Rick Perry: Where Do You Stand On Free Markets?
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Posted 2011-08-22 11:02
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Rick Perry: Where Do You Stand On Free Markets?
 

One has to wonder, considering this...

There's no date on that, but there is a contemporary Politico article from October 1st, essentially quoting it.

This is an important issue folks.  Remember, the current controversy related to the big Wall Street banks has to do with the mortgage mess.  This is the Obama Administration position:

“It is of concern to the industry that instead of trying to facilitate resolving these issues, you seem to be throwing a wrench into it.  Wall Street is our Main Street — love ’em or hate ’em. They are important and we have to make sure we are doing everything we can to support them unless they are doing something indefensible."

So what is indefensible?

Does it include fraudulent paperwork submitted to courts?  We have that.

Does it include fraudulent loans issued to people who the banks knew couldn't pay?  We had that.

Does it include allegedly "securitized" loans where there is legitimate question as to whether they were actually securitized (or were simply claimed to be, but never were)?  We appear to have had that.

Does it include intentionally blowing multiple credit bubbles, one after another, for 30 years, as I have repeatedly documented and which mathematically must lead to disaster?  We've certainly had that.

Exactly what is Rick Perry's position on Capitalism?

See, Capitalism requires that when you screw up you lose money.  It requires that when you really screw up you go out of business - that is, you go bankrupt.  It requires that banks (and others) not commit fraud, that they honestly report their earnings and balance sheets, and that they promote policies and practices that reward success - not prop up and support failure.

Those who prudently save and invest should earn money.  Borrowing should be nominally (compared to inflation and GDP) expensive - that is, you should pay to engage in it.  Distortions of the free market that steal trillions of dollars of wealth from honest Americans who try to do the right thing, such as occurred in the last few years with ZIRP that has literally stolen trillions from Senior Citizens simply trying to prudently save for their retirement, must be eschewed.

A "financial system" that is founded on fraud and theft must not be supported, it must be dismantled and allowed to fail, with the malefactors imprisoned.  Entrepreneurs will take the place of the failed businesses and put in place of them new non-fraudulent replacements.

But this isn't what our government has done.  Both political parties have supported failure and refused to support success.  They have bailed out fraudulent practices and are continuing to apply pressure on prosecutors and attorneys general to do so again and again - including to the present day.

We're supposed to be making a choice in an election, but I see no choices.  Are you seriously suggesting that I should choose between Fraud #1 and Fraud #2?

Mr. Perry, exactly what do you support when it comes to the economy?

You want to be President?  Tell me how you're different, when it comes to these clowns on Wall Street, than Obama - because I certainly don't, in the present case, see any difference at all.

If I'm going to get financially raped I will vote for the man who tells me he's going to do it.  Either way I get screwed, but only one of you is honest and thus gives me the opportunity to find a stick for my teeth first - and it does not appear to be you, Mr. Perry.

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Second from last paragraph: "Do you want to be Present?"

I believe you mean "President".

Outstanding call-out, btw.

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This is why you can't trust politicians! They are all snakes!!

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Harold Ford was on the Sunday talk shows repeating this new talking point: "Wall Street is Main Street."

Can you believe it! Of course, this could have omething to do with it: "In March 2007, Ford joined the financial services firm Merrill Lynch as a vice chairman and senior policy advisor."

What a scumbag.

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Perry is just another Stooge. Look at his Bio he used to work as Al Gore's campaign manager in Texas before he made the switch to the Republican party. He probably believes in AGW too. I guess he correctly deduced that Republican were taking over Texas politics.

This snake will say or do anything to get elected.

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Genesis wrote..
Tell me how you're different, when it comes to these clowns on Wall Street, than Obama
He ain't. They're all corrupt. A whole generation of scumbags.

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Ask Mr Perry what his net worth was upon becoming gov and today?

I am curious, is he now a millionaire and of course on that generous gov salary who wouldn't be?

I smell a Clinton of the "right" with this one.
I guess with the Bush clan hatred he has that going for him.

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Genesis wrote..
If I'm going to get financially raped I will vote for the man who tells me he's going to do it. Either way I get screwed, but only one of you is honest and thus gives me the opportunity to find a stick for my teeth first - and it does not appear to be you, Mr. Perry.


Wait a second. Gen, are you saying you may vote for Obama again?

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A politician like Mr. Perry is exactly why we're in this predicament.

Thanks, No.

Thank YOU KD for uncovering this stuff!

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I hope they keep saying 'wall street is main street'.

Nothing will alert joe sixpack more to the scam.

Do you hear me, pols? Keep it up!!!!

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this admin is what fascism looks like.

The stench of it is unbearable even perry can't be worse.

He MUST NOT WIN ANOTHER ELECTION, MUST NOT!

I have always thought it doesn't matter and normally it doesn't, but this time seems different.



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Quote:
If I'm going to get financially raped I will vote for the man who tells me he's going to do it.


Never really took you for an Obama/Reid/Pelossi supporter, Karl.


I would really like to hear who you think is the right candidate that's electable.

