Well, We Know Who The Felons Are - They Wear Badges
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Posted 2011-10-26 08:17
by Karl Denninger
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Well, We Know Who The Felons Are - They Wear Badges
 

After four years of reporting on the various immoral, unethical and in many cases criminal acts perpetrated by people in our financial system and Congress, we now have our evidence at the bar.

This man was gassed for waving a flag.  He was not alone.

Last night "OccupyOakland" was literally laid siege by the police.  Firing rubber bullets and tear gas into a peaceful gathering, they committed hundreds of cases of felonious assault upon peaceful individuals.  I'll lay odds that not one of the felons-in-blue will be indicted, prosecuted and imprisoned for their crimes.

I remind everyone that our Constitution guarantees you the right of free speech including the right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

This does not, of course, include the right to riot, destroy property and commit assaults and batteries.

Well, unless you're the cops.  Then it appears that you have the right to do all of those things, irrespective of the fact that the people were exercising their lawful First Amendment rights - and nothing more.

The police didn't stop with tear gas.  They also detonated explosives within the crowd - an act that, taken by an ordinary person, would constitute the use of a bomb and be considered terrorism.

Yeah, I know, they call them "flash-bangs"; intended to stun and surprise.  Let's call them what they are: They're explosives, otherwise known as a bomb, and legally known to the BATFE as a "Destructive Device" as they contain more than the lawful limit of powder for a common firecracker. They can (and do) cause personal injury when fired into a crowd.  That injury is reasonably foreseeable when the device is delivered.  This makes the act an intentional deployment of a destructive device with the intent to harm a person - a serious felony.

Of course such felonies are not prosecuted when the police commit them.  Just like the apparent felony murder committed in Chicago by a Gang-Banger in Blue who fatally shot an unarmed man in the back after he had already been shot four other times and was lying prone on the grass.

This man, it appears, was executed in a scene reminiscent of the various murderous thugdoms that have been all-to-common throughout history.  Now we have summary justice-by-gang here, and the gang is wearing blue uniforms and badges!

Police have a tough job, but that's not an excuse for felonious behavior.  The job of the police is to Protect and ServeLately, it appears they serve themselves, including smuggling guns, slot machines and stolen cigarettes, shooting anyone who might happen to be a nuisance to their "right" to tromp on the people's necks whenever they so choose.

I've long asked the following question: What happens when the people determine that law enforcement agencies - or the government in general - are felons

This is no longer a rhetorical question, and the answer should give all law-abiding citizens pause.

I don't care if you hail from the left or right, or what your particular view of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement is.  The fact of the matter is that we no longer have the foundational principle of this nation underlying our nation: The Rule of Law.

That's the difference between a Constitutional Republic and tyranny.

In a Constitutional Republic you do not have the rule of 100 jackbooted thugs wearing badges, discharging firearms (albeit - thus far - with rubber bullets) at people, tossing bombs into their midst and gassing them.  You also don't have jackbooted thugs in blue shooting unarmed people in the back.  Any rogue individual who attempts such a stunt goes straight to prison to rot along with the common mugger or murderer, because he or she is one and should an entire agency show up to commit these acts the immediate response is that the National Guard rises and arrests the entire agency, tossing all of them into the clink where they belong.

Today, however, this sort of abusive crap is exactly what we have in this nation and The Guard, who has sworn an oath to protect this land against all enemies, foreign and domestic, is nowhere to be found. 

Those in California (along with those in both New York and Chicago) are discovering the hazards of their failure to demand that entire Constitution be strictly enforced in favor of the rights of the people

Now you see the consequences of that failure America.  You thought you were trading "a bit" of freedom for alleged security.  What you were really doing is ceding your rights to a band of gang-banging felons-in-blue who have now demonstrated their clear intent to gas, bomb and even murder you.

Have you discerned the error of your ways yet?

We shall see.

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Drjerry
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As Karl said in an earlier post: "Where are the handcuffs?"
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I am betting the Oakland folks had just as many permits as the NYC folks did.

I know the next line out of your mouth, "Show me where in the constitution where it says you need a permit..."

I counter that with, show me where a permit request was turned down to a group, especially with "peaceful and lawful" means of protest.

