You Want Growth And Jobs? Here's How
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Posted 2011-08-16 10:05
by Karl Denninger
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You Want Growth And Jobs? Here's How
 

We keep hearing about "growth" being the solution to everything, along with "jobs."

If you missed it, go listen to yesterday's Blogtalk podcast; it spends the entire half-hour on this issue.

I'm an entrepreneur.  I've done everything from carrying golf bags to washing cars to programming computers to selling PCs to small, medium and large businesses.  I've pulled cable in hot warehouses, wired office buildings and repaired computers.  MCS, as a company, existed twice - once as a small computer and networking concern which operated for a few years and then was closed voluntarily as there just wasn't enough business to make it work, and then again as an ISP - when it "hit big."  I've worked for myself and I've worked for others, including Fortune 50 companies, IPO startups and, lastly, I was the CEO of my own small tech company (MCSNet.)  I've known both failure and success, as have most entrepreneurs.

I've been an employee and I've created jobs - about three dozen of them at MCSNet, prior to its sale to Winstar Communications.  And I've worked more than my share of 26-hour - and occasional 40 hour - days.

Large-company CEOs and other executives of that sort live in a different world.  They may work "relatively" long hours, but it is relative.  They fly in a private jet and are coddled in expensive suites with private cars and limousines.  Entrepreneurs don't have that sort of money to blow, and our long hours are spent huddled over a desk, writing code, interpreting business data - or humping routers into racks in our ISPs.

Big company CEOs don't get phone calls at 3:00 AM when something goes wrong - they have someone else for that.  Entrepreneurs are the ones with the pager - we're the ones who get up at 3:00 AM and go down to the data center to fix something our night guys can't handle, or just because we think we should make sure it's all ok.  We're the ones who age at three times the rate of the line guy making his 40-hour wage and we're the ones who risk our health and wealth so that other guy can have a job.  We're the ones who don't get a vacation for five straight years.

Finally, when we screw up we lose it all.  When the big company CEO screws up, he gets a golden parachute and retires to write books, living out his life with his LearJet in Monaco.

If you want people like me to create jobs you have to stop threatening to steal my capital.  I have several ideas for new enterprises, but today I wouldn't even consider committing that capital to these ventures.  Not because I might be wrong and fail - that's always a risk, and one that entrepreneurs accept as inherent in the game - but because government wishes to reserve the right to steal my capital any time they wish with their unconstitutional and outrageous mandates and demands.

Let's be very clear about this: I have every right to dissipate my capital doing nothing more or less than enjoying it, and I will do exactly that before I allow the government to steal it and give it to someone who has done nothing to deserve it.

That, Mr. Leviathan, is a promise.

So if Leviathan wants jobs then "he" has to change.  I do not have to change.  I have the option of not changing and there's nothing that Leviathan can do about it.  I have the right and the ability to dissipate my capital faster than Leviathan can seize it.  I will do so.  I therefore have the absolute right to make demands, should Leviathan wish for me to do things that would create jobs.

Chief among them is that Leviathan must stop protecting and incentivizing those who use leverage in an abusive fashion to undermine entrepreneurship.  Chief among them are tax and trade policy.  Borrowing should never be a tax-deductible act and neither should offshoring production.  In addition, compelling me as an entrepreneur to provide health coverage to all employees irrespective of cost means that the abusive leverage employed by the medical industry, including restraint of trade across national boundaries that forces me to pay for the health developments that benefit everyone in the world, falls on my lap.

I happen to prefer The Fair Tax but I'm not married to it.  A three or four-tier flat tax with no deductions whatsoever is acceptable as well.  What's not acceptable is for my competitors to receive special dispensations where they can offshore production and shift "earnings" so as to pay an effective zero tax rate on their corporate earnings, while I am forced to pay 20% or more - and then get taxed again on distributions. 

There's much more, of course, but the short version of this is that Leviathan, if it wants me to be an entrepreneur with my capital, must stop treating me as a vampiric resource to be sucked dry.

I've been there and done it.  I turned $60,000 in capital and thousands of hours in sweat equity into a business that employed dozens and paid in millions in taxes over a five year period.  Those employees not only paid taxes of their own, they spent their earnings that came about as a consequence of their employment with my firm.  We all - employee and executive - contributed to the economy and we did it without complaint.  Leviathan could have stolen that $60,000, but that's all it would have received. 

By not being a bastard, however, Leviathan received millions in tax revenue instead of $60,000 - a multiple of nearly 100 times.

Which would Leviathan prefer?

I will endeavor to do this again, and once again generate huge amounts of tax revenue - and profits - but only when I know what the terms are, and only when Leviathan stops threatening me. 

What I will not do is have my capital stolen and handed to people who have done nothing to earn it, nothing to deserve it, and who didn't acquire it as a consequence of my voluntary act of charity.

That's not negotiable, and I'm quite sure I'm not alone.