Please don't say Mitt Romney.
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So you're telling me I should support a man who wanted to force my kid to take a dangerous and worthless "vaccine" and ALSO was for not only bailing out the banks BUT IN ADDITION ALLOWING THEM TO CONTINUE TO LIE ABOUT THEIR ASSSETS?

You see BAC today? They're going to blow, and when they do the Republicans are FINISHED in 2012.

FINISHED.

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Eagle, Perry has done a lot of unpopular things in Texas because he thought it was the right thing to do, but he does know how to get elected.

As far as this letter, he was the Republican Chairman and the Manchin, the Democratic Chair. I am sure the political classes of both parties get together and blow each other and come to decisions they agree to present, whether they like it or not. Texas could probably use $50 billion for roads. Plus, they all want to get re-elected and bad economies are bad for incumbents

As for economics, Perry went to the same school I did. They teach the same banker backed nonsense starting with Samuelson they do everywhere else. Politician goes to college and whether he learns the crap or not, it is what he gets. He hires advisors and economists. They have taken the same voodoo economics the politician has.

In other news, I just finished an issue of The Elliott Wave Theorist. Debt actually grew at a faster pace in the 1970's than the 2000 on a percentage basis according to charts posted. Of course the economy grew faster, despite the recessions.

The question we have to ask is if a free market can even exist today? There will always be some Bernanke, Pelosi or frank or President that thinks they can run our business better than we can. Then we have the totalitarians like the current President, who cares little for the rule of law and that in its own right will destroy the free market and replace it with a black market.

It doesn't really matter who is President because we are going to vote the bastard out in 4 years. I think Karl's message is that these asshats are all clones wearing different disguises. I couldn't agree more. The more solution any of these guys offer, the more they **** our lives up. If we could just elect a mannequin and put him in the oval office, we mgiht get somewhere. No orders, no requests, no new changes, no new ways to screw us in favor of the bankers and political class. If we could just have 4 years of the government not ****ing us more and more, just level off, we might have a chance. If you change a tire and the new tire immediately goes flat, you can bet that was "Change You can Believe in". We got a mobster for President, a pure and simple idiot who cares nothing about the rule of law. We would have been better off with a mannequin.

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Exactly what is Rick Perry's position on Capitalism?

Perry along with his other slithering ilk support only one type of Capitalism: CRONY.
If a Pub is going to defeat Obama this election cycle, he needs to tap into and convert to independent voter.
Perry is so far away from doing this, I can't see how he's electable. He’s urinating in the ears of the right using the GGG mantra which has gotten him attention. Couple that with the weak and meager message from the remaining boobs and IMO we get four more years of the same.
My plan so far is to sit this one out. I am not voting against a candidate this time around.


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Obama is already defeated. He isn't going to fix this economy. Who the hell can believe we ever had a recovery? The only votes he gets are going to be from borderline communist and other morons. He won't carry 3 states, including those that vote for yellow dogs before they vote Republican. Our problem is that the Republicans are the historical party of the bankers, yet the bankers bankroll the Democrats, mainly because they love inflation even more than the Republicans. I probably won't even vote, unless someone that has even an eyelash of a chance of getting elected vows to change this crony capitalistic structure between bankers, politicians and the politically correct groups. Reality is going to replace Obama. How could over 2% of the Americans with a functioning brain vote for this guy. Unemployment will be nearing 20% by November next year.

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I don’t agree Mannfm11. He’ll get all of the Democratic votes and direct the billion plus on the independent voters. If we make it that long as a society, the RED team has the uphill battle.

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THIS >>> - "Look at his Bio he used to work as Al Gore's campaign manager in Texas before he made the switch to the Republican party." - should be in every primary campaign advertisement for every candidate going up against Perry.... Bush III

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Rick Perry is 100% pure politician; he has no "stand" because he has no principles. His position on any issue is what will gain him and his cronies more power. He is a lying, crooked snake in the grass. He has proven himself already. It is naive in the extreme to give him the benefit of the doubt now after he has proven who he is. Wake up.
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Gen,

If you're saying you're going to vote for the guy with two phony birth certificates, a suspicious social security #, who nominated Kagan & Sotomayor to the SCOTUS, whose AG argued against the 2nd amendment rights of THE PEOPLE and signed the law (Obamacare) that gave the federal government the power to force anyone to do anything it wants ...just because his opponent is equally guilty of excusing bank misconduct, well, I just don't get it. Even "vote for Beelzebub" would make a little more sense to me. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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I think Mannfm11 is overconfident about Obama's being finished. He seems to be assuming that the banksters will not pull another rabbit out of their hat and that people will be logical when casting their votes. Barry the Alien has had a solid 40%+ support level for a long time, *especially* among the very people whom he has helped put out of work.
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Gen wrote..
If I'm going to get financially raped I will vote for the man who tells me he's going to do it.
That would make it consensual.

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In defense of Barry the Alien, he didn't so much put them out of work as keep them out of work.
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Not really.

The Republicans will lose my vote exactly as they did in 08 if this **** doesn't stop. I'm more likely to write in Beelzebub or vote Libertarian (depending on who they run) than I am to vote for Obama however.

I will not vote for a Republican to keep Obama from having a second term. IF the Republicans believe they deserve the office they can run someone worthy of the vote.

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