coming at us all until we have already been run down."


So true with my family and friends...It's stay the course, everything always works out, nothing to worry about. They tell me there are regulations that prevent a depression, and the government always does things in our best interest. Their portfolios are managed by professional finance planners because they have other priorities. I used to send them tickers, articles and various charts, but they are too busy to read them. They are so clueless.
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Bluebird, I can relate. My family and friends don't get it either. smiley
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