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Bravo, bravo! I set up a corporation once, back when I was an ignorant kid, trying to do what you did with MCSnet. I got a cease-and-desist letter for not having workmen's comp - despite having no employees, only partners. After getting out of that legal morass I dissolved the whole thing. I didn't want to get into being required to provide something before having the cash-flow to provide it.

Paperwork (I hate paperwork) pretty much killed all my desire to be an entrepreneur who gives other people jobs, and that was the late 90's. I'll stick to being a sole proprietor/contractor.
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Karl, you said what I have felt for a long time. Only you said it better!

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WOW - WOW - WOW. You have articulated my long standing position precisely.

My entreprenurial experience has been strikingly similar, having built a large business that employed hundreds and paid literally millions in taxes, starting from a shoestring budget, risking everything I own, moving my family from rental to rental (after selling our home to raise capital), maxing out credit cards for working capital, working 80 hour weeks for years on end, before finally achieving success.

Now Mr. Government has informed me that ALL the money and security that I've earned and saved belongs to them, to disperse to the non-productive as they see fit. They devalue the currency to steal my savings. They commit securitization fraud and steal the equity from my real estate investments. They manipulate and "game" the stock market so if you make a rational play based on market fundamentals, you lose. Then, for the final straw, they reward their criminal cronies with bailouts and unearned largess.

And Leviathon wants me to create jobs?

Until the massive structural changes KD so eloquently demands are enacted, you'll get nothing from me ever again.


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Great Ticker, thanks.
Problem is Leviathan wants obediance not jobs.
GrumpyBear, +1 on your take above.

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Eloquent and spoken by a true American. Essentially anyone who would bother now has to say "why bother". Keep hammering away the point KD as it would appear that the sleeping masses are starting to awaken. Thank You

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karl, you said; look wha I bolded,
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Not because I might be wrong and fail - that's always a risk, and one that entrepreneurs accept as inherent in the game - but because government wishes to reserve the right to steal my capitalRIGHTS & EFFORTS any time they wish with their unconstitutional and outrageous mandates and demands.


I've not been posting the last few days, I noted here that I'd like too"start' My own business..
The State .Gov shot that **** right down, during a meeting with NCDMF recently.
Refusing a "hearing".
Wanting "outragious mandates & demands", that I cannot reproduce.
If successfull, My venture would produce, under Me, @ least a dozen + jobs, then people to process that product, Sales/etc & Taxes...
Be "benificial", in that We here in Wilm. Have freaking aqua-culultre in our tri-county Colleges plus Marine Biologly @ UNCW.
Benificial to our enviroment.
Yet, I can't get a simple 200.00 permit because of a Entry Process in Commerical Fisheries....
ARRRGHH!


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and yet, the "51% who pay no taxes" aren't booming with (legal) entrepreneurial endeavors.



the paper mache fortess that protects corporate interests is the real problem. everything from the real estate bubble/support to zoning laws to labor laws to over budgeted government agencies/king makers.


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Right on the MONEY!

A week without more than a 5-10 hour sleep was not unusual and working every weekend for years on end was accepted by a small group of us.

We created/funded hundreds and hundreds of jobs and helped hundreds get a start in IT and/or banking.

I went for 6 or 7 of those years with no vacation , only the odd day off with a pager stuck to my hip.


We had a core staff of 10 or so that worked together for 20-25 years.

We will not start anything again.

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Government is doing what it does best...destroying the competition for the large corporations. They do it here...they do it there...they do it everywhere.

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When the big company CEO screws up, he gets a golden parachute and retires to write books, living out his life with his LearJet in Monaco.

and becomes a CNBC contributor.
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Return to personal responsibility, common sense in the courts, and a loser pays attorneys fees rule would go a long way as well. Businesses spending thousands of dollars to avoid frivolous lawsuits is not good.
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well said. I just received a expensive piece of machinery from China... believe it or not I found it on ebay while looking for a used Made in America that does teh same thing. I was expecting to pay in the range of 4-6K for the used, new the American made would have cost me $12-15K. I got the NEW Chinese made on shipped and delivered for exactly $3,098.

Now you can rail on me for buying Chinese, that's fine, my business is to make money,not support unions...and the American made ones are all union made...

The ultimate shock however was when my customs broker called me in shock to report that a heavy piece of machinery used in a production setting was DUTY FREE from China. I expected to pay a hefty duty.

From a regulatory aspect they the fed .gov is encouraging me to buy from China
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You have to watch it with the fair tax. That throws businesses in with the general population and businesses lose their little known but effective constitutional protections. When the 16th amendment was passed, Congress had to do some politicing to get it passed. One of the things they promised is that the government would never tax anything except profits. It doesn't say that, but that's in the legislative history. In Glenshaw Glass, the big Supreme Court case that decided constitutionality of the 16th amendment, that language was cemented into law. That has been reaffirmed numerous times. Many people think the tax code says exactly what's deductible and what isn't. But code only offers the guidance of "ordinary and reasonable in the conduct of a business for profit." If you can build a case for that and know how to defend your position, it's bullet proof. I would think twice before I gave that up for the illusive promises of the Fair Tax. The arguments of Glenshaw Glass were reduced to tax code in section 162 about the same time. Much of the rest of the tax code is directed at working their way around "ordinary and necessary." Section 162 giveth and the rest of the tax code tries to take it back.

