Where Are The Handcuffs (Hank Paulson)
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Posted 2011-11-29 08:21
by Karl Denninger
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Where Are The Handcuffs (Hank Paulson)
 

Oh, so there was inside information passed around?

On the morning of July 21, before the Eton Park meeting, Paulson had spoken to New York Times reporters and editors, according to his Treasury Department schedule. A Times article the next day said the Federal Reserve and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency were inspecting Fannie and Freddie’s books and cited Paulson as saying he expected their examination would give a signal of confidence to the markets.

This is the narrative we heard on CNBC and elsewhere.

There's one problem: It was a lie.

At the Eton Park meeting, he sent a different message, according to a fund manager who attended. Over sandwiches and pasta salad, he delivered that information to a group of men capable of profiting from any disclosure.

Around the conference room table were a dozen or so hedge- fund managers and other Wall Street executives -- at least five of them alumni of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), of which Paulson was chief executive officer and chairman from 1999 to 2006. In addition to Eton Park founder Eric Mindich, they included such boldface names as Lone Pine Capital LLC founder Stephen Mandel, Dinakar Singh of TPG-Axon Capital Management LP and Daniel Och of Och-Ziff Capital Management Group LLC.

After a perfunctory discussion of the market turmoil, the fund manager says, the discussion turned to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Paulson said he had erred by not punishing Bear Stearns shareholders more severely. The secretary, then 62, went on to describe a possible scenario for placing Fannie and Freddie into “conservatorship” -- a government seizure designed to allow the firms to continue operations despite heavy losses in the mortgage markets.

In other words all equity would be wiped out, as would preferred stock.

Did Paulson break any laws by disclosing his intentions on a preferential basis?  That's a bit more murky.  At first blush the answer would appear to be "no"; he had no duty to file an 8K since he wasn't an officer of Fannie or Freddie, and it would appear that Reg-FD wouldn't apply to him either.

The better question is whether he was a public fiduciary at the time, in which case disclosing inside information in such a preferential fashion would be a breach.

There's no way to know if the hedgies involved in the lunch traded on what they learned.  The Bloomberg story says that at least one of them called his lawyer who told him to stop trading in any such securities as that was material non-public inside information (duh!) but whether they and the rest did so is an open question. 

Both Bill Black and Janet Tavakoli went on the record for Bloomberg:

“You just never ever do that as a government regulator -- transmit nonpublic market information to market participants,” says Black, who’s a former general counsel at the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco. “There were no legitimate reasons for those disclosures.”

Janet Tavakoli, founder of Chicago-based financial consulting firm Tavakoli Structured Finance Inc., says the meeting fits a pattern.

“What is this but crony capitalism?” she asks. “Most people have had their fill of it.”

Let's just call this what it really is: Theft.

Remember, all after-IPO trades of a stock or after-issue trades of some other security are at someone else's profit or expense.  That is, if you win someone else either loses directly or they lose opportunity -- that is, they sell you their shares, you buy them, they don't make the money and you do.  Likewise, if you buy something and it goes down in price, you take the loss they otherwise would have.  And if you short something you've borrowed the shares from somebody and the person who you short them to swallows the loss while you gain.

Therefore what we really have to ask here is whether any shareholder of the common or preferred stock has a valid fraud claim against the Government and Paulson personally.  After all, his public statements, which if this story is accurate were intentional lies, resulted in a near-doubling of Fannie's stock over the space of four days.

Isn't it nice when the government steals your money?

Oh, and why do we sit for this crap again?

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Gillianx
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More proof that nothing will change in America. These criminals are in Paulson's case now "a distinguished senior fellow at the University of Chicago, where he's starting the Paulson Institute" and in other cases - like Corzine - the next potential Treasury Secretary. The only fight Americans' have in them is for the TV remote control.
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But he CRIED.
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If I remember rightly didn't he negotiate immunity from prosecution before all the TARP stuff?

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He tried and failed.

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"Paulson said he had erred by not punishing Bear Stearns shareholders more severely."

since when do shareholders deserve to be "punished?" Are we committing the fraud and lies ? My family's small business profit sharing plan had an account at Bear. The rep bought us some BSC stock. Did our pharmacists and techs deserve to be punished with loss of retirement funds?
These pigmen deserve a damn plague like in the Old Testament when YHWH smote the firstborn of the Egyptians. Except I want the pigmen themselves to suffer and not enjoy a further penny of their stolen spoils.