Im growing tired of the sideline cheering for folks that are openly cheering for the destruction of America, praising communism/mao/stalin/marx- and then having the same cheer leaders ridicule those who point out the communist as the organizers of these events. Its in plain site.

Some choose to ignore the facts, in plain site. I think someone once said something about this...

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There are several videos around the internet now that show the tear gas and flash grenades going off. I'm sure there will be tons more coming out, as it seems like many of the protesters were filming live on their cell phones. WTF are the Oakland city officials thinking doing this?

Has the fuse been lit? It sure seems like this could be the "Kent State moment" a lot of people have been waiting for.

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The handcuffs are with the "gang-bangers-in-blue," exactly where they've always been. I'll steal a quote from Rush Limbaugh and say that the world has always been and will always be governed by the aggressive use of force. It's no different now than at any point in human history, really. There's only one thing these stormtroopers will retreat from and we all know what that is.
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I'll just leave this here.

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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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TPTB are going to be in shock when they face their Romanov moment.

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The Republic has failed. Time is UP!!!!

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But this is a peaceful crowd... nevermind what they did at 6pm that same day...



Look at them bust through police lines..
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I'm sure if any protester threw just a firecracker at the police, they'd be hauled off and thrown into jail on who-knows-what charges. If they weren't shot first that is. They might even end up at Guantanamo, never to be heard from again. Sad what we've become, and it's only just beginning.

The glimmer of hope is, they can't build jails fast enough to hold 300M protesters.
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Oscar Grant was shot in the back by these thugs. Oscar didn't have a permit either. The officer was in jail for two years but is now out on parole.
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I counter that with, show me where a permit request was turned down to a group, especially with "peaceful and lawful" means of protest.

Really...you don't need a permit to protest according to the constitution, and this is your response?? Wow.

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Look at them bust through police lines..

I don't even need to comment this...

Anybody that begs the government for permission gets exactly what they deserve.

This police bull**** has gotten completely out of hand (and MUST BE DEALT WITH!)...having spent a few of my young years in an actual police state, I can tell you from my personal experience, and that of my parents who spent quite a bit of time there...that there is very little difference to the communist eastern block European countries and the USA anymore.

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Nobody in the common mass of the public is going to get very excited until they open up with live rounds and kill somebody. I don't think it will take long now though.
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You spend 20 years militarizing the police, and this is what you get.

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So your rights to protest trump my rights to use public streets? Did you see them surround the cars and block traffic?

Permits are necessary evil to keep everyday life and protesting separated to where both can function.

Yes, I know your point about asking for permission. But how about getting the permits and then seeing what the police do after that?

OWS has 500,000 dollars in their account- yet no one wants to fill out a permit? ****in A guys... play the game and then start filming when they bust your heads open.
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So your rights to protest trump my rights to use public streets?


Where is the right to use public streets enumerated in the Constitution?

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Did you see them surround the cars and block traffic?

Yeah, one has to wonder what they would have done if they weren't being antagonized by the thieves and murderers in blue though...

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Hope these police incidents enrage more people. I knew a high ranking cop that would pretty much tell people to sit at another table because he liked the table people were sitting at during Boy Scout meetings. So people would get up and move somewhere else. There are a few that know they can abuse their authority.

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mpilar- police were antagonizing the protestors? Put the dope down.

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Mango- "Has the fuse been lit? It sure seems like this could be the "Kent State moment" a lot of people have been waiting for."

Watching on Fox News this morning, thinking the EXACT same thing...

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Remember what happened to the innocent bystanders last time big riots broke out in that area?.... the last several times?

All hell breaks lose.
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police were antagonizing the protestors? Put the dope down.

Yes...their presence and more specifically show of force is a type of antagonism.

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Interesting point about travel rights....Here's some info on that..

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As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, 98-97 (1999), the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel (except for members of Congress, who are guaranteed the right to travel to and from Congress). The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969), Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.



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Mikeit said:
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Im growing tired of the sideline cheering for folks that are openly cheering for the destruction of America.


This is an excellent observation Mikeit. You don't want to see your America destroyed, which is why you feel the way you feel.

My America has already been destroyed, which is why I feel the way I do and am in total sympathy and support of OWS.

They will come for your America, your home, your job, and your rights, next.

Those who care little about those americans whose lives have already been destroyed are the problem.

Which are you?


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How was your america destroyed?
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