This concept of taxing only profits came into play a few years ago when the court of appeals (in DC I believe) decided that some specific kind of court award was not taxable because the award represented return of capital. I happened to agree, but academics raised a hue and cry saying that would tie Congress's hands. It was such a furor that the Court of Appeals actually reversed their findings and the Supreme Court let it stand. So much for the Constitution, but it's still all we've got.
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KD wrote..
I'm quite sure I'm not alone.

That, I can personally confirm.

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Robertt: The Fair Tax is an excise tax, and specifically involves repeal of the 16th.

Excise taxes (and imposts) are how the Federal Government funded itself for the first 100+ years of its existence. They're not only more than sufficient they're nicely transparent./

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Well Said Karl.

I worked (more like Studied) the internet business for years now. I wanted do something in enterainment (still plan to) but to see people get venture capital from stolen product and to become a multi million dollar company overnight just ****ing irks me to no end. They never worked NOT ONE SECOND in their lifes.

I worked in UPS. I worked in a Grandulation company where i had to carry 50 pounds of material, nearly got electricuted trying to clean the machines. Hell on earth. Didnt care. Made my money honestly. Rather be homeless again than take another handout. At least then I can find a place to stay.

And folks im going to make sort aside note. Karl makes a point to show that video about these three black females saying Obama is going to pay the morgage. I am reminded about another of my friends quotes he stated that the brotha's reach for the stars and while they fall hard people remember them, the sisters stay to the earth and are forgotten. (it was a bit milltient) but the point was taken even when I went to these inner city schools - the majority of the males are resless about making money. They dont care how they do it - they need to get it to get the girl, the car that sort of thing. I am in sort of a though that its the women (mostly who are in the FSA) are holding them back.

So when i see that video with those three females I just wonder if why its just a subsect of the community. Because most of the younger men dont say this.
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More regulation, more fees, more permits, more enviro, screw it, go to China and take your chances (or anywhere else non Western world.

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Bravo to everything. What I would add is that the problem of a vampiric government accretes over time. When people decline to start or expand businesses because the incremental improvement to their finances (to say nothing of their actual lifestyle) is so minimal, their kids can rightly compute that they'll be better off (or at least no worse off) to simply get a job with Leviathan or earn so little that paying taxes is not a concern. School teachers earn a decent living for 8.5 months' work, for example. They can sometimes get a defined benefits pension once they're in their 50's and they don't have to save any appreciable amount of money for their later years, thus ensuring that their offspring get the maximum "financial aid" when they enter the college ponzi. A bartender can sometimes enjoy almost the same lifestyle as a self-employed computer programmer. That may be "fair" in some people's eyes, but we can't have an entire society of bartenders & valet parking attendants.
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Robertt,

Since the fed gov has no general authority to legislate or tax within the union states (according to the supreme’s) as that would deprive the union states of their sovereignty and since the supreme court ruled that the “income tax” amendment did not in any way expand the fed govs powers of taxation you have to ask yourself what the true nature of the “tax” is.

Upon extensive examination you find that it is really not a tax at all but a voluntary contribution tied to a binding private law contract with the fed corporation. At a high level this can be verified by the fact that the income tax code (USC title 26 subtitle A) is NOT positive law and is not listed in the federal register (see USC title 1) which is a hard requirement for any fed law to have force and effect on either union states or its inhabitants. What’s more there is virtually no implementing regulations tied to title 26.

You and I “volunteered” into this socialist system via many avenues such as applying for SS, filing out voluntary withholding agreements, “tax” returns…….

You will also find that the state income tax is really federal in nature. The state govs simply get a kickback from extorted fed revenues.

Most of the taxation we pay is a HUGE scam and is 100% provable by looking at the law, statutory fed codes and supreme court rulings over the last 100 years.

I wish Karl would use his considerable intelligence to research this subject and prove it to himself but thus far he has continued to comment on this subject laboring under many falsities.
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Massively great ticker Karl!
My thoughts exactly.

I have been fortunate enough to shepherd the same small business through 28 years of ups and downs. We have provided employment for up to seven but have been forced to downsize to three. The primary culprit in our downsizing has been the loss of domestic manufacturing through unfair trade agreements.

Have you considered trying to get some of your tickers published on the op-ed pages of newspapers? I don't know how that works but it might be a fitting venue for your instructive editorials.


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Curly: Plenty of people in prison for running that line of crap in various venues.

I decline to allow it to continue here, and potentially watch people on the forum wind up in the clink. Goodbye.

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I'd like to hire 2 people but why would I in this environment. So discouraging.

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