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Handcuffs? Nah!

This would far be more appropriate -

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So, clearly (well maybe not legally) inside information was communicated.

I realize what I am about to posit is rife with grey (or is that gray) and murky, but if those seated around the table acted on this information then did they or did the not break any laws?

Again - I realize that is not going to matter in terms of civil or criminal indictment/prosecution, but I have to ask.

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And again I want someone to explain to me how using the Electoral Process ("..in the World's biggest Democracy..") is an anti-dote to this outright fraudulent, criminal behavior across an entire Financial Class.

I'll be waiting.
(You do know this is endemic, deep and culturally engrained, right?)

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Hahaa.... Daddy Paulson, with his ill gotten gains, bought himself a piece of an island off of Georgia and a couple Portland-based professional sports teams for his son, Merritt. It's good to be on the inside.

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"There's no way to know if the hedgies involved in the lunch traded on what they learned."

and there never is........sigh.....they traded on it I would guess.

“What is this but crony capitalism?” she asks. “Most people have had their fill of it.”

Janet Tavakoli makes the understatement of the new century here!

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We are right back where we came from with a ruling class that really only cares about itself and doesn't give a damn about the citizens. I can't see how this will change without violence. These rulers won't change anything any more than the 17th century rulers changed.

A vote for None of the Above would be better than any of the party affiliated candidates. At least then we would have shoved chaos right into their faces. Their legitimacy would be thrown out the window and as with the tide going out before the big wave in a tsunami, you would see who was really swimming naked.

Otherwise it appears a long slow painful road to serfdom leading to regional wars and martial law.
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Bubbles - I'm noticing a common theme running through all of your posts lately... smiley

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Steph - that's because I believe it will ultimately have to go there. History says so.....
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If End_the Bubbles is right, this will no longer be a place I want to live.

P.S. the images are getting very old.
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Hang these ****ers.

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P.S. the images are getting very old.


Tough ****! Just block me! I wasn't even posting most of the year until recently.

What's really "getting old" is the all the ****ing BULL**** we have to deal with, not some pictures you are tired of.....

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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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End, do you want to live here if this actually happened?

Think it through.
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Why is the custodian of the US Taxpayer revenues meeting with private hedge fund managers in the first place?

Once again however, the problem is that no one in the public and especially no one in power cares. The public is generally clueless and often glaze over when you mention such topics. The powers that be condone and support this type of behavior because they benefit. Geithner, as Head of NY Fed, in 2003 set up a new staff position to coordinate private meetings with hedge fund managers and other Wall Street power brokers. And how was he rewarded? He got the Treasury job. Obama certainly benefited from Wall Street's largess.

Does anyone care?

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Wis/Min - Why is getting rid of the putrid mother****ing lowlife destructive scum of the earth a bad thing? It will make the world MORE livable.....

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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Wis/Min - Why is getting rid of the putrid mother****ing lowlife destructive scum of the earth a bad thing
It's not.

But anarchy is the least desirable method. No thanks.
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One of the biggest issues with this stuff boils down to judicial standing. The SEC, the federal Attorney General, and some of the states' Attorney Generals have standing with which to bring claims of fraud etc. against these institutions.

In nearly all cases, these entities are thoroughly corrupt, bought, or staffed by past/future employees of the industries they are intended to control.

People like Karl, Bill Still, Bill Black, and others could easily build very damning cases against them but are barred from doing so because they lack the standing to bring these claims.

Ergo, what really makes this particular story most intriguing is the potential for fraud claims to be brought personally. If true, it would open the door (in at least this one case vs. Paulson) for actual prosecution of a fraud claim - since people outside the worthless regulatory apparatus would have standing to bring them. It's completely apparent that nobody within the system is interested in policing the system, but with this type of screw up perhaps we can topple one key piece.

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The problem with going after Paulson in this case is that sovereign immunity applies quite broadly.

You'd have to make the case that his action was outside the boundaries of his lawful authority as Treasury Secretary.

If you get through that barrier then it's "game on" and he's very wealthy so there's a LOT to go after. In other words, it's definitely worth it if you can make the allegation stick.

So whether such a private cause of action exists turns entirely on that singular fact -- was he or was he not acting within his lawful authority as Treasury Secretary?

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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It makes me sick! THEY are all crooks...
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