Does Someone Know Something (Again)?
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Posted 2011-08-22 11:37
by Karl Denninger
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Does Someone Know Something (Again)?
 

If this turns out to be prescient - that is, if it turns out that this is insider trading on material non-public information and Bank of America collapses - it is time for every American to cease working and go sit in Washington DC on the Mall - and refuse to leave until the FOMC, Treasury and our President resign, stand trial for public corruption and are punished in accordance with law.

The market says that this firm has a "book value" of one third of the claimed value on it's balance sheet.  If this is true then the bank is bankrupt several times over.

That is, it's alleged "Tier 1 Capital" has been exhausted not once, not twice, but many times over.

Either the market is correct or it is wrong.  The stock is either trading at 0.34 times book because the assets on the books are worth far less than their claimed amount (when offset against liabilities) or because the collective "wisdom" of the market is flat-out wrong.

If the former is true then every corporate officer has lied through their teeth serially and wantonly when signing their quarterly reports, and under Sarbanes-Oxley has committed a federal felony for which they must be imprisoned.

There is really no other way to see this, in point of fact.  Either the firm has honestly reported its financial condition or it has not.  If it has, then this "valuation" is ridiculous beyond words, and you'd be nuts not to buy the stock with both fists, since you stand to profit for the tune of three hundred percent.

But if the firm has lied, repeatedly and serially, then it is bankrupt many times over.

Our system of laws is supposed to prevent the latter from happening.  Yet it has not.  It did not with Bear Stearns, it did not with Lehman, and it has not with the myriad other public banks that went under over the last few years, including some for which we now have asset values.

Colonial Bank, for example, which when acquired from the smoking ashes was shown to have claimed values some forty percent higher than reality. 

In fact it is rare that one can find an FDIC-seized institution or one in which an "assisted" transaction took place where asset values were not radically overstated.

Since the advent of Sarbanes-Oxley this is no longer a matter for civil litigation - it is a matter for felony criminal prosecution.

Our stock market is collapsing precisely because nobody believes the valuations reported by these institutions.  There is zero credibility precisely because there have been no prosecutions under Sarbox from the latest debacle.  Firm after firm has gone down with radically bogus asset valuations and in fact Kanjorski made such the law and regulation when he effectively forced FASB to permit "mark to make-believe" in the spring of 2009.

So now we're back to where we were in the spring of 2008.  Bank of America has its stock price under attack for the simple reason that nobody believes the bank's asset valuations. 

The market believes the bank is underwater to the tune of several times its reserves and is factually bankrupt.  Right or wrong, that's what the stock price, options activity ($2.50 January 2012 PUTs being traded in volume!) and credit-default swaps say.

Confidence in our markets and financial institutions cannot return until these FICTIONS are flushed out of the system.  This means that financial institutions must prove their asset valuations and those who lie about them must be prosecuted - in each and every case.  If this is not done, and done soon, firms will come under similar speculative attack one-by-one exactly as occurred in 2008, and this time there is neither political will or financial ability to rescue them.

That's what the stock price is telling you today folks and it is also why the early rally in the market has collapsed with a more than 2% move in the S&P 500 in the last two hours.

The question is this: Is the market right - or wrong, and is anyone in Washington DC and at The Fed listening?

Incidentally, on the premise the market is right if this continues without a clean explanation, Tickercon will go to "1" within days - if not hours, as if BAC blows it will be Tickercon "Boom", not "1".

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The market is right and they are just watching in DC and at the FED because they do not know what else to do! They do not have enough bullets in the gun this time.

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Obama:    Corrupt bankster puppet.
Geithner: Corrupt bankster puppet.
Bernanke: Corrupt bankster puppet.
CONgress: Corrupt bankster puppets.
Good night and good luck...

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It would be interesting to see what IBs have opened short positions on BAC where they would be in the know as it regards the (lack of) posted collateral for an interbank loan, as was the case with Bear.

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The day is coming when a mob action lynching of these corrupt banksters and their .gov puppets will be widely acknowledged as "taking the moral high ground."

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They will not admit they're wrong.

They will not take prudent action to clear the system.

They'll take it all the way to the wall.

There's your bank.





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Oh it's not just Bear. Lehman, if you read the Valukis report, was KNOWN to be bankrupt by virtually everyone on the Street for more than a month before it blew up. Citibank refused a collateral request for a Repo a month in advance - so they had FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE the company had no working capital and no good assets to pledge for it.

That's not a guess on Citi's part, it's a FACT, and since that was a Triparty repo The NY Fed knew as well.

I believe the same thing is going on right now and again we're not being told. There is no other explanation for what you're seeing in the stock price today. There is NO news on the wire related to the company that in any way supports that move.

Someone knows something and it's NOT good.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Although I shouldn't be saying this, but I hope the whole thing crashes sometime later next year. I'm just coming out of college and on the verge of landing a job that will be key to my future career.

Yeah...
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It's happening RIGHT NOW.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Time to die BAC! Time to die! MWAHAHAHAHAHA

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Just be a good little American and buy Bank of America stock - support America and all the regulatory capture it stands for - pharmaceuticals, agriculture, banking, energy, water, etc.

Was there ever any honesty in our governmental institutions? Or has the dishonesty just gotten so large that they can't hide it anymore? I like to think that there used to be just a few bad apples, but now it seems that everyone is doing it - perhaps it was always that way?

I remember not that long ago watching BofA making new highs each week - I guess the Ponzi scheme is almost over. No wait - BofA is going to have a new stock offering and "recapitalize" so they can continue charging high interest rates to all Americans. Phew, I was worried for a minute that a banker might go hungry!
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Is Buffet buying? I hope so.

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I KNOW. I'm conflicted. I've made a bet with my education and I'm on the verge of having it pay off big time.
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Time to buy a megaphone and sit in the Bank of America parking lot laughing at the scum bags.
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How long before BAC gets the boot from the Dow Jones 30?
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How long before BAC goes "no bid"?

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Doesn't mark to model give the execs a legal fudge?
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It will be too late later, but right now you can see the same action on JPM, which fell from $35.18 near the open to $33.54 and now trading at $33.62. WFC from $24.12 to $23.18.

Then look at C, the corpse that has been walking the earth for 30 years now. Opened at $27.84 and fell to $26.45. Remember this is really $2.65, as they reverse split this stock 1 for 10.

Then we have Lord Blankfein and company (GS). Opened on the up at $114.49 and fell to $111.11 (5 aces, what a hand) Mr. Buffet got a nice pile of call options at $115. Seems he is pleading with Bennie to make these a winner, as the real news was Bernanke was going to do something. Jumping off a building with no bungie would be a good place to start.

Then we have MS, which is really in the monkey ****ter. If opened at $16.54 and fell to $15.80, which is a 52 week low. In fact, it is the lowest print since the week of March 9, 2009.

There appears to be some manipulation of the banks, probably by the bankers themselves. What do they know? Most likely what Karl and others have been saying here, that they are all broke. There is used toilet paper piling up in Europe right now, because they are all broke. The asshats on CNBC are paraded out every day to talk about how solid our banks are. They are solid as a prison, as they hold more fraud artists than most of them (prisons) and CNBC has more gangsters on it than the untouchables.

The great secret is that the credit side won't support the debit side of the bank ledger any more. The ledger isn't only a list of what is owed a bank, but the list of what is available to pay them. They can't draw interest on one side of the equation and not pay it on the other side of the equation and expect the side that owes to ever catch up with the amount due on the assets. Plus, their debtors are broke, as the cash is owed to other parties. It is about time to draw out piles of $100's and $20's and let these thugs die on the vine. Let Bennie manage that one.

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Icanhasbailout wrote..
How long before BAC gets the boot from the Dow Jones 30?
Supposed to happen if a stock stays below $1.00 for a month. They aren't there yet. However, this rule has been broken with a number of stocks having rattled around in the DOW under $1.00.

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Is it too tinfoil to think that a big bank failure would make it easier for Bernanke to announce QE3 on Friday? I've always thought that BAC, being in NC and not NYC, would be the sacrificial lamb if one was needed.
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A big bank failure would temporarily solve the need for QE. When banks blow, it frees up cash.

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And what REALLY happens if BAC goes down? How low did Lehman go before it was official that they blew up?

Can BAC bring down the whole economy or the FED will always be there in time to save them?

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Thanks, Steph. Still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff and relearn SO much.
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I thought the domino that starts the fall of everything else would be a European bank or entity. Now, I'm not so sure